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Old April 17th, 2016, 05:28 PM   #461
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The official reasons were direct EMU trains from Olomouc which now end in Šumperk and in winter their connection to ski resort in Kouty.

But of course this wouldn't be possible without EU funds and IMHO the profitability of running EMUs with large capacity on this line isn't possible. It was a short sighted decision and we will see in the future how much money from Olomouc region budget it will cost.
Anyway, this line, unlike majority of railway lines in Czechia, doesn't belong to the state company SŽDC but is a property of local municipalities. It's interesting how these locals are able to get money from the EU even for such projects and meanwhile much busier state-owned lines are in poor condition. Maybe this case could be a role model.


Also the line runs through 5 municipalities with total population of ca 11,000.
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Old April 29th, 2016, 11:33 PM   #462
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The minister of economy of the German state Sachsen and Czech minister of transportation agreed to connect Prague and Dresden with a high speed railway before 2030. The project counts with 26,5 km long base tunnel under Krušné Hory on the Czech German border. The track should be build for 230 and 350 km maximum speed and should make the route doable in one hour.
http://domaci.ihned.cz/c1-65272450-z...va-v-roce-2030

Germany should approve the project before the end of 2016 according to the German minister.

The capacity of the current railtrack in the Labe valley on both the German and Czech side is not sufficient enough already.

current and planned tracks


It seems that there is more and more activity going on with this project. It would be great if they really pulled it off.
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Old May 24th, 2016, 10:19 AM   #464
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An landslide in Germany, on the CZ/DE border blocked the Prague Dresden line.

http://zpravy.idnes.cz/sesuv-pudy-sc...343_domaci_neh
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Old May 24th, 2016, 10:36 PM   #465
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Double tracking and speed increase up to 160 km/h in between Stéblová and Opatovice nad Labem stations on the line 031
author: Zbyněk Zlinský source: http://www.vlaky.net/servis/sprava.asp?lang=1&id=6038


author: Vladimír Fišar source: http://www.vladanfoto.cz/clanky-steb...em-3.cast.html

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Old June 13th, 2016, 09:11 PM   #467
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Seems (seen on youtube) the first Ejpovice tunnel tube (Prague - Plzen line) Breackthrouth has just happened ! Congratulations !!
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Old June 14th, 2016, 12:12 AM   #468
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Seems (seen on youtube) the first Ejpovice tunnel tube (Prague - Plzen line) Breackthrouth has just happened ! Congratulations !!
Yes, the south tube is through. The tunnel will be 4.1 km long and thus the longest railway tunnel in the CZ. It is quite interesting to see the shield moving from above as the break through happened sort of two times.



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Sorry for that stupid question but I haven't read this whole thread and couldn't find anything online. Is the high speed track the only concrete truly high speed rail project or are there already other concrete projects for connecting other cities? As a Viennese I'd be interested in anything benefitting the route Vienna-Prague of course, but also along the corridor from Linz to Prague or Vienna to Ostrava (on the way to Krakow)?

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So basically there are no longer tunnels at all in the Czech Republic? Interesting.
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Sorry for that stupid question but I haven't read this whole thread and couldn't find anything online. Is the high speed track the only concrete truly high speed rail project or are there already other concrete projects for connecting other cities?
What is that "high speed track" you talk about? The furthest we got in planning a HSR network is setting up reserves for proposed corridors in regions. However the same applies eg. for the waterway corridor Danube-Elbe. There is really not much chance of building an actual 250+ HSR in near future.



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So basically there are no longer tunnels at all in the Czech Republic?
The longest railway tunnel in Czechia is 1,758 metres long. The longest double track tunnel is 1,364 metres long.
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What is that "high speed track" you talk about? The furthest we got in planning a HSR network is setting up reserves for proposed corridors in regions. However the same applies eg. for the waterway corridor Danube-Elbe. There is really not much chance of building an actual 250+ HSR in near future.
Not with this attitude, no.
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Sorry for that stupid question but I haven't read this whole thread and couldn't find anything online. Is the high speed track the only concrete truly high speed rail project or are there already other concrete projects for connecting other cities? As a Viennese I'd be interested in anything benefitting the route Vienna-Prague of course, but also along the corridor from Linz to Prague or Vienna to Ostrava (on the way to Krakow)?
This tunnel near Plzeň is part of the 3d railway corridor.*

All the HSR planning is conditioned by the TEN-T network. The tracing in the Czech Republic looks like this:

Wien-Brno-Praha-Dresden
Wien-Brno-Ostrava-Katowice
Dresden-Praha-Brno-Ostrava-Katowice

There's also possibility of Wroclav-Praha-Munchen branch.

On some sections the corridors tracks could be used as well. That is the case with the Ejpovice tunnels which are being build in HSR standard so that they could be used on the possible HSR Praha - Munchen line.


