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[QuantumX]

Originally Posted by 1772

I still don't understand why the planes have to fly over the ocean and fly in over the city... Why can't they fly over the Everglades and come in from the west?

I think Sodermalm explained it best when he said the planes have to takeoff in the opposite direction from which planes are landing. They simply cannot land and takeoff in the same direction. There is a greater risk for midair collisions and crash landings with all the turbulence created by so many planes going in opposite directions in a very narrow corridor and far fewer planes would be able to land and takeoff in the same time frame as they do now. And MIA's runways as well as all the runways in South Florida are oriented east/west the way they are because of the prevailing seabreezes either off the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico. It is just not as simple a matter as you are proposing. Maybe somebody else can explain better if you still don't understand.

[1772]

Originally Posted by QuantumX

I think Sodermalm explained it best when he said the planes have to takeoff in the opposite direction from which planes are landing. They simply cannot land and takeoff in the same direction. There is a greater risk for midair collisions and crash landings with all the turbulence created by so many planes going in opposite directions in a very narrow corridor and far fewer planes would be able to land and takeoff in the same time frame as they do now. And MIA's runways as well as all the runways in South Florida are oriented east/west the way they are because of the prevailing seabreezes either off the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico. It is just not as simple a matter as you are proposing. Maybe somebody else can explain better if you still don't understand.

I see. No, it's quite well put.

Bummer that the airport has to be located where it is...

[QuantumX]

Originally Posted by 1772

I see. No, it's quite well put.

Bummer that the airport has to be located where it is...

Well, when the airport was conceived of, nobody could have predicted the kind of situation that we have today. At least we were able to get height restrictions just over 1,000 feet in the CBD near the Miami River and in Brickell down to 15th Road and east of Miami Avenue. The City of Miami and developers had to put up quite a fight with the FAA and MIA just to get that much, and it is a respectable height.

Frankly, I'm with Spell. Much beyond 1,000 feet really isn't that cost effective and economically feasible these days, especially if you want to pay American workers a decent wage to build the thing, not to mention it's easier to get people out of a less tall building if there is a problem. Let Shanghai and Dubai have those buildings. We don't need to create any more targets. The engineering techology that made such buildings possible was born in Chicago anyway, and nothing can take that away.

[kevinkagy]

Originally Posted by spellbound

The FAA restrictions prevent anything even remotely that tall ever rising in Miami but I doubt ANY American city will ever build something like Burj---and doubt they would even want to, frankly.

It's a marvel, no question, but Dubai's building orgasm has also left the place bankrupt with a collapsed real-estate and office market. I find Dubai to be fascinating in many ways but also the polar opposite of what I would consider a really livable, sustainable city.

Agreed Spellbound. Dubai is a prime example of a city build in a boom, in many bad ways. Many of their projects, ie: cooling water pipes under the beach sand, are completely unstustainable. It shall be interesting to see what may ultimately come of Dubai.

[Hia-leah JDM]

Originally Posted by spellbound

I actually LOVED that type of weather when I lived there year-round but understood the Chamber of Commerce types and Orange Bowl organizers don't exactly share that enthusiasm. I think it's supposed to be in the 40's for the game tomorrow. I just hope it doesn't affect agricultural interests too badly but the reports are not encouraging on that front. I well remember what the big freezes of the 70's and 80's did to those guys.

Of course, most of the country aside from the West Coast is really cold right now. Way below normal here as well. Time for a skiing trip!

Tonight's game will be the coldest Oange Bowl ever!
Kick off will be 50° and the game might end with the temperature nearing in on the 30's.

[DJ88]

For the past few days I've been watching from my balcony, a pretty tall crane go up right behind the McDonalds on NE 2nd Ave near the MDC campus downtown.

Anyone know what's going up there?

[kevinkagy]

Originally Posted by DJ88

For the past few days I've been watching from my balcony, a pretty tall crane go up right behind the McDonalds on NE 2nd Ave near the MDC campus downtown.

Anyone know what's going up there?

That may be the new MDC building going up on 2nd Av just south of the McDonald's, north of the Loft 3 site. They announced they were planning a building there, but that the official designs weren't ready yet. I'd be surprised to hear they've already broken ground.

