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Old January 25th, 2014, 01:59 AM   #2161
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While I tend to be very critical on this thread, i must say that the proportions are amazing for an eastern European building of the sorts.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 06:44 PM   #2162
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New details on Tribeca condo Reade Chambers
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/11/...eade-chambers/



Reade Chambers, a new six-story Tribeca condominium building developed by a partnership between SK Development and Ironstate Development, will have 17 units, three of them penthouses, according to a spokesperson for the developers.

Asking prices start at $1.4 million for the apartments, which will range from one- to four-bedrooms, the spokesperson said. Goldstein, Hill & West is serving as architect of record, while Selldorf Architects is handling interior design.

Bruce Ehrmann and Andrew Anderson of Douglas Elliman Development Marketing are the exclusive sales agents for the building at 71 Reade Street, which also goes by the address 87 Chambers Street. Sales are expected to launch early next year, with an opening date of early 2015.

The development site can accommodate up to about 80,000 square feet of residential space, as previously reported. — Mark Maurer



Details, Starchitect Revealed For New Reade Street Condo
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/1...reet_condo.php
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Old January 26th, 2014, 06:50 PM   #2163
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Old January 26th, 2014, 08:47 PM   #2164
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Old January 26th, 2014, 09:01 PM   #2165
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Villa with River View - Hamburg, Germany (Built 2011)





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Old January 26th, 2014, 09:08 PM   #2166
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Also, I had to re post this because the building is absolutely stunning!
Fantastic new building, so very New York City unlike some of the crap being put up in London at the moment which look more like they belong in a place like Dubai.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 09:19 PM   #2167
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I'm going to point our whats wrong with this bulding here:
First of all the use of materials is wrong! Using plaster as cladding and painting it
just does not work, it should be be natural stone to give an authentic look. Using the plaster does actually give it the Disneyland-look.
Also what bothers strongly is the extensive use of rain gutters, the contrast between the paint and the gutters is too strong and makes the building look wierd. Apart from these facts the building actually looks quite nice, the details look authentic and the proportions aswell.
I think you're referring to the downpipes not the gutters and these could easily be repainted so as not to stand out. Painted cladding (cement/plaster) is not uncommon in older buildings and has nothing to do with Disneyland though I agree natural stone always looks better. Considering some of the aberrations put up in the former USSR this is actually a decent building and hopefully a portent of better things to come.
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Old January 26th, 2014, 11:18 PM   #2168
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Old January 27th, 2014, 12:13 AM   #2169
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There are more examples of kitch here than real tastefull architecture. USSR&Skopje horror has destroyed this thread.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 12:32 AM   #2170
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I'm going to point our whats wrong with this bulding here:
First of all the use of materials is wrong! Using plaster as cladding and painting it
just does not work, it should be be natural stone to give an authentic look. Using the plaster does actually give it the Disneyland-look.
Also what bothers strongly is the extensive use of rain gutters, the contrast between the paint and the gutters is too strong and makes the building look wierd. Apart from these facts the building actually looks quite nice, the details look authentic and the proportions aswell.
I would say the balconies have ruined the building more than the plaster did. I'm not an architect but I'm not sure if even the proportions are right. Could you elaborate on that please?
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Old January 27th, 2014, 12:53 AM   #2171
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There are more examples of kitch here than real tastefull architecture. USSR&Skopje horror has destroyed this thread.
This Beograd again and again... We here in the Balkans are tired of Beograd anyway.

Anyway, the last photos of the hotel are quite good,
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Old January 27th, 2014, 01:11 AM   #2172
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Old January 27th, 2014, 01:17 AM   #2173
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This Beograd again and again... We here in the Balkans are tired of Beograd anyway.

Anyway, the last photos of the hotel are quite good,
First of all, don't take it so personally as if I have something against you, Skopje or Macedonia. I don't. If anyone has bad feelings against Macedonians, the last ones you should look at is Serbians, who are very fond of you actually.

Secondly, what I do have something against is kitch, and the more close it is to me, the more I hate it. The hotel you mentioned (Solun presumably) is perhaps a not so striking example of kitch as some other buildings in Skopje, but it is still quite kitchy IMO. An architect would be able to explain it in more detail, but from what I can see, use of materials (plaster) and shapes (that tumor on the last floor per example) is enough to classify this in the same cathegory as other Skopje 2014 buildings.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 01:36 AM   #2174
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Here's what I recommend, you can voice your critique here - but only if you can provide a better example than what is shown. The example must also be neo historic in context and constructed in a time frame of < 30 years.

It's so easy for you to come in here and negate these buildings but then not provide a better example. Do you think that finding these projects comes easy? It doesn't. We are living in a modernist world where few traditional buildings are built anymore.. I spend a lot of time searching for these projects and I'm sure that the same can be said for the other contributors here, so don't be so critical.
There are many good examples posted on this thread. I'll re-post some for you:

Germany, 90's.

California

Virginia, 2003.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 02:42 AM   #2175
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The biggest problem with some of the buildings is the workmanship I think. Not everyone has the money to built perfectly designed and constructed buildings though. It would therefore be more reasonable to compare these buildings to more modern ones in the same city. For those examples from the US there must have been a lot of money available without doubt.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 08:05 AM   #2176
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Seems to be a renovation, can you give as a building date or something else that proves this to be a new building?


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I'm going to point our whats wrong with this bulding here:

First of all the use of materials is wrong! Using plaster as cladding and painting it

just does not work, it should be be natural stone to give an authentic look. Using the plaster does actually give it the Disneyland-look.

Also what bothers strongly is the extensive use of rain gutters, the contrast between the paint and the gutters is too strong and makes the building look wierd. Apart from these facts the building actually looks quite nice, the details look authentic and the proportions aswell.
Everything is right with that building, even the rain gutters look good. Its i question of personal taste. And coloring plaster was/is just normal for buildings of all centuries. the "not coloring plaster" in a wide range is of modernist doctrine!
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Old January 27th, 2014, 08:41 AM   #2177
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Old January 27th, 2014, 08:53 AM   #2178
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Yeah!!!... i mean, NO !

First one is really kitchy, the ones below are better but still out of proportion. A good example why mass realestade speculative architecture and historicism will never work together. Money always wins over beauty :/
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I actually liked the first one the most
but all three look good to me
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The biggest problem with some of the buildings is the workmanship I think. Not everyone has the money to built perfectly designed and constructed buildings though. It would therefore be more reasonable to compare these buildings to more modern ones in the same city. For those examples from the US there must have been a lot of money available without doubt.
Well if they don't have money for quality materials then it is better that they don't build it at all.
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