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Old September 23rd, 2014, 06:07 AM   #101
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Until now, London's One Hyde Park was home to the most expensive penthouse in the world, sold earlier this year for nearly $240 million. But there's a new record-holder in play. Bloomberg's Caroline Connan gets an exclusive tour of the newly-built Odeon Tower in Monaco.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 06:12 AM   #102
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Very very sad. I thought the era of uninhibited demolishing was over...

Can't they replace the butt ugly 70s buildings? Alot of these makes no sense and could be rebuilt using alot more of the space.
Just take these two along the hairpin east of the Casino Square.


Both could be rebuilt and use more of the space; especially the taller one; it has almost only it's condos towards the water; why not towards the Casino Square?!
I actually liked those buildings when I visited. They have a nice vintage character IRL.
You cry about demolition yet beg for others to be demolished. You are repeating the mistakes of history.

As for the rest of the city, seems like being tax-free is the sole reason any billionaire would even bother living there. It's dirty and doesn't even have a beach. The palace looks like something from disneyland, too.
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Old September 23rd, 2014, 10:38 AM   #103
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It's dirty and doesn't even have a beach.
I guess you should check again:

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Old September 23rd, 2014, 03:50 PM   #104
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I actually liked those buildings when I visited. They have a nice vintage character IRL.
You cry about demolition yet beg for others to be demolished. You are repeating the mistakes of history.

As for the rest of the city, seems like being tax-free is the sole reason any billionaire would even bother living there. It's dirty and doesn't even have a beach. The palace looks like something from disneyland, too.
I completly agree with you!!
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Old September 24th, 2014, 01:51 AM   #105
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I actually liked those buildings when I visited. They have a nice vintage character IRL.
You cry about demolition yet beg for others to be demolished. You are repeating the mistakes of history.
I happen to think 70s architecture is a abomination and the less we see of it, the better.

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As for the rest of the city, seems like being tax-free is the sole reason any billionaire would even bother living there. It's dirty and doesn't even have a beach. The palace looks like something from disneyland, too.
Ehm, Larvotto Beach? Follow the street in the picture and you have a great beach; both public and private.

Also, Monaco dirty? Since when?
Well, if you like 70s architecture I suppose the castle isn't your cup of tea.
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Old September 24th, 2014, 02:08 AM   #106
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People in the 1940s thought the same thing about victorian architecture. Everyone hates the architecture of their immediate predecessors.
It was actually another guy on my tour who said it looked like something from Disneyland, especially compared to the old village next to it.

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I swear I couldn't see the beach in Monaco, all I saw were walls and the marina...
I wonder if anyone here is actually from Monaco, in which case, don't take offense as you're living miles better than most people here.
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Old September 24th, 2014, 05:50 PM   #107
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People in the 1940s thought the same thing about victorian architecture. Everyone hates the architecture of their immediate predecessors.
It was actually another guy on my tour who said it looked like something from Disneyland, especially compared to the old village next to it.
Did they really?
You must admitt that there is a big difference between pre-1930 and post-1930 architecture.
Pre-1930 was classical, post-1930 was beginning of modernism.

Architectural evolution isn't linear in any way.

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I swear I couldn't see the beach in Monaco, all I saw were walls and the marina...
I wonder if anyone here is actually from Monaco, in which case, don't take offense as you're living miles better than most people here.
Oh well, no biggie. It's in the eastern part, from the Casino to Italy so to speak.
Next time you're around, you should find it.
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Old September 25th, 2014, 10:09 PM   #108
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Did they really?
According to the President of the Historic Preservation Trust.

"Everyone thinks that the architecture, decorative arts, costumes and similar products of their immediate predecessors are hideous.” - Richard Howland (1957)
who was defending Victorian Architecture.

The Casino and Museum are very nice, though.
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Old September 28th, 2014, 06:25 AM   #109
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Would love to visit here and its awesome to see projects still happening in such an already dense place.
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Old January 5th, 2015, 11:16 PM   #110
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Some months ago 1772 asked about pictures of "Le Villas Du Sporting".
Now a lot of pictures have been released of the project, enjoy!