The most concrete project at the moment is the modernisation of the Brno-Přerov section to 200 km/h on the Brno-Ostrava line.

The Praha-Lovosice section on the Praha- Dresden route has a deadline of 2030.

These are the most prepared parts of the HSR network.



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The works on the Praha-Česke Budějovice part and Praha - Plzeň are part of modernisation of so called corridors, the Praha - České Budějovice is one of the last not finished sections. The corridors project started in the 90s and the tracks allow for vmax 160 km/h. There is no plan for HSR between Praha - Linz.

The corridors are more or less finished.

You can find them on wiki, in Czech, the table shows the dates of completion in the second column.
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/První_železniční_koridor
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druh%C...%C3%AD_koridor
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C5%9...%C3%AD_koridor
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8C...%C3%AD_koridor

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Old June 15th, 2016, 05:42 PM   #473
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Not with this attitude, no.
I hope so. It would be a waste of money.
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I hope so. It would be a waste of money.
Yea, connecting 5 EU capitals (Berlin, Praha, Wien, Bratislava, Budapest) and 3 European top 10 tourist destinations (Berlin, Praha, Wien) with HSR would be a waste of money.

Moreover looking at the population density, this corridor is one of the more suitable ones in Europe.

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There is simply no demand for that connection, no matter how nice it might look like on the map.
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What is that "high speed track" you talk about? The furthest we got in planning a HSR network is setting up reserves for proposed corridors in regions. However the same applies eg. for the waterway corridor Danube-Elbe. There is really not much chance of building an actual 250+ HSR in near future.
Well, what is this about? I just took it at face value, was that a mistake?
If its not a blatant lie this sounds like fairly near term high speed rail between Prague and Dresden (15 years sounds reasonable and would need concrete planning to start soon in order to have it up and running before 2030)

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So the corridor planning seems to be there already, how realistic is it that all of this, or parts of it will be really constructed till 2035? Is it even possible to make an educated guess there? That agreement with Germany sounds like quite a committment already. But of course, as long as no concrete schedule is made and as long as the financing isn't secured, nothing can be taken for granted. Still, these plans suggest that a really competitive connection Vienna-Prague-Dresden is in the making. I'd even believe that Berlin-Dresden-Prague-Vienna would be competitive and doable within 6 h or less.

I find the RS1 corridor the most interesting one as it would be an entirely new intercity corridor between Brno and Praha and and a lot of time would be saved by the much shorter track length compared to the existing corridor in use.
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I'm very sceptical about HSR between Prague and Dresden being finished in 14 years. At least the Ore mountains tunnel would have to be in a very advanced stage of preparation process now but it's not.

I will be very happy if there are these finished constructions in 14 years:
1) 4th railway corridor
2) 3rd railway corridor between Prague and Ostrava
3) Prague airport and Kladno S-bahn
4) Final solution for Prague-Beroun line
5) and maybe new Brno central station with a 200+ line to Přerov

These are possible to be managed in that time and are much more needed than some sci-fi HSR without passangers.
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There is simply no demand for that connection, no matter how nice it might look like on the map.
Nonsense




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27.8 million foreign tourists visited the Czech Republic in 2015, an eight percent increase from the previous year as the country sets another record for number of international visitors. Tourism to the Czech Republic has increased in each of the past four years.

Data released by CzechTourism and reported by iDnes.cz reveals that more than half of those tourists – 14.4 million – arrived in the country for only one day. Each tourist spends an average of 2,769 CZK daily.

Despite a sharp decline in the number of tourists from Russia, an increase in the number of visitors from the US and Asian countries helped pick up the slack.

Germans accounted for the majority of the one-day visitors, at 60%, followed by Slovaks, Austrians and Poles. The majority of day trippers visited the country for shopping, according to iDnes.cz, while 2.4 million visitors used the Czech Republic as a transit country.
http://www.expats.cz/prague/article/...rists-in-2015/
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What is that "high speed track" you talk about? The furthest we got in planning a HSR network is setting up reserves for proposed corridors in regions. However the same applies eg. for the waterway corridor Danube-Elbe. There is really not much chance of building an actual 250+ HSR in near future.
Well, what is this about? I just took it at face value, was that a mistake?

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There is very little demand for any international HSR coming to Czechia as for now. Period.
Even the demand for Prague-Brno HSR is, according to several studies and researches, around 20k passangers daily, which is hardly justifiable for construction.

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Well, what is this about? I just took it at face value, was that a mistake?
How the hell am I supposed to know? Sorry, but it just seems as another empty words from politicians. Just take it symbolically, something like "we are such a good friends that we would even build a HSR if we lived in a different universe where money fall from sky and construction preparation processes don't last decades."
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