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Old May 23rd, 2011, 02:44 PM   #81
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there's plenty of places they could send the bus from, store street or round the back of the station spring to mind.
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Old May 23rd, 2011, 04:16 PM   #82
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Yeah round the back of the Gateway House would be perfect. Totally agree with pedestrianising the whole of that approach
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Old May 23rd, 2011, 04:18 PM   #83
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A pic of that corner taken today. Doesn't appear perfectly comparable due to all the street furniture and my crappy camera! Not to mention the awful, but more accurate, weather in my photo.

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Old May 23rd, 2011, 06:09 PM   #84
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Old May 24th, 2011, 12:07 PM   #85
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If you're looking for a respectful addition to the current building then this is it. It looks as though it could have always been there, yet at the same time serves to enhance the current building and tidy up the back which is a right state. Finally, IMO it gives greater presence and pronunciation to Ducie St. which should serve to benefit Piccadilly Basin and beyond.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 01:12 PM   #86
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Yeah round the back of the Gateway House would be perfect. Totally agree with pedestrianising the whole of that approach
It makes more sense to keep the buses where they are, especially when running rail replacements. No reason though why the road can't be narrowed or paved over, particularly by the traffic lights.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 01:30 PM   #87
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if the buses went from the back of the station it would be just as long a walk from the concourse, maybe even slightly shorter..!
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Old May 24th, 2011, 05:57 PM   #88
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if the buses went from the back of the station it would be just as long a walk from the concourse, maybe even slightly shorter..!
What are you thinking of as the back of the station? There's no room to queue or turn buses near the car park entrance and the main entrance is busy enough with taxis and short stay parking. Alternatively, you have a nice wide approach from the city centre that can easily be shared with pedestrians.
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Old July 7th, 2011, 05:14 AM   #89
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Was thinking about what potential Hotel Group could take up residence and I thought about Radisson Blu (formerly SAS). Manchester City Centre doesn't have one. Thinking about the hotel groups surrounding the area, MacDonald, Mint Hotel, Abode, Malmaison and the soon to be Premier Inn, I think it would sit well and be good competition for MacDonald.

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Old July 21st, 2011, 02:32 PM   #90
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The Warehouse Project's last year at Store Street

Q. What will happen to the venue? Is it being demolished, renovated, etc?

A. Back in 2008 we thought we were going to lose the venue due to some major demolition works planned on a site just next door. The credit crunch and recession put that back, but there are some major works planned for Gateway House which is the 'S' building that snakes up on the station approach which would in the next year or two have put a question mark over whether we would have been able to continue in there anyway. Also the planning permission to use the site for events expires at the end of this year, and with the development planned around Piccadilly that would probably not have been extended. In the short term the Store Street site will just become a car park again. After that who knows, but there will be no return for WHP.

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Old September 29th, 2011, 09:05 PM   #91
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Plans submitted apparently, taken from AJ, more images on the site.



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Hodder submits plans for £35million overhaul of Seifert's Gateway House

Hodder + Partners has submitted plans for the proposed redevelopment of Richard Seifert’s 1965 Gateway House, next to Piccadilliy Station in Manchester

The scheme, which has changed from the firm’s original competition-winning scheme (AJ 11.12.09), will see the landmark curved-office building converted into a 270-room hotel. The £35 million project for Realty Estates includes a new 3,700m² office block with ground floor retail space on Ducie Street and a separate three-storey gym built behind the Seifert building.

The Manchester-based practice, which has recently moved offices and is headed by Stirling Prize-winning architect Stephen Hodder (Salford University’s Centenary Building 1996), hopes to land planning consent for the development before the end of the year.

English Heritage has confirmed it has no intention to list the existing Seifert buidling.
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Gateway House is often a visitor’s first impression of Manchester. It is now looking a little tired with a public realm unfitting to an international city.

The conversion of Gateway House into a hotel resolves a missing piece of the city by creating a Railway Hotel, in the same vain as St Pancreas Station, London.
Gateway House is considered one of Manchester’s greatest modernist buildings. As a result, the strategy for the refurbishment of is one of conservation rather than reconstruction. The building will be stripped back to its concrete structure and reclad to meet current envelope requirements while still stressing the horizontals and fine grain of the existing building. The desire is for the façade to capture the dynamism of Station Approach whereby over 20 million people pass every year. The proposal is to utilise LED lights that will create the largest piece of public artwork in the city.

The main hotel accommodation - reception, bar and restaurant - is located at first floor level to maximise views over the city and reduce any noise impact of the busy streets below. The new colonnaded base will frame the individual shop units whilst giving an architectural logic to the existing corner that houses Café Nero. The concrete ‘framed base’ becomes the architectural language and rhythm of the new build elements of the scheme, linking the triumvirate of the hotel, retail and office.

The new office block accentuates the podium frame and uses it to form the structure for the office building. Taking the robust massing of the adjacent Victorian warehouse, the frame is used to conceptually hold a Miesian box that further clasps a glass cube. The layering of ‘frame and boxes’ pushes the glass cube northwards, projecting it out of its holding structure. The slip of the glass cube is deliberate in order to create a recess on the southern elevation (which is also louvered) and a projection on the northern face where solar overheating is not an issue.

The office is served from the existing northern core of Gateway House by a series of link bridges which creates a dynamic, eight-storey high atrium linking the entrance to the upper most floor.

The gym offers a destination building, bringing 24 hour a day footfall to the rear of Gateway House as a strategy to activate a forgotten area of Manchester. The main treatment of the facade is opaque glass which will illuminate the building to create a beacon for the buildings activity.
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Old September 29th, 2011, 10:14 PM   #92
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Is that near Liver Street?
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Old September 29th, 2011, 10:18 PM   #93
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Is that near Liver Street?
Let's hope they are better at designing buildings than writing press releases.
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Old September 29th, 2011, 10:20 PM   #94
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It's next to kings cross ifnthats what you're asking?
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Old September 29th, 2011, 10:25 PM   #95
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It's next to kings cross ifnthats what you're asking?
I think its more a case of lack of proof reading and over-reliance on spell checking myself.
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Old September 29th, 2011, 11:43 PM   #96
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in the same vain as St Pancreas
Let's hope that's not true either

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Old September 30th, 2011, 10:56 AM   #97
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I love this proposal, as it is one of my favorite building in the city. I particularly like the break through on the podium. I hope it can do for the back of Gateway House what the breakthrough did for Piccadilly Plaza and New York Street. And as GShutty said earlier it pushes things down Ducie Street which will soon have the addition of the Premier Inn.
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Old September 30th, 2011, 01:43 PM   #98
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The thing that ruins it for me is that nasty advertising object on the corner why is that being retained?
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Old October 1st, 2011, 11:22 AM   #99
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TBH Gateway House in it's current state is the only thing letting this area/the gateway into Manchester City Centre down. Once Gateway House is refurbished the first impressions of the City Centre when leaving Piccadilly Station will be nothing but positive.
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Old October 1st, 2011, 11:31 AM   #100
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As long as the shops are of a high standard rather than the laundry shops & second hand clothing shops that're there now.
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