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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:24 PM   #1
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Amazon Looking to Build 2nd HQ in North America

Change.org petition to have local leaders bring it to the Tampa Bay area.

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I just saw a spot on CNBC about Amazon looking for a 2nd HQs location. The "insider" mentioned inexpensive land, ample room for multiple skyscrapers, and tax incentives as criteria. Any chance Water Street could attract a company like Amazon?

Talk about a game changer. One can dream...

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Old September 7th, 2017, 07:10 PM   #2
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I just saw a spot on CNBC about Amazon looking for a 2nd HQs location. The "insider" mentioned inexpensive land, ample room for multiple skyscrapers, and tax incentives as criteria. Any chance Water Street could attract a company like Amazon?

Talk about a game changer. One can dream...
1) Workforce will be the major driver of this decision and we are far behind Austin, DC, Toronto, etc the second driver will be incentives and the legislature just gutted that (whether it's a good idea or not the Midwest is spending like crazy on these). So we are not even close to the top on things like this. Heck they list transit as a key criteria.

2) Not even Water Street has enough office space for them. It'd have to include the Port proposal, THEA, etc and the Ardent Mills site (among others) to actually make it work. Though I am sure everyone but the flour makers would be willing.

3) However, the advantage is no Downtown in a mid-sized affordable city has this clear of a land, tax breaks possible, etc. It would be worth putting all $300+ million of the CRA into this IMHO.

That said a month turnaround read like a fishing expedition to see if they can get FoxConn like $ or they already know where they want.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 07:36 PM   #3
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Tampa should be on the short list according to this article.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/her...ers-2017-09-07
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1) Workforce will be the major driver of this decision and we are far behind Austin, DC, Toronto, etc the second driver will be incentives and the legislature just gutted that (whether it's a good idea or not the Midwest is spending like crazy on these). So we are not even close to the top on things like this. Heck they list transit as a key criteria.

2) Not even Water Street has enough office space for them. It'd have to include the Port proposal, THEA, etc and the Ardent Mills site (among others) to actually make it work. Though I am sure everyone but the flour makers would be willing.

3) However, the advantage is no Downtown in a mid-sized affordable city has this clear of a land, tax breaks possible, etc. It would be worth putting all $300+ million of the CRA into this IMHO.

That said a month turnaround read like a fishing expedition to see if they can get FoxConn like $ or they already know where they want.
I think they are planning on building their own campus, although they could potentially work with Vinik and expand the planned Water Street area.
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Vinik's project is too small for 50K jobs but our post on URBN just now speculates Tampa Park Apartments and/or the Port's redevelopment plan could work.
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This would be damn near equivalent to hosting the Superbowl every year for the next 20 years or so in my opinion. However, as awesome as this would be for the entire Tampa Bay region or even Central Florida for that matter, I believe a second HQ location somewhere in the Northeast corridor would be more than likely be an ideal move for the company, as it would be located near the region's major population centers of D.C. Philly, NY, and Boston.
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This would be damn near equivalent to hosting the Superbowl every year for the next 20 years or so in my opinion. However, as awesome as this would be for the entire Tampa Bay region or even Central Florida for that matter, I believe a second HQ location somewhere in the Northeast corridor would be more than likely be an ideal move for the company, as it would be located near the region's major population centers of D.C. Philly, NY, and Boston.
That's what real economic development looks like.
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Vinik's project is too small for 50K jobs but our post on URBN just now speculates Tampa Park Apartments and/or the Port's redevelopment plan could work.
Water Street already plans to get 23K jobs in there, so I sure it's not too small. Just not in the current plans.
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Petition to bring it here:

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Old September 7th, 2017, 09:33 PM   #10
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Water Street already plans to get 23K jobs in there, so I sure it's not too small. Just not in the current plans.
I don't think that Water Street gets 23K jobs. Asfaik 23k will be the number of daily visitors of the the district, including workers, students, faculty and people visiting.
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Grasping at straws here,but I wonder if having Bill Gates involved is a plus. Seattle and Tech connection
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Amazon is seeking a "development-oriented" market, site consultant John Boyd Jr. said.

"Atlanta should be the on the short list,” Boyd said. “Any competent site search for headquarters will look at Atlanta.”

Other contenders include Tampa and the Miami area, Boyd said, citing Tampa's new waterfront development and Miami's Brightline project.
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Grasping at straws here,but I wonder if having Bill Gates involved is a plus. Seattle and Tech connection
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It may be something they have already discussed.
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I think there are a few cities who are the front runners such as Boston, Austin, and Atlanta, but I feel Tampa could make a good pitch, especially if Vinik gets involved (not necessarily including Amazon into Water street, more just to pitch what Tampa has to offer).
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Vinik's project is too small for 50K jobs but our post on URBN just now speculates Tampa Park Apartments and/or the Port's redevelopment plan could work.
The port is interesting to me, because it would be a blank canvas for amazon to build a campus as they wanted, but also could make a deal with the port itself becoming a major recieving center; a major two-for-one.

I know it's a long shot, but Water Street, an Amazon hq at the port, and a new Rays stadium would radically transform the downtown!
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The port is interesting to me, because it would be a blank canvas for amazon to build a campus as they wanted, but also could make a deal with the port itself becoming a major recieving center; a major two-for-one.

I know it's a long shot, but Water Street, an Amazon hq at the port, and a new Rays stadium would radically transform the downtown!
Problem with the Port, you leave hundreds of millions in local incentives (downtown CRA) off the table.
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Amazon and Tampa Water Street are a match made in heaven. They could of have there way with the designs of some of the office portion of the huge project.

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Amazon and Tampa Water Street are a match made in heaven. They could of have there way with the designs of some of the office portion of the huge project.

Maybe even go taller plus if needed build on the Port where those proposed 2 -- 75 story buildings are to go up.

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Tampa Austin to me are your top 2 choices. You could even name the new Rays stadium. Amazon Field or Amazon Paaark.
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