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Old June 22nd, 2013, 04:22 PM   #141
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The whole existance of the trains and why they are still in such large use in Europe today is the fact, that they bring you from A to B (which are under 800km apart) in short time, very comfortably, cheaper, safer and more economically than an airplane and that means the high speed rail systems work if you have train stations in the business centres of the cities, or at least direct connections with a lot of other trains to the centre. Having Norman Foster (with all of the respect to the man) around to make you rail terminals means you are getting airports with all of their weaknesses (a lot of time on the check ins, a lot of waiting, a lot of driving to the airport/railport, then boarding on a train, that is much slower than a plane, and lets be reasonable, chinese highspeed lines are far from being safer than planes.
So either China really has way tooo much money, their leaders want to have trains to play with and are not really that smart, or there must be something behind these enourmous stations (maybe the Chinese are building space ships?).
Chinese stations are vast due to the festivals - every lunar new year (Spring festival) or equinox (Autumn festival) the country sees the largest movements of humans in history, twice a year as 3-400 million mostly migrant workers move across the country to their family home for the holiday.
It's a highly organised, fine cut operation that calls the army in, yet still suffers just from the sheer numbers.

This is the scene at every station as millions descend on the main lines











At times like this one needs to get a (free) ticket to even approach the train station:




holding areas outside the stations as theyre too small (bear in mind these are ticket holders - all journeys needing to be booked beforehand at travel agents or online):








In 2008 record blizzards cancelled numerous trains - resulting in catastrophe across the country, many had to camp overnight for days and crowds swelled well over capacity:







This is a phenomenon fueled by the migrant population following China's economic rise since the 1990s, estimated at 300 million and growing by over 17 million each year. This is why the country is rebuilding its main train stations to handle the ever-growing crowds.
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 04:54 PM   #142
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I believe that it actually reduces the threat a bit. Since everybody with bags must scan them no matter how small or big it is. I have seen people with bottles that have contained explosive chemicals have denied bringing them onto the train. Eventhough it's hard to prevent terrorism to 100%, by doing an easy thing like to check what passengers bring onto the trains is worth it since we are talking about over thousands of lifes here, It feels a bit safer than having no checking at all.
Yep, the security scans also prevent people from transporting fireworks, especially during the festivals. The warning images in posters of what happens when they go off in a crowded carriage don't pull the punches. The govt went so far as banning all New Year fireworks in the early noughties. A new ban is also being considered due to the adverse extra pollution.
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 10:25 PM   #143
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In Europe most rail terminals were originally build outside the city centres as well. The cities then grew and engulfed the stations.
Yes, remember that in the 19th century, many cities still had walls around
them, which were still controlled by the military. Most of the time, military
autorities would not allow railway companies to punch new doors through
those walls to let trains pass, so stations had to be built outside wall
boundaries. But with the rapid expansion that affected all cities in the 19th
century, new boroughs were quickly built outside the walls too, and the walls
themselves disappeared with the weapons evolution.
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Old June 24th, 2013, 09:12 PM   #144
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The govt went so far as banning all New Year fireworks in the early noughties.
You surely mean naughties

My point about security-scans still stands. It gives you false feeling of safety. But we may have this discussion in another thread.
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Old June 24th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #145
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You surely mean naughties

My point about security-scans still stands. It gives you false feeling of safety. But we may have this discussion in another thread.
I agree
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Old July 17th, 2013, 01:21 PM   #146
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The old Hejaz railway though the Ottoman empire has some very fine station buildings. Unfortunly most of them are either ruined or not in active service.

What was to become the terminal station in Medina, Saudi Arabia is quite impressive. In the next few years a high-speed link between Medina and Mecca will be complete, unfortunately it won't use the old station.

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Old Railway Station-Madinah by alsay, on Flickr

Another great station is the Hejaz station in Damascus. However the tracks was removed a few years ago and it was destined to become a shopping mall (!!!). Of course the civil war has halted further development.

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Hejaz Railway Station - Damascus (1) by golden road, on Flickr
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Old August 9th, 2013, 11:48 PM   #147
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Just stumbled across this station in Bobo-Dioulasso, the second largest city of Burkina Faso. And yes, there's actual trains going there.

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Neo-Sudanic/ French Colonial Architecture, Train Station, Bobo-Dioulasso, Burkina Faso, West Africa by Bencito the Traveller, on Flickr
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Old August 11th, 2013, 10:44 AM   #148
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The first station in Milan. Built in 1840, it appeared as a neoclassical villa. It was very unpractical for its use, so it was closed after 10 years of service.



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