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Old March 20th, 2014, 06:10 AM   #2881
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Russia is a multinational state. In addition to Russians in Russia there are over 100 peoples. Tatar ethnic group belongs to the Turkic group. Kazan is the capital of the Tatar autonomy. In Kazan are mainly Tatar architects.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 06:40 AM   #2882
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Nice. Well my heritage is Greek. I am from an ancient coastal Greek town in southