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Old January 5th, 2014, 12:43 PM   #2061
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Another example from my country - Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's memorial museum in village Kodzadzik, Macedonia



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At 1,200 meters above sea level over the karst countryside in village Kodzadzik were found the foundations of the family house of great Turkish reformer and statesman Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, on basis of which in 2009 began reconstruction of the memorial building.
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Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's grandfather on his father's side - Hafız Ahmet Efendi, was from Kocacık Yörüks (a nomadic shepherd tribe from Anatolia) that had come from Konya and Aydın and settled at Kodzadzik in Macedonia in the XIV - XV cent.
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Hafız Ahmet Efendi settled in “Tshli Maala” (Tashli neighborhood) which means “stone neighborhood”.
The museum was finished and opened in 2013.

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The reconstruction of the family houses of Ataturk was made on basis of an old photograph, which was in the possession of the last remaining female descendant living in the Macedonian city of Debar.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 03:38 PM   #2062
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I'm not sure how useful it would be in actual practice, but I've always thought that there should be a computer rendering program that contains all the assorted classical details, ratios, proportions, etc. to simplify and standardize, possibly even diversify the creation of classically styled buildings. It makes sense since those structures are governed by certain conventions and mathematical relationships. That way an architect from say, a former Eastern Bloc country or Asia (whose lack of classical background is no fault of their own) could click and drag a classical order, and then build up details from an available database of architectural designs.

If anything it could be a visual teaching tool for Greek and Roman architecture. If I were a wealthy benefactor or institution that supports Classic architecture, I'd fund it.

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Old January 5th, 2014, 08:21 PM   #2063
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I can't speak for the whole Eastern bloc, but in Russia there are tens of architectural educational institutions, where study the classics. In our country has a strong restoration school. Result of its activities is a hundreds of restored architectural masterpieces destroyed by war. It is known, our country suffered the most damage during the second world war. Thank You very much for the kind words, but all of Your worries are groundless. The General problem of the representatives of the West is in a very poor knowledge of Russian architecture, both classic and modern. I had the opportunity to make sure that none of you is not versed in the history of Russian art. In your schools do not teach a course on the history of architecture of Eastern European countries, heirs of a culture of Byzantium. I'm sorry, but at this forum thread from the West examples are very weak in a modern classics. There is an impression that your architectural school limited to the study of Treatises Vitruvius. This approach is very limited since the antique tectonics is in contradiction with the modern constructions and the scope of construction works. For this reason, You can't show anything of a major scale in the field of modern classics, but limited to small mansions. This is a contradiction and the crisis of the modern world classical architecture, this is the present limits of the classical schools. If I'm wrong at, then you show something worthy of large-scale buildings for persuasion.

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Old January 5th, 2014, 08:25 PM   #2064
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Badly copied Italian Renaissance kitsch for the rich Russians in Sochi!
I wonder how you would have reacted to the Jugendstil. That's what this looks like to me. "Traditional architecture" does not mean mindless regurgitation, it allows innovating within a tradition. Sure, it might be a bit over-the-top, but how is it so in a way any Rococo building wasn't? Calm down!
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Old January 5th, 2014, 09:28 PM   #2065
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Pokrovsky Cathedral in Rivne/Ukraine. Opened in 2001







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Old January 5th, 2014, 09:34 PM   #2066
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Loyola University - Damen Hall
Previous building (demolished)
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/85787825

The previous one wasn't bad.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 10:38 PM   #2067
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Buki village in Kyiv region. Ukraine
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Old January 5th, 2014, 10:42 PM   #2068
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Old January 5th, 2014, 10:45 PM   #2069
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But it features elements of the traditional Ukrainian architecture, right?
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But it features elements of the traditional Ukrainian architecture, right?
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Old January 6th, 2014, 02:24 AM   #2072
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The Church of Christ in Sochi and the Pokrovsky Cathedral are quite nice but these...



...are fairly terrible. They lack proportion and the glass is just awful.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 03:19 AM   #2073
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This one is actually a great example, how to do it right! Beautiful new building, that you can hardly distinguish from a genuinely old one. Even the quality of the paintings is of a high standard.

But this one:

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...looks like it would be standing in a Russian/Ukrainian theme park. Great example, how to not do it.

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Old January 6th, 2014, 03:35 AM   #2074
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Sochi, Russia. sorry but Absolutely not !, bad proportions, bad scale, bad decorative elements, kitsch.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 08:59 AM   #2075
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Sochi, Russia. sorry but Absolutely not !, bad proportions, bad scale, bad decorative elements, kitsch.
Proportions are in fact right on most of the buidlings. Anyone how say its not doesnt know what he is talking. Materials look good in most places too. True is that it looks a bit to much mixed up.

I personaly have mixed feelings on this. i really like those blocks with different facades, they work great to me as what they are. They were never intendet to look like something that was build in 19th century. They just took the stiles and did something creative.


http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9061/...283dd1_XXL.jpg

http://privetsochi.ru/uploads/images.../17/af8d45.jpg

What i do not like are those large hotel buildings


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Old January 6th, 2014, 12:34 PM   #2076
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This one is actually a great example, how to do it right! Beautiful new building, that you can hardly distinguish from a genuinely old one.
That's because there's little new in it in fact.
It is an almost exact replica of the Church of Our Lady the Merciful in St. Petersburg. And minor alterations which do take place are not for better.
Here's the original:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_...y_the_Merciful

(that church still exists but needs serious restoration after decades of serving as a pool for divers training)
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Old January 6th, 2014, 03:38 PM   #2077
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Dont know if we had it before...

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Le Plessis-Robinson After:










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And voilà, It's not perfect but i think it's better than this ugly social-buildings, ho and if you wonder where the people from the old social buildings where placed, they where given the choice to get an apartment in the new-city and 87% of them said yes.
The "typical 2,50 ceiling" problem. Everything else is ok
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Old January 6th, 2014, 04:11 PM   #2078
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Regarding new russian orthodox churches.. this one is very beautiful. But the location is all but orthodox

Holy Life-Giving Trinity on Phuket island, finished 2011



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Old January 6th, 2014, 06:04 PM   #2079
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Tolbert: It's important to put your example in context.

A fascinating example from France that shows how architecture
and urban planning can determine the wellfare and health of a society:

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Le plessis-Robinson is a city located in the South-West sub of Paris, from 1952 to 1989 the city was controlled by the local communist party, they kept building social apartments not aligned with the streets and without any "caractère".

Then from 1989 to today à right-wing mayor was elected, and they decided to completely transform the Plessis-Robinson by going with a "Néo-Traditionnel" Style.

The results: Unemployment divided by 3, new-buisneses increased by 150%, real estate value increased, now reaching Paris prices. Crime rate dropped significantly and the city received the European trophy of the best urban development in Europe.

Le Plessis-Robinson Before:


Le Plessis-Robinson After:









And voilà, It's not perfect but i think it's better than this ugly social-buildings, ho and if you wonder where the people from the old social buildings where placed, they where given the choice to get an apartment in the new-city and 87% of them said yes.
Whole thread dedicated to it: LE PLESSIS-ROBINSON | The European Neo-Traditional Example?
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