The villa on the right:



The beach:



The left villa's pool:





Pictures of the villa in the middle (the largest one!):
























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Old January 5th, 2015, 11:42 PM   #111
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^ What's the prices like on this plot? Must've been astronomical stuff, considering the density all around and seeing this "waste of space". The organic architecture feels totally out of place there, would have been better somewhat more inland in the hills/mountains, but still seems cozy.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 12:39 AM   #112
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The monthly rent for one of those 3 villas is about €200,000 (according to the SBM, promoter of this project and owner of the villas)
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Old January 6th, 2015, 12:48 AM   #113
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The monthly rent for one of those 3 villas is about €200,000 (according to the SBM, promoter of this project and owner of the villas)
Yeah, but don't forget the "optional amenities". You can have a private butler, home chef, limousine and chauffeur, housekeeping, laundry service, room service and use of the Sporting Club Helistation!

Quite excessive I think.

You can find more information here if you want to. http://fr.montecarlosbm.com/hotel-mo...s-du-sporting/
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Old February 17th, 2015, 02:29 AM   #114
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Is there any other new constructions taking place in Monaco?
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Old February 18th, 2015, 12:01 AM   #115
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Old February 21st, 2015, 08:37 PM   #116
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Is there any other new constructions taking place in Monaco?
Wow, what a question! The answer is: everywhere.
But large new constructions are for example the new Hospital, the white "boxes" in the Casino garden (I don't really know what it is) and a lot of buildings above the new tunnel and the new street next to the Jardin Exotique.

On this picture you can see the new hospital (under construction) in the backround and some other new buildings below the Jardin Exotique:
https://flic.kr/p/qUTyMZ

The boxes:

http://www.avd-monaco.com/en/news-mo...o-gardens.html

I also found a website where you can watch a lot of places in monaco from quite new photo spheres, enjoy it! You can start from this place, a street where a lot of new buildings have been built: http://www.monaco360.net/vt/PLACCOND/

You can watch the new street on google too:
https://www.google.se/maps/@43.73276...wGQ3o5NvkA!2e0

Have a nice weekend!
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 05:23 PM   #117
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I was talking to someone via work earlier this week who is based in Monaco and has a number of investments there, including some relating to Grimaldi relations.

He was saying they can't sell the 200 million euros Odeon apartment, NO ONE is interested.
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Old February 25th, 2015, 05:08 PM   #118
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I was talking to someone via work earlier this week who is based in Monaco and has a number of investments there, including some relating to Grimaldi relations.

He was saying they can't sell the 200 million euros Odeon apartment, NO ONE is interested.
I am (hehe)
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Old February 25th, 2015, 06:56 PM   #119
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Thank you Erikツ for your excellent post on the Sporting Villas. I had totally missed it. Great finds!

To answer what the white boxes are; they are temporary pods with shops; these are shops that will later be located in the structure that is replacing the Palace Sporting d'Hiver.
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Old February 25th, 2015, 06:59 PM   #120
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Very sad to see this getting torned down. I like Prince Albert, but I think he should put a stop the the destruction of old houses. There are plenty of 70s buildings that are ugly and unefficient (alot of them only have windows towards one way; why not use all of the structure?).

That said; I wonder how much a project like this costs. I take it they have to buy the building and pay all the occupants for their appartiments.

http://www.monacolife.net/?action=show&id=4035

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[img size=200]http://s16.postimg.org/mxnpm73md/villas_larvotto.jpg[/img size=200]

MONACO LIFESTYLE: The last remaining villa on ave Princesse Grace is to be torn down overnight, with demolition starting at 20:00 and due to finish at 08:00 on Thursday morning. Despite its contribution to the aesthetics of Monaco, the Palais de la Plage was not protected…

In its place will rise a new structure of between 10 and 15 floors. The site is owned by the heirs of the late Victor Pastor.
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