[QuantumX]

Originally Posted by Hia-leah JDM

Tonight's game will be the coldest Oange Bowl ever!
Kick off will be 50° and the game might end with the temperature nearing in on the 30's.

We tied a record low of 40 degrees this morning that has stood for over 100 years!

[Hia-leah JDM]

There's a possibility for scattered snow flurries this weekend throughout the peninsula!

[spellbound]

Originally Posted by Hia-leah JDM

There's a possibility for scattered snow flurries this weekend throughout the peninsula!

The latest weather reports I've seen give snow a chance as far south as Orlando this weekend when the latest cold blast arrives. As recently as 2008, flurries were reported in Daytona and Volusia County---so with a little extra 'oomph' and the right conditions, who knows?

I'm lucky enough to remember (and have seen for myself) the day it snowed in Miami. January 19, 1977. It only lasted for 20 minutes or so where I was (North Miami as a 14-year-old) but it was unforgettable and magical. In some spots not far away---like Delray Beach---it actually stuck to the ground and accumulated.

Obviously, I see snow more these days but not as frequently as you might think. Philly isn't exactly Minnesota in that regard and winter here is actually pretty tame---not even remotely what I experienced in Michigan or Boston. It's snowing outside right now, actually, but it'll be be completely gone by the afternnoon. It's definitely not Buffalo or Toronto or anyplace with REAL winter. Much tamer---far less weather excitement.

I guess that's a good thing but I still LOVE snow. Everything is so peaceful and beautiful when it falls.

The day it fell in Miami remains a very special memory for all of us who saw it.

[spellbound]

Figured you fellas might enjoy this:

Jan. 19, 1977: The day it snowed in Miami

Thirty years ago today, it snowed in South Florida. To some, that was the equivalent of hell freezing over. Many still remember the day.BY LUISA YANEZ
lyanez@MiamiHerald.com
(This story was originally published January 19, 2007.)

Forecaster Ray Biedinger looked at the screen of his trusty weather radar in the wee hours of Jan. 19, 1977, and knew what he had to do.

The bitter cold front barreling south across the state during his midnight shift at the old National Weather Service office in Coral Gables left him no choice but to hold his breath and issue one of Miami's most unusual forecasts:

"Cold with rain showers and the possibility of snow, " Biedinger wrote.

"I didn't put snow first, if you notice, " he said recently. But he got it right.

Thirty years ago today, snowflakes briefly dusted palm trees, windshields and people from Miami to West Palm Beach -- a freak but brief winter wonderland and the only South Florida snowfall on record in the 20th century.

Shivering South Floridians, young and old, looked up into the sky in total amazement as flakes landed on their faces.

In those early-morning hours, snowflakes fell as far south as Homestead and daytime temperatures for the region dipped into the low 30s. But by 9:30 a.m., South Florida's big snow show was over, melted by the sun's rays.

The Miami News' headline that afternoon screamed: "Snow in Miami!" The next day The Miami Herald's read: "The Day It Snowed in Miami."

The rare event remains a special memory for those who witnessed it. Hurricanes come and go, but snow in Miami? That's once in a lifetime.
"I remember it like it was yesterday, " said Matt Levinson, of Weston. He was 5 at the time and living in Southwest Miami-Dade.

"I remember standing on the front lawn of my house and as the snow was falling, I tried picking it up, but it melted as soon as it hit the ground, " said Levinson, now 35, who works in public relations.

Across town that morning, Leon Strickland of North Miami was at a rock-pit work site.

"At first, I didn't know what was falling from the sky, it was so light, " said Strickland, now 65 and retired. "You had to be wearing a navy blue jacket to really see clearly it was snow. But I'm here to tell you, it snowed that day."

His 10-year-old son saw it, too. Norm Strickland was in class with 600 other pupils at North Miami Elementary when the principal's voice came over the loudspeaker about 8:40 a.m.

"I remember he said: 'Children, we're going to do this in an orderly manner. We are all going to go outside because it's snowing, ' " said Strickland, 40, a pharmaceutical salesman who now lives in Huntington, W.Va., with this wife and two daughters.

