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Old February 4th, 2005, 01:32 PM   #81
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Yes, the hotel is not part of the project anymore
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Old February 4th, 2005, 01:47 PM   #82
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OMG!!! What do I see when I open Aftenposten.no right now this very moment??? The hotel may be back in the plans! But lower, and with a much, much more extreme design! Now the hotel "king" Arthur Buchardt, wants to invest 300 million kr and build a hotel there. He has, in all secret worked with the architects Spacegroup for a year now, with this hotel. This has so far got a positive response for the resposible authorities and politicians.

This hotell will be shaped like a sculpture and be a mixture between a waterfall(!), park and hotel! The park will be full of colorfull artworks by Marianne Heske.




Hmm, I am not dreaming, and it is not 1.st of April yet....
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Old February 4th, 2005, 02:29 PM   #83
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@ Christian
Don't worry, parts of the cultural center itself are about as tall as any ordinary 12 story building, and that new hotel design NorthStar presented is far more exciting than a 12 story box, even if it's shorter.

12 story buildings really just disappear in the mass in densely built urban areas.
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Old February 4th, 2005, 02:46 PM   #84
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The 12 storey hotel design was good, but i actually enjoy this design more. None the less, great news...

Edit: Too obers reply, i agree...

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Old February 14th, 2005, 11:40 AM   #85
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Wow, i have actually never turned alot of notice into this thread, now i read the entire development through, im amazed, it bears a striking resembelance to Tallinn's own Coastal area urbanisation(which is btw 500ha)! And yes, in Tallinn development they also plan to have a opera theatre, this is great
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Old February 15th, 2005, 11:57 PM   #86
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Some news from the Barcode concept development...

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Europas mest energieffektive næringsbygg, Bjørvika

Oppstartseminar
Åpen prosjektkonkurranse

NAL utlyser i samarbeid med Oslo S Utvikling (OSU) og Enova en arkitekturkonkurranse om Europas mest energieffektive næringsbygg. Konkurranseområdet vil være en av stripene i BARCODE – vinnerforslaget til MVRDV/a-lab/Dark om områdeutvikling i Bjørvika.
Konkurransestart: 1. april
Oppstartseminar: 19. april
Innleveringsfrist: 7. juli


Tid: 19. april
Sted: Arkitektenes Hus, Josefinesgt. 34, Oslo
Frist: 7. juli


Oppstartseminaret vil være åpent for alle interesserte. Utvalgte europeiske prosjekter som representerer state of the art blir presentert. Seminaret vil for øvrig presentere konkurranseområdet, opplegg for energi- og miljøberegninger av konkurransebidragene og konkurransens målsettinger både innenfor arkitektur og miljø.

Hensikten med konkurransen er å realisere et referansebygg som forener god arkitektur og energieffektive løsninger. Konkurransen skal lede fram til et konkret prosjekteringsoppdrag. Bygget skal kunne brukes som et visningsobjekt både for arkitekter, øvrige aktører i byggebransjen og publikum. Løsningene skal være reproduserbare innenfor normale byggekostnader slik at realiseringen av prosjektet får mest mulig ringvirkninger.
Energibruk er hovedtema i konkurransen, men også materialbruk og universell utforming skal fokuseres.

Juryering: August – september
Prisutdeling: 14. oktober, under Arkitekturdagen i Oslo

Juryens formann er arkitekt Winy Maas fra MVRDV.
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Old February 16th, 2005, 10:05 AM   #87
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How exiting! For those who don't understand norwegian, they are having a architec conpetition for one of the buildings in the Barcode. There is quite alot of prestige here, as this building will be the most energy efficient building in Europe!
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Old March 18th, 2005, 12:41 AM   #88
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Four norwegian and one danish entrapeneur wants to join the tender on the sea-part of the suspension tunnel(is this a
word in english, "senketunnell" in norwegian) under Bjørvika. These are NCC Construction, Skanska Norge, AF Gruppen,
Veidekke Entreprenør and the danish Pihl & Søn.

It's possible to encounter archaelogical founds during this work. Consideration to these founds and enviromental
concerns are very important in the tender(the sea-bottom here is full of old polluted mud). The suspension tunnel
will be on 675 meters and have a cost of 3.9 billion kroner(479 million euros). The whole tunnel will be on 1.1 kilometer. In addition to this, comes 7 kilometers with smaller roads, small tunnels and on-ramps.


I may have shown this before, but this is how the traffic-flow is estimated after the tunnel is finished.


Current situation


What we won't miss when the tunnel is complete


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Old April 20th, 2005, 12:31 AM   #89
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The construction of the "real" Bjørvika-project starts May 2'nd

Or to be more precise, the demolition of this building will start then. It used to be a railway-school, and I'm glad it will be gone, because it doesn't fit the area at all.


