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Old November 22nd, 2009, 09:34 AM   #1
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NEW YORK | 8 Stone Street | 404ft | 123m | 43 fl | Com







"Say what you want about Sam Chang," a developer once told us, in reference to the prolific hotel developer who now finds himself in a financial pickle. "But even when he messes up deals or properties, he just sells them and still makes money." And while the story of 8 Stone Street in the Financial District doesn't appear to be a Chang mess-up, he sure did make money! The property (a former parking lot, as seen in this 2005 photo from PropertyShark), was scheduled to become a 42-story Doubletree hotel developed by Chang's McSam Hotel Group. But now that Chang is a little cash-strapped, he's sold off the land to a Rhode Island hotel developer called Magna Hospitality Group, The Real Deal reports. The deal closed yesterday for $60 million. Sam Chang bought the property in January 2007 for $17 million. That's a $43 million flip for a chunk of FiDi pavement. Sam Chang, we begrudgingly salute you.

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Old November 22nd, 2009, 09:35 AM   #2
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 01:32 PM   #3
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Bad render. Nice update.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 06:49 PM   #4
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Don't like the design. Just another filler for NYC
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 09:23 PM   #5
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 12:54 AM   #6
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Yea i know - Just a disappointing design when you first open up the thread; im glad they are building it, just not for it's architectural worth
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 01:51 AM   #7
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I don't know. It doesn't have to be so depressing looking. This one really disappoints me.

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Not really -- If they built a fancy design, they couldn't charge $200-$250/night for rooms, which is a massive bargain by NYC standards. The high room rates, and the roughly 20% room tax makes, makes NY prohibitively expensive for most travelers. The city needs simple hotels like these.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 05:12 AM   #8
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is very thin
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 05:15 AM   #9
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but that does not make a bit dangerous to have cheap materials
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 05:18 AM   #10
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a ok, sorry
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 09:16 AM   #11
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Not structurally cheap. Just cheap looking.

A Toyota Yaris performs the same job as a Bentley. It just looks extremely plain and cheap.
That is total nonsense. With the right designers eye you can create a building that isn't cheap looking, and still easy on the budget. Architecture isn't a 1:1 with money.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 07:27 PM   #12
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this is crap. Plain and simple. McSam and Hackman are a total disgrace to architecture and the city of New York in particular.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 07:35 PM   #13
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Not structurally cheap. Just cheap looking.

A Toyota Yaris performs the same job as a Bentley. It just looks extremely plain and cheap.
I think you compare it with the wrong thing here. Talking about performance, there is a huge difference. I bet a Bentley is faster than a toyota yaris. So I bet the inside and outside won't perform the same as for example a hilton or trump hotel.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 12:53 AM   #14
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Your coments are absurd. Construction costs in NY are astronomical. In order to build a hotel that provides rooms at less than $300/ night, a cheap design is essential.
A cheap design does NOT, I repeat NOT equal a boring or crappy design. For the same amount of money you can do great, stunning things if you're a designer who thinks outside the box.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 03:44 AM   #15
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Oh ****. What is it, 1975? I thought NY was past this shit.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 04:19 AM   #16
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looks something like Gene Kaufman would design
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Old May 4th, 2010, 05:59 AM   #17
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yeah, would be nice. i think this tower has already T/O. but we need conformation though.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 09:36 PM   #19
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this building is cool its unique and just adds to new york
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