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Old February 13th, 2014, 08:27 PM   #221
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Plans are to increase speeds up to 160 km/h, but anything faster than that wouldn't make much sense, since both, Vienna Hbf and Breclav, operate a clock-face schedule.
Břeclav Brno could be upgraded to 200 km/h at quite low costs. ETCS 2 is being implemented there already anyway.

Basically, it would need getting rid of the level crossings, other than that the parameters are for 200 km/h. And it would require change of the law as well.

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Old February 13th, 2014, 09:58 PM   #222
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Also IMO, there is no need for an extra train to Budapest, since it should be no problem at all for passangers to switch trains in Vienna. All that has to be done is make sure Budapest and Graz RJs fit in the clock-face schedule at Vienna Hbf. This connection would be just as fast with no additional costs.

The RJs from Praha and from Budapest will be integrated into the hub-system at Vienna.
However, there will be two hubs: at minute 00 and at minute 30.
Praha - Wien - Graz will be at the 00-hub (as this fits to the current timetable Praha - Breclav and Wien - Graz), whereas the Budapest-Munich-line will be at the 30-hub.

So there will be a waiting time of >30minutes for passengers travelling Budapest - Wien - Praha.

In the long term it might be changed, once travel time Praha - Wien is reduced to under 4 hrs. Then the train will leave Praha at a 30-hub and arrive to Vienna also at the 30-hub.
With a travel time of 2,5 hrs between Wien and Budapest this would give 6,5 hrs travel time Praha - Budapest via Vienna.


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Old February 14th, 2014, 04:59 AM   #223
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Yes

The Brno - Wien travel times are now at 1 hour 40 minutes for some 150 km distance (to Simmering). This could become a one hour relation if the track would be upgraded.

Praha - Brno takes some 2 hours 40 minutes.
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Old February 14th, 2014, 06:50 AM   #224
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That's a trip I can't wait to make: quick rail transport between the grand old cities of Eastern Europe.
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Old February 14th, 2014, 09:01 AM   #225
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The RJs from Praha and from Budapest will be integrated into the hub-system at Vienna.
However, there will be two hubs: at minute 00 and at minute 30.
Praha - Wien - Graz will be at the 00-hub (as this fits to the current timetable Praha - Breclav and Wien - Graz), whereas the Budapest-Munich-line will be at the 30-hub.
That seems to be a bit unlogical. With two "pulses", one should put all hourly (or two hourly) services on the same pulse, and use the second pulse only for services that run half hourly.


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So there will be a waiting time of >30minutes for passengers travelling Budapest - Wien - Praha.

In the long term it might be changed, once travel time Praha - Wien is reduced to under 4 hrs. Then the train will leave Praha at a 30-hub and arrive to Vienna also at the 30-hub.
With a travel time of 2,5 hrs between Wien and Budapest this would give 6,5 hrs travel time Praha - Budapest via Vienna.
Currently Praha - Budapest is 7 hours via Bratislava. Any speed-ups between Praha and Breclav will speed up these trains as well. I would think that Praha - Budapest via Wien would not need to be a priority.
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Old February 15th, 2014, 12:59 AM   #226
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That seems to be a bit unlogical. With two "pulses", one should put all hourly (or two hourly) services on the same pulse, and use the second pulse only for services that run half hourly.
Thats not always possible. The east-west-RJ-line Munich-Salzburg-Vienna-Budapest is fixed by the 00-hub at Salzburg and the 30-hub in Zurich.
The north-south-line Praha-Wien-Graz is fixed by the 30-hub Praha and the connection from/to Berlin.

It's just impossible to shift one of this lines by 30 minutes just to optimize connections in Vienna, because this will cause problems otherwhere.
Also Praha - Vienna - Budapest isn't the most important connection, as there is also a direct Praha-Budapest service via Bratislava.

And south of Vienna the hourly RJ Vienna-Graz (every 2nd will come from Praha from dec 2014) has a 30-30-60-pattern with the 2-hourly Wien-Villach line, so in any case one of those two lines (Villach or Graz) would be at the "wrong" hub in Vienna.

Hub system Vienna from 2015:
30: RJ Budapest-Wien-München/Zürich, Wien-Villach
00: RJ Praha-Wien-Graz-Graz, IC Wien-Salzburg, EC Warszawa-Wien (2 daily)
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Old February 15th, 2014, 09:04 PM   #227
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Would anyone be interested in a Praha-Budapest connection via Vienna, when there is the one via Bratislava?