"Well, once he said snow, forget order, " said Norm Strickland. "The principal couldn't have announced there was a nuclear bomb in the building and gotten us kids out of class faster.

"Everybody went crazy, " he said. "Total glee is what I remember."

At Sabal Palm Elementary in North Miami Beach, 10-year-old Susan Schwartz was walking in a hallway when someone yelled, "Snow."

"We all ran to the sidewalk. I don't remember the teacher even trying to stop us. We were trying to catch the snow in our mouth, but it would melt, " Schwartz, 40, now an educator in the Broward County school system, said of her first snow experience.

Many South Floridians missed the brief snow event. So there were skeptics. Veteran radio disc jockey Rick Shaw tried to set them straight from his Broward radio booth.

"I was working at WAXY-106. Someone said something about seeing snow coming down, " said Shaw, who is retiring this year. "We ran back to a big window and, my gosh if it wasn't snowing in Fort Lauderdale! Being from St. Louis, I knew what snow looked like. I ran back into the studio and started playing Bing Crosby's White Christmas."

image hosted on flickr

[Roark]

How can this be?
Is is possible that Al Gore Jr., politician and Divinity School Graduate, was wrong about climate science??

Totally shocking...if you can't trust government and organized religion, what can you trust?
Brrrrr.....

[Södermalm]

Originally Posted by spellbound

I'm lucky enough to remember (and have seen for myself) the day it snowed in Miami. January 19, 1977. It only lasted for 20 minutes or so where I was (North Miami as a 14-year-old) but it was unforgettable and magical.

The day it fell in Miami remains a very special memory for all of us who saw it.

a seminal moment in spellbound's life....

[QuantumX]

We have the chance of breaking a record again tonight. The low is now predicted to be 5 degrees colder (32) than originally predicted for later tonight/early tomorrow morning just as the high today was 5 degrees colder than predicted. We never really broke 50. At one point, the Weather Channel said we were at 54 degrees when I'm sure somebody inverted those numbers because the high had already been reported by them to be 47 degrees earlier in the day.

Anyway, I pulled this off the weekend box office gross. After only 4 weeks in distribution, Avatar is now the 7th highest grossing movie of all time. After only 3 weeks, it was number 10. I'll wait until it's warmer before I go see it. Today on the Rickenbacker was enough exposure to the elements for one day.

Avatar, 20th Century Fox, $48,500,000 this weekend, $429,040,000 total after only four weeks.

[miamipaintball]

and sorry no pictures.

the lynx complex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_Complex


1101 brickell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1101_Brickell

the flairtron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brickell_Flatiron

paramont park

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramount_Park

Brickell CitiCentre Complex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brickel...Centre_Complex

[Hia-leah JDM]

I went to Sunset Place to watch Avatar on IMAX and it was sold out, it was also sold out in normal 3-D and 2-D! -__-

Maybe next week.

[1772]

Originally Posted by Roark

How can this be?
Is is possible that Al Gore Jr., politician and Divinity School Graduate, was wrong about climate science??

Totally shocking...if you can't trust government and organized religion, what can you trust?
Brrrrr.....

I'd love for Al Gore to hold a climate scare-seminair in Miami right now.

[QuantumX]

Originally Posted by 1772

I'd love for Al Gore to hold a climate scare-seminair in Miami right now.

We actually broke another record for the low temperature this morning that stood since 1927. The record was 37 degrees and we dropped to 36. It could go lower in the next hour since it is only 5:38 a.m. right now.

[QuantumX]

Originally Posted by miamipaintball

Whatever happened to these 5 projects?

and sorry no pictures.

the lynx complex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_Complex


1101 brickell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1101_Brickell

the flairtron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brickell_Flatiron

paramont park

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramount_Park

Brickell CitiCentre Complex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brickel...Centre_Complex

See post #30 of this thread regarding Brickell CitiCentre, and Tibor Hollo and sons purchased the property at 1101 Brickell. I'll leave the rest to the other members of the Miami forum.

[Aceventura]

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=635402

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=199989

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=327654

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=615628