RAIL TRANSIT Thread - General News on anything LRT, Monorail, KTM & other rail works

[tunomura]

the pictures is yours??

[razpatrol99]

wow... didnt know that they already plan for LRT3.. anyone know the roughly route for LRT3?? and realistically when can we see the gov start to built it?

[allurban]

Originally Posted by razpatrol99

wow... didnt know that they already plan for LRT3.. anyone know the roughly route for LRT3?? and realistically when can we see the gov start to built it?

LRT 3 can be expected to start planning around 2015, perhaps construction might start around 2025-2030.

LRT 3 would run from Kelana Jaya to Shah Alam & Klang, in a corridor north of the Federal Highway

Cheers, m

[t3ars_culprit]

Originally Posted by allurban

LRT 3 can be expected to start planning around 2015, perhaps construction might start around 2025-2030.

LRT 3 would run from Kelana Jaya to Shah Alam & Klang, in a corridor north of the Federal Highway

Cheers, m

What about South part of Shah Alam and Klang Kesas Highway?

[razpatrol99]

Originally Posted by allurban

LRT 3 can be expected to start planning around 2015, perhaps construction might start around 2025-2030.

LRT 3 would run from Kelana Jaya to Shah Alam & Klang, in a corridor north of the Federal Highway

Cheers, m

So from 2020 and beyond can we say that KL will be a rail based city?? especially with all the propose new mrt line/lrt extension and etc. Though i believe they shld already plan all this shits during early 2000 and if the gov did our lives will not be so miserables like now..

[allurban]

Originally Posted by razpatrol99

So from 2020 and beyond can we say that KL will be a rail based city?? especially with all the propose new mrt line/lrt extension and etc. Though i believe they shld already plan all this shits during early 2000 and if the gov did our lives will not be so miserables like now..

I would say yes, but in 2030...not 2020.

Cheers, m

[allurban]

Originally Posted by t3ars_culprit

What about South part of Shah Alam and Klang Kesas Highway?

That area is largely industrial with very little of the dense commercial & residential development that will actually support an MRT or LRT development.

It's actually pretty hard to even justify the LRT through the north side of Shah Alam ... even with future development, a BRT system or tram network would probably be more than enough to move people through Shah Alam.

The best option for the south side (if the development were there) would be to extend the Ampang LRT from Putra Heights through the south side of Shah Alam to the Shah Alam City Centre ... actually, I believe that was the plan in the Selangor Structure plan - extend both the LRT lines to meet at Shah Alam City Centre.

Cheers, m

[bukhrin]

Originally Posted by allurban

That area is largely industrial with very little of the dense commercial & residential development that will actually support an MRT or LRT development.

It's actually pretty hard to even justify the LRT through the north side of Shah Alam ... even with future development, a BRT system or tram network would probably be more than enough to move people through Shah Alam.

The best option for the south side (if the development were there) would be to extend the Ampang LRT from Putra Heights through the south side of Shah Alam to the Shah Alam City Centre ... actually, I believe that was the plan in the Selangor Structure plan - extend both the LRT lines to meet at Shah Alam City Centre.

Cheers, m

How about BRT or tram lines going radial feeding into the Shah Alam Komuter Station, functioning more like a Regional Station. Having LRT would make the journey time too long already what with the number of stops in between Shah Alam and KL.

[TWK90]

It would be better to introduce limited stop Komuter on KL-Klang corridor....then like what you mention, tram / BRT lines from KTM station (Shah Alam or Batu Tiga).

The tram platform should be built next to KTM Komuter platform for seamless transfer.

[daeng_jal]

Originally Posted by allurban

That area is largely industrial with very little of the dense commercial & residential development that will actually support an MRT or LRT development.

It's actually pretty hard to even justify the LRT through the north side of Shah Alam ... even with future development, a BRT system or tram network would probably be more than enough to move people through Shah Alam.

The best option for the south side (if the development were there) would be to extend the Ampang LRT from Putra Heights through the south side of Shah Alam to the Shah Alam City Centre ... actually, I believe that was the plan in the Selangor Structure plan - extend both the LRT lines to meet at Shah Alam City Centre.

Cheers, m

Ampang line would be part of MRT2..if they extented the monorail jln klang lama extension to meet up AGL which also meet KJL at putra height then go on to meet LRT3 at shah alam..

Can the little guy actually handle it?..i see lots of people would be riding it

[bukhrin]

Originally Posted by TWK90

It would be better to introduce limited stop Komuter on KL-Klang corridor....then like what you mention, tram / BRT lines from KTM station (Shah Alam or Batu Tiga).

The tram platform should be built next to KTM Komuter platform for seamless transfer.

Yes, like last time they used to have the KL-Klang shuttle thingy, not sure now still have or not.

Hopefully going forward at the very least, KTM will also upgrade their platform side Passenger Information System, the current one doesnt show much info except destination and time of departure. Don't even have to do much, just put "limited service" or something next to the train destination at those LED displays.

[mrtfreak]

Originally Posted by bukhrin

How about BRT or tram lines going radial feeding into the Shah Alam Komuter Station, functioning more like a Regional Station. Having LRT would make the journey time too long already what with the number of stops in between Shah Alam and KL.

I agree that this might be a better use of money. With the upgrades to the Komuter line, I don't see the sense in creating a parallel line other than it might be more accessible for those along its route. That could lead to excess capacity on Komuter, if I dare say so. A feeder network to the Komuter might be better, such as a north-south link from Shah Alam Komuter station, which would be the central station along that route. Spurs and branches could serve different precincts as Bukhrin has mentioned.

[Wisarut]

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Putting the cargo line along with KL Kommuter, track capacity will be filled up soon!

[allurban]

Originally Posted by bukhrin

How about BRT or tram lines going radial feeding into the Shah Alam Komuter Station, functioning more like a Regional Station. Having LRT would make the journey time too long already what with the number of stops in between Shah Alam and KL.

TRANSIT proposed a BRT line running in a two-way loop through north and south Shah Alam, connecting the main business and government centres with public transport (KTM Komuter and an LRT line extended to the Shah Alam stadium).

The thing is that the LRT is just being built as a line drawn on a map. In order to be successful, an LRT/MRT has to provide effective local services in an urban area, with longer distance services in suburban areas.

This is typically represented by station spacing - approximately 1km between stations in urban areas, around 2 km between stations in less urban areas.

The challenge in dealing with places like Subang Jaya and Shah Alam is that these areas have the potential to become more urbanized - Subang Jaya is a 30 year old suburban area that is becoming urbanized. Shah Alam is around 50 years old but less urbanized than Subang Jaya - but the development is happening now.

So the question for Shah Alam is, should the LRT link Shah Alam to KL & Klang? Or should the LRT be designed to service Shah Alam as the "centre" with Klang and Petaling Jaya as the "suburban" areas?

Because while Shah Alam is the capital of Selangor, it is not really an urban area and Klang is far more urban.

That is why TRANSIT has proposed that the Kelana Jaya LRT be extended to Shah Alam stadium with a series of Bus Rapid transit (and ideally, tram links) further west to Shah Alam & Klang.

Cheers, m

[t3ars_culprit]

Originally Posted by allurban

So the question for Shah Alam is, should the LRT link Shah Alam to KL & Klang? Or should the LRT be designed to service Shah Alam as the "centre" with Klang and Petaling Jaya as the "suburban" areas?

Cheers, m

This idea is not bad.. So we can commute around places like Klang Shah Alam and PJ..

[mrtfreak]

Originally Posted by allurban

TRANSIT proposed a BRT line running in a two-way loop through north and south Shah Alam, connecting the main business and government centres with public transport (KTM Komuter and an LRT line extended to the Shah Alam stadium).

That's a good proposal to me.

Originally Posted by allurban

That is why TRANSIT has proposed that the Kelana Jaya LRT be extended to Shah Alam stadium with a series of Bus Rapid transit (and ideally, tram links) further west to Shah Alam & Klang.

I like this one too. I guess it would help even out the loads if there was a fork at that end of the line, one going to Putra Heights and the other to Shah Alam Stadium. Perhaps then the capacity along the existing stretch wouldn't be so tight as when the Subang extension opens.

[allurban]

Originally Posted by mrtfreak

That's a good proposal to me.


I like this one too. I guess it would help even out the loads if there was a fork at that end of the line, one going to Putra Heights and the other to Shah Alam Stadium. Perhaps then the capacity along the existing stretch wouldn't be so tight as when the Subang extension opens.

well, we're not that keen on the extension to Putra Heights.

We would rather see Subang Jaya, Batu Tiga and then Shah Alam Stadium - simply because that would give us the KTM Komuter connection.

The issue with the extension into USJ and down to Putra Heights is the same as we have always had - there are no data provided to justify the extension into USJ, or the interchange at Putra Heights.

Cheers, m

[TWK90]

It seems to me, Putra Heights extension is more about "property development" ha ha.

[dengilo]

Oh ya!I could not think of a better reason for it!All the bijak pandai people doing the planning ha!The stadium is the best option!Open parking lot is a bonus.

[SgWay]

From the Shah Alam Stadium they could extend the LRT/KTM or whatever transit options into place like Puncak Alam,Kota Kemuning and if possible up until Kuala Selangor.....so many people live in these area not to mention the thousands of UiTM students..just look at the traffic on the Guthrie Highway and Jalan batu Arang.