PriceWaterhouseCoopers will be tenants for the entire new building that will be built in its place. A 12 floor building, wich will be finished at 1'st of december 2007. The design doesn't look revolutionary, imo. But we'll have to wait and see for more renders I guess.


I'm a little disapointed that the first building isn't higher than that, given that there will be some 17-floor buildings on the site. But it is still unclear where the tallest buildings in the barcode concept will be built. The developers, OSU(Oslo S Utvikling), wants to get big, profiled tenants, and custom-design buildings for each of them. They are working hard to make Røkke move Aker's HQ and their 2.000 employees down there.

Of the total 940.000 sqm floorspace that will be built in Bjørvika, 200.000 will be part of the bar-code area. This first building will be located where you see the black building in the middle of this render. The developers are stressing that the only thing that is certain about the design of the bar-code concept, is that it won't end up looking like this.


Source and images: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ir...cle1010789.ece
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Old April 20th, 2005, 12:46 AM   #90
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German investors show interest in Bjørvika

30 billion nok(3.65 billion euro) is to be invested in Bjørvika over the next 15 years, mostly by privates. For the first time, foreign investors are showing interest in investing.

There is a long way from interest to investments, naturally. But it seems like foreign investors are not interested in single buildings, but larger volumes. This makes Bjørvika interesting, says Paul Lødøen in OSU.

Espen Klevmark in Aberdeen Property Investment confirms this new tendency. -For the first time we notice that the interest for Northern Europe also includes Norway. And he thinks the reason is the lack of prospects to invest in on the continent(meaning central parts of Europe). -Alot of people move their saving over to property. The investors first look in their home-country, then in the countries nearby. Sweden have been focused on for some years. Now Norway is not just a laughing-stock.

The entire article in norwegian: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ir...cle1010789.ece
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Old April 20th, 2005, 12:51 AM   #91
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@NS: That's a lot of money. I bet they get something big done with that. As far as I know Björvika isn't that large an area, so they have to build tall. Sounds very promising to me.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 01:38 AM   #92
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^Yeah, it is nearly a million square meters of floorspace that are beeing put up, afterall....
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Old April 20th, 2005, 11:03 AM   #93
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Good to hear that Bjørvika moves into the construction fase
And I'm sure someone will provide us with LOT's of construction photos...
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that is ALOT of money... you could build Tallinn with that money
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^Indeed, but consider that alot of this is infrastructure. New roads, motorway-tunnel, tram-tracks, landfills etc.

@turnesol: I'll do my best
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Price Waterhouse Coopers

46m/ 12 stories tall office tower. Approved, and with construction start in january 2006. The agreement between PWC and Oslo S Utvikling AS was signed on march 18th. The building will be the first high-rise building to be built of the new high-rise clouster in downtown Oslo. Construction of the tower scheduled completion is 2007. The main facade material will be glass, with a outside skin of sun shading elements.





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And i guess i have too write a few words here. The idea of this building is good, but this design which has been choosen is too simple. This building will most likely look like many other office buildings which exist around Oslo today. It reminds me a lot of KPMG bygget, especally with that glass covering the facade. It makes the offices and building structure to be seen really well from the outside, which isn't good. But then, this is just a rendering, and the results is never the same as the rendering anyway.

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That hotel on the top of this page, does it have a water fall down the side, or does it just look like that?
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And i guess i have too write a few words here. The idea of this building is good, but this design which has been choosen is too simple. This building will most likely look like many other office buildings which exist around Oslo today. It reminds me a lot of KPMG bygget, especally with that glass covering the facade. It makes the offices and building structure to be seen really well from the outside, which isn't good. But then, this is just a rendering, and the results is never the same as the rendering anyway.
I second that.

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That hotel on the top of this page, does it have a water fall down the side, or does it just look like that?
Yes, the proposal has a waterfall on one of the sides. It remains to see what really happens on the site though.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 06:46 PM   #99
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In typical Norwegian style, the politicians have started to argue about something they have already agreed upon. The height limit for the buildings in the Bjørvika-area.

During the last election a conservative coalition were re-elected by a margin of just a few hundred votes and they are now arguing bechause the biggest party, Høyre (Conservatives) , wants to increase the height they agreed upon.
2 years ago they finally agreed to have a max height of 51 meters with the exection of one building that would be a highrise. But now they want to increase the limit to 67 meters. The problem is that this is just enough to block the view of the sea from large parts of the inner city:




Personally i think that the best idea is 51 meter max and one highrise. I dont see the point of increasing the height by just a few floors and then block the view from much of the city behind it. I had hoped that they had learned something from the Galleri Oslo building, bechause it has blocked off the whole Grønland area to the sea.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 07:01 PM   #100
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I disagree. It is much better with 67 meters and some air between the buildings than a solid wall of 51-meter buildings. I think that 67 meter is way to low though, 150 m would be perfect. Our city hall is 66 meters tall; why should we build any lower than this in Bjørvika?
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