And I have a question regarding this map: http://www.vysokorychlostni-zeleznic...p-1024x672.jpg

There is a dotted line from Brno to Vienna, which seems like a an entirely new track, linking both cities more directly than the existing one. It appears to be shown as long term open (until 2030). I have never heard of that, is that just some wild wishful thinking or is there anything concrete going on in this direction? Judging how incapable the ÖBB seems to be to upgrade the Marchelfder Ast to something that is not a shame, I don't think this will ever happen in the foreseeable future. ...
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Old February 16th, 2014, 02:40 AM   #228
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Would anyone be interested in a Praha-Budapest connection via Vienna, when there is the one via Bratislava?
It's not that important, but it would be interesting to enable hourly travel options (every 2 hrs direct, every 2 hrs via Vienna).


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And I have a question regarding this map: http://www.vysokorychlostni-zeleznic...p-1024x672.jpg
There is a dotted line from Brno to Vienna, which seems like a an entirely new track, linking both cities more directly than the existing one. It appears to be shown as long term open (until 2030). I have never heard of that, is that just some wild wishful thinking or is there anything concrete going on in this direction?
That's just wishful thinking of someone, but nothing more.

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Judging how incapable the ÖBB seems to be to upgrade the Marchelfder Ast to something that is not a shame,
The current state is more a shame for Austrian transport politics than for ÖBB. If there is no political will, then no money is give to ÖBB to upgrade the infrastructure....
Local politicians (in the Lower Austria province) are unfortunately more interested in a 2nd highway connection between Vienna and Bratislava, than in a modernized rauilway...
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Old February 16th, 2014, 10:02 PM   #229
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The current state is more a shame for Austrian transport politics than for ÖBB. If there is no political will, then no money is give to ÖBB to upgrade the infrastructure....
Local politicians (in the Lower Austria province) are unfortunately more interested in a 2nd highway connection between Vienna and Bratislava, than in a modernized rauilway...
Well, yes of course. Its really a shame, especially as this slight adaptation to electrified double track hardly can be an unaffordable thing.
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Old February 20th, 2014, 05:30 AM   #230
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Generally I'd prefer to have operations and infrastructure completely separated as well, but the vertical integration is not the reason why HKX is struggeling. It probably has to do with the fact that they have a CEO with no experience at all, in regard to railway operations.
We had it about DB letting CD on the German tracks between Dresden and Berlin.

Its just another forum, but full of insiders.
http://www.k-report.net/discus/messa...tml?1391289836

It seems that CD tried to operate that relation on their own (Praha - Berlin - Hamburg) but DB Netz did not allow them due to "low capacity" of the tracks.

Further on, when CD wanted to cooperate with DB with their Railjets, the DB would not sign anything longer than one year contracts while CD needed 10 year contract.

DB also refused CD sending a Pendolino train on Praha - Dresden - Frankfurt.


The EU policy on the railways allows the holding structure of the DB also with the new packet since 2009 and it is clear that it was written in Berlin
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Old March 11th, 2014, 11:16 AM   #231
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Electric locomotive class 242, Track No.183, Plzeň - Klatovy:
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Diesel locomotive class 754, Track No.240, Brno-Jihlava:
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Old April 2nd, 2014, 01:43 PM   #233
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Funny. The front of the class 754 resembles diving goggles, just like the NMBS class MS86. I never understood this design, because you would expect that the space under the windows is used for some kind of crash structure.
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Old April 28th, 2014, 09:15 PM   #234
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First complete CD-RJ set arrived in CZ for test runs:




Source: http://www.k-report.net/ukazobrazek....pref=28/244894

Some good looking train that is.
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Is it push-pull? Where it will run?
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Old April 29th, 2014, 10:59 PM   #236
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Is it push-pull? Where it will run?
Yes, it is push-pull. It will operate on line Prague - Brno - Vienna - Graz.
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Old April 30th, 2014, 03:25 AM   #237
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Old April 30th, 2014, 12:13 PM   #238
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What about the Pendolino trains that run Prague - Vienna currently?
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First complete CD-RJ set arrived in CZ for test runs:
Some good looking train that is.
Good looking indeed. I see they are using the Taurus ES64U4. Are these new or used? I ask this because production of that locomotive was stopped because it couldn't meet the newest TSI safety requirements.
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Good looking indeed. I see they are using the Taurus ES64U4. Are these new or used? I ask this because production of that locomotive was stopped because it couldn't meet the newest TSI safety requirements.
This is Austrian (OeBB) Taurus only with ČD livery.

If you look carefully you can see Austrian registration on the side of the locomotive:
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