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Old June 20th, 2017, 12:55 AM   #661
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I believe to tick off the 3 year planning period then the foundations need to be built.
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Old June 20th, 2017, 09:51 AM   #662
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Bingo. Although they need to do considerable works to keep the permission alive.
It's generally perceived as installation of foundations isn't it? Even then there have been cases where work has stopped and planning has lapsed and there is the factor of warranty of older foundations that have been exposed to the weather for years
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Old June 20th, 2017, 09:53 PM   #663
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Yes this is all correct. I did say i was being cynical. There are various ways to install foundations. and preserve them though.
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Old June 28th, 2017, 07:57 PM   #664
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Still no news then? I just cannot honestly see this going up.
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Old June 28th, 2017, 08:40 PM   #665
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Still no news then? I just cannot honestly see this going up.
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Old June 28th, 2017, 11:22 PM   #666
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Still no news then? I just cannot honestly see this going up.


Tony, wasn't it you that said some people on here are so negative!!
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Old June 29th, 2017, 09:39 AM   #667
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Tony, wasn't it you that said some people on here are so negative!!

I think we all need a bit of leeway on this one, when it comes to the pessimism. We've been promised a start on this for years, On January 9th the Birmingham Post posted an article "reassuring us" that construction WOULD finally start this spring, John Clancy is also qouted in the article (page 29 of this thread) saying it was great that this project was finally underway. Our joint pessimism IS founded I think on this one!
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Old June 29th, 2017, 10:09 AM   #668
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I think we all need a bit of leeway on this one, when it comes to the pessimism. We've been promised a start on this for years, On January 9th the Birmingham Post posted an article "reassuring us" that construction WOULD finally start this spring, John Clancy is also qouted in the article (page 29 of this thread) saying it was great that this project was finally underway. Our joint pessimism IS founded I think on this one!
Eaxtly, differencebetween between being negative and realistic. Longer the silence the less likely it goes up, that is from years of watching these developments.I'm assuming now we will at least see a redesign and scaled down unless a bigger developer takes over, it's slipping down the runngs of the ladder on importance of being built, it's a lucrative site and can probably hold its value a great deal. BCC really should be shit hot on this one and make sure the developer do all they can to make it look attractive in the mean time as it'll effect surrounding businesses, it's an eyesore.
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Old June 29th, 2017, 06:59 PM   #669
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BCC really should be shit hot on this one and make sure the developer do all they can to make it look attractive in the mean time as it'll effect surrounding businesses, it's an eyesore.
They have no power to do this though. They could tell them to clean the site up but they cannot force you to invest in the site so it looks nice in the short term.
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Old July 25th, 2017, 08:37 PM   #670
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Old July 25th, 2017, 09:36 PM   #671
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Yes, the digger was active a couple days ago, didn't want to bump the thread in false hope though.
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Old July 25th, 2017, 09:54 PM   #672
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Yes, the digger was active a couple days ago, didn't want to bump the thread in false hope though.
Dont be afraid to post stuff Reiss, the Birmingham forum is hardly booming with news at the minuite.

Firstly we need to see demolition on this site before getting our hopes up, however this is movement so therefore news.
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The digger is still visible from Park Street when I've been on a bus going past the site. Not sure what they are doing inside though.
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Old July 26th, 2017, 12:29 AM   #674
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The digger is still visible from Park Street when I've been on a bus going past the site. Not sure what they are doing inside though.
They did say there was going to be an intensive archaeological dig running with the demolition and clearing of the site. Assuming that is the case, that would explain the slow progress.
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They did say there was going to be an intensive archaeological dig running with the demolition and clearing of the site. Assuming that is the case, that would explain the slow progress.
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Old July 26th, 2017, 12:52 AM   #676
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Interesting. Of out of interest, what sort of archaeological discoveries are they anticipating? I know the plot is next to the church but what is the history of this specific plot?
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Old July 26th, 2017, 09:40 AM   #677
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Interesting. Of out of interest, what sort of archaeological discoveries are they anticipating? I know the plot is next to the church but what is the history of this specific plot?

There is lots of history apparently. Not really into this kinda stuff though.

However when they were building the new bullring, im pretty sure things were found when they did a similar exercise.
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Old July 26th, 2017, 10:00 AM   #678
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It's built along the foundations of medieval 'terraces' called Burnages or something similar.

It was where things were sold, traded, made, all the way back to feudal times and the founding of Birmingham, and has been relative untouched before, so probably has a lot of archeological crap in it.
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Old July 26th, 2017, 10:45 AM   #679
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If they start doing archaeological diggings then I would suggest that is a sure fire indication that the tower will go ahead. Those archaeological digs are blimming expensive and is billed to the developer so they would not undertake them unless things are going forward.
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Old July 26th, 2017, 11:06 AM   #680
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Interesting. Of out of interest, what sort of archaeological discoveries are they anticipating? I know the plot is next to the church but what is the history of this specific plot?
This is the centre of the medieval town, and the ground has not been disturbed since the mid-19th century, so who knows? You can confidently predict bits of pottery, but otherwise it's anybody's guess.
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