RAIL TRANSIT Thread - General News on anything LRT, Monorail, KTM & other rail works

[boxxy]

Originally Posted by TWK90

From LRT Extension Open Day in Sunway Pyramid.

Ampang line will be fully automated in future, under the LRT extension.

Is it just me or is there a difference in time written in Bahasa and time written in English. 120s vs 180s How do they compute that?
While average speed 37km/j vs 36km/h

Perhaps, this is why KTMB's timetable is so hard to understand. Since it was probably written in this version of Bahasa.

[allurban]

Originally Posted by boxxy

Is it just me or is there a difference in time written in Bahasa and time written in English. 120s vs 180s How do they compute that?
While average speed 37km/j vs 36km/h

Perhaps, this is why KTMB's timetable is so hard to understand. Since it was probably written in this version of Bahasa.

because people live life faster in Bahasa Malaysia...

Seriously, tho ... how does someone miss proofreading something like that?

~m!

[lohxy]

Updates:








Well nothing special except the changed the lane and starting to build a connection lane and especially this:

[dengilo]

A good start!I want to see a lot more .Just keep it simple with as much daylight as possible,standardize it in such a way where the cost of building it can be kept in check.I see the same at Sentul Timur,Ampang,Chan Sow Lin,Sg Besi ,Kelana Jaya and many more.I know its expansive but in the long run it will pay it self.

[Skyprince]

Is it me ? I found RapidKL Ampang/Sri Petaling line extremely dull and not attractive at all. The inattractive trains, the poorly-lit stations with very dull feeling/poor design , boring announcements. Need to upgrade ALL stations and use better trains.

[dengilo]

Sometimes it reminds me of this particular system only that ampang line slightly cleaner and newerBut it serves its intended purpose.

[newmalayan]

Originally Posted by Skyprince

Is it me ? I found RapidKL Ampang/Sri Petaling line extremely dull and not attractive at all. The inattractive trains, the poorly-lit stations with very dull feeling/poor design , boring announcements. Need to upgrade ALL stations and use better trains.

haha. ampang line is more or less as boring as MRT system in manila

[Aquaglas]

Originally Posted by Skyprince

Is it me ? I found RapidKL Ampang/Sri Petaling line extremely dull and not attractive at all. The inattractive trains, the poorly-lit stations with very dull feeling/poor design , boring announcements. Need to upgrade ALL stations and use better trains.

For me boring = inconspicuous = well functioning service

I guess you have not been to Europe. If you see what kind of stations and trains we have to deal with here (not everywhere, but in many places) you will fall back in love with Ampang Line

Even new trains and stations are just built with the least possible amount of cash. Ampang line trains are smooth, quiet and functional. They have sufficient doors and a good acceleration. Air condition could be better, but it's ok.

I agree with you on station upgrades though. But they are making them OKU friendly with smaller upgrades anyway and that's all they need.

From all of the rail systems in Malaysia, Ampang line is the least one to worry about.

My question is just how they want to change the line to be 'fully automated'. I don't think it is technically possible to let the old trains operate without a driver. Or are they going to mix manual and automated trains on the tracks? That would be possible. In Germany we had that in Nuremberg on one of the lines for a couple of years.

[TWK90]

Originally Posted by Aquaglas

My question is just how they want to change the line to be 'fully automated'. I don't think it is technically possible to let the old trains operate without a driver. Or are they going to mix manual and automated trains on the tracks? That would be possible. In Germany we had that in Nuremberg on one of the lines for a couple of years.

Look no further than the recent conversion of Paris Metro Line 1, from driver operated operation to automated operation.

[kl 2020 ideas]

Originally Posted by TWK90

It seems Petaling Jaya is planning tram, as well as BRT in their development plan.

Taken from Selangor Times

I guess the tram might cut in the divider especially in the suburbs. But it might be unsuitable to build there due to the narrow lanes. Especially when it comes to the traffic where they might break the laws. Anyways a tram system in Subang Airport, Bandar Utama and Damansara Utama is a right way to improve PJ's traffic system. BTW, since PJ is planning a tram system, there are chances it might implement in Klang, Shah Alam, Gombak and Kuala Lumpur, right.

[dengilo]

[QUOTE=Aquaglas;

I guess you have not been to Europe. If you see what kind of stations and trains we have to deal with here (not everywhere, but in many places) you will fall back in love with Ampang Line

Even new trains and stations are just built with the least possible amount of cash. Ampang line trains are smooth, quiet and functional. They have sufficient doors and a good acceleration. Air condition could be better, but it's ok.

How true!

[Arkdriver]

Have you guys tried the Brussels Metro? The condition of the stations and trains are much more in deplorable state than Ampang Line. Even in trains they have this plywood to cover damaged floor, just like how malaysian would love to tampal plywood in newly commisioned elevators..

[razpatrol99]

Originally Posted by Aquaglas

For me boring = inconspicuous = well functioning service

I guess you have not been to Europe. If you see what kind of stations and trains we have to deal with here (not everywhere, but in many places) you will fall back in love with Ampang Line

Even new trains and stations are just built with the least possible amount of cash. Ampang line trains are smooth, quiet and functional. They have sufficient doors and a good acceleration. Air condition could be better, but it's ok.

I agree with you on station upgrades though. But they are making them OKU friendly with smaller upgrades anyway and that's all they need.

From all of the rail systems in Malaysia, Ampang line is the least one to worry about.

Agreed with u on this... even KTM inter-city train sometimes looks better compare with some trains in europe

But one thing for sure is that, their reliability and punctuality are something that we need to learn.

[TWK90]

New ticketing system for monorail coming in few days time.

Location : Pudu LRT station

[dengilo]

[QUOTE=razpatrol
But one thing for sure is that, their reliability and punctuality are something that we need to learn. [/QUOTE]

And thats the bottom line !I cannot remember how many times i miss trains while purchasing my tickets at the stations but i know damm well the next train is coming along soonParking is another thing we can learn from them!
Dont really care what the train look like as long as they are clean and efficient.

[dengilo]

Originally Posted by Arkdriver

Have you guys tried the Brussels Metro? The condition of the stations and trains are much more in deplorable state than Ampang Line. Even in trains they have this plywood to cover damaged floor, just like how malaysian would love to tampal plywood in newly commisioned elevators..

Its even more obvious if its closer to the french border!But they are reliable and some stations smoking is still allowed on the platforms

[Skyprince]

Haven't been to Brussels but been to many European countries.

Some of Paris metro lines are very old and trains look bad, but they look very functional with high frequency and near-perfect punctuality. Ampang Line..hmm , as a relatively new line I think its running far below its potential. Even seats are hard. Agree that its somewhat on par with Manila metro.

[TWK90]

Ampang line capacity with get much higher with the implementation of CBTC (Communications-Based Train Control).

[allurban]

Originally Posted by Aquaglas

My question is just how they want to change the line to be 'fully automated'. I don't think it is technically possible to let the old trains operate without a driver. Or are they going to mix manual and automated trains on the tracks? That would be possible. In Germany we had that in Nuremberg on one of the lines for a couple of years.

Perhaps they will implement automatic train operation, but the existing Ampang line trains will retain the drivers for safety purposes, while the new trains can operate under computer control, with controllers (like the DLR trains) for safety purposes.

Eventually, the old trains will be phased out and replaced. If we say that the line started operations in 1998, then we're almost at 15 years old, about halfway through the "lifetime" of a typical train.

Cheers, m

[nazrey]

Malaysia plans US$9.9b sukuk for rail job
Published: 2012/02/15
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_New...cle/index_html

Malaysia plans to raise as much as RM30 billion (US$9.9 billion) through an Islamic bond program to fund construction of a mass railway in the Southeast Asian nation’s capital, the project’s manager said.

Dana Infra Sdn Bhd, a finance ministry company created to fund infrastructure development, will sell ringgit-denominated Islamic notes, or sukuk, with maturities of as much as 65 years,

Azhar Abdul Hamid, chief executive officer of Mass Rapid Transit Corp., said in an interview late yesterday.

It will initially take a bridging loan of RM500 million from a consortium of banks to cover early building work, he said.


The sale of the bonds will help satisfy demand among insurers and banks for longer-maturity debt after companies in Malaysia issued a record RM75.6 billion of sukuk last year, with 88 per cent due in less than 10 years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Other local firms may also need to raise funds as part of a government-backed US$444 billion plan to build railways, roads and power plants over the next decade.

“The Dana Infra program will allow investors, especially insurers, to extend their asset duration,” Michael Chang, who oversees US$1 billion as head of fixed income at MCIS Zurich Insurance Bhd. in Kuala Lumpur, said in an interview today.

“Demand for such bonds will be healthy because long-dated Islamic paper are rare.” - Bloomberg