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Old January 30th, 2011, 09:25 PM   #241
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Discussion 2. In reply to this statement

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Stats eh !! Hull Citys prem attendances cant be 25404 ie full capacity purely due to segregation...there have been dozens and dozens of sell outs..some games could have sold out twice over such was the demand...Made me think it will be nice to get at least the east tier asap..will help with concerts and probably any future world cup bid too.
I cannot believe the lower attendances are down to segregation alone, and if that is the case 5000 empty seats is a bit over the top.
If indeed it is the actual building that limits segregation, instead of expansion, spend money sorting the north stand, so segregation does not mean an average of 5000 empty seats a game.

I hope that removing all the crap regarding empty spaces at bars, people in pubs etc makes this all clear.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 10:08 AM   #242
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away from the silly egg chasing argument:

http://www.whathouse.co.uk/news/Hull...re-village-708
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Old January 31st, 2011, 01:37 PM   #243
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RE segregation: It's due to health and safety laws and where the inner gates are located in the concourse. The gates don't line up with the exit's, meaning that 'x' amount of home supports leaving through the exit where the segregation area is, would mean despite sitting in the home section, their exit would be into the away section.

It's also due to people not being allowed 'x' amount of metre's away from an emergency exit etc...


RE homes at the KC - where would they go?
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Old January 31st, 2011, 03:47 PM   #244
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RE homes at the KC - where would they go?
walton street ? - you know it makes sense!
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Old January 31st, 2011, 11:18 PM   #245
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RE segregation: It's due to health and safety laws and where the inner gates are located in the concourse. The gates don't line up with the exit's, meaning that 'x' amount of home supports leaving through the exit where the segregation area is, would mean despite sitting in the home section, their exit would be into the away section.

It's also due to people not being allowed 'x' amount of metre's away from an emergency exit etc...


RE homes at the KC - where would they go?
RE segregation- Wouldnt a bit of money and building work sort this out? A lot of empty seats could be filled. You don't see this much waste at most premiership grounds.

Are they looking at creating some kind of stamford bridge? with homes at the kc.
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Old February 1st, 2011, 10:18 AM   #246
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Just why is it every time you have been thinking you come out with nonsense! are you related to Neil Warnock? roflmao
No such FA rule..the capacity differs on the category of game...segregation areas are very large...


FA rules on away fan allocation (EPL but same for Championship)

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Unless otherwise agreed by the Board or between the Clubs, each Home Club shall make available to its Visiting Club:

7.1 3,000 tickets or, if the capacity of the Home Club’s ground is less than 30,000, such number of tickets as is equal to 10 per cent. of its ground capacity; and, whether or not that allocation is taken up,

7.2 tickets for a minimum of 10 per cent. of the Home Club’s disabled spectator accommodation.

http://www.premierleague.com/staticF...~139386,00.pdf

These clubs back up the rule.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/...topic=240676.0

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A64494408

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A64494408
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Old February 3rd, 2011, 01:00 AM   #247
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FA rules on away fan allocation (EPL but same for Championship)

7.
Unless otherwise agreed by the Board or between the Clubs, each Home Club shall make available to its Visiting Club:

7.1 3,000 tickets or, if the capacity of the Home Club’s ground is less than 30,000, such number of tickets as is equal to 10 per cent. of its ground capacity; and, whether or not that allocation is taken up,

7.2 tickets for a minimum of 10 per cent. of the Home Club’s disabled spectator accommodation.

http://www.premierleague.com/staticF...~139386,00.pdf

These clubs back up the rule.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/...topic=240676.0

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A64494408

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A64494408
No those regulations are strictly Premier League only...in the Football League the general rule is 2000 seats but can be anything you agree with the FL executive in writing...City are currently going through this process to reduce the away following to a wedge of fans in the corner,like at Leeds who dont adhere to any rule. In fact Adam Pearson has today said last night was the last time the away fans are allocated the whole north stand, which in effect reduced the amount of tickets available for home fans. I am interested to see what building works take place to isolate aways securely in the corner possibly north east.
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Old February 3rd, 2011, 04:52 PM   #248
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24,110 I think the attendance was on Tuesday night, despite being a 'sell-out' I wondered why, despite Leeds having the full North stand, then saw this from Adam Pearson:

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Unfortunately tonight Leeds will have the entire North Stand and this has to be the last time that happens if at all possible. We get tucked away in the corner with a couple of thousand tickets at Bellend Road (-Ed) and it can't be right that we have to give the whole stand to Leeds when they come to the KC. They are entitled to 10% under Football League rules however because of segregation requirements we can't get Hull City fans in that end as well, so we have had to give the whole stand to Leeds, although the capacity is cut due to the visiting supporters having a tendency to stand all game.

Next season we are, if at all possible, going to attempt to relocate away supporters for every game so that we can have a North Stand full of
season ticket holding Hull City supporters. We feel sure this will improve the atmosphere at the KC and give the home supporters their right to be behind both goals with decent facilities below. Obviously there are health and safety issues to overcome but where there's a will there’s a way and it’s time to turn the KC into a ground that is laid out to benefit our team and our supporters.
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I heard something about this, many grounds have already done this, putting away fans in a corner makes much more sense as many away supporters don't realy bring alot of fans, also on Tuesday night I can't believe how poor the atmosphere was hopfully this will improve it.
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Where was you sat? I was in E2 and the atmosphere was great, nobody stopped singing and when Fryatt scored, everyone went mental and my glasses went flying and broke.
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South east. I'm a Leeds fan but unfortunately couldn't get tickets for the north stand
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Old February 4th, 2011, 09:08 AM   #252
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I'm a Leeds fan
Boo hiss
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Old February 4th, 2011, 09:15 AM   #253
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Haha how did I know that was coming
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Old February 4th, 2011, 09:32 AM   #254
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Haha how did I know that was coming
There is still time to switch from the darkside.
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Boo. Plastic.
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Old February 4th, 2011, 03:54 PM   #256
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Haha how did I know that was coming
That's what you call coming out of the closet! There must be some counselling you can get for that kind of thing.
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Old February 4th, 2011, 04:49 PM   #257
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Na I'm a proud Leeds fan have been since the min I was born, I'd say this is the worst place to announce it isn't it?
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Old February 4th, 2011, 11:13 PM   #258
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Old February 5th, 2011, 01:52 AM   #259
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South east. I'm a Leeds fan but unfortunately couldn't get tickets for the north stand
Hull and proud... yet support Leeds, a wessie team. *tutut*
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I want hull to do well as it is my city and I'm proud to live here but I obviously want Leeds to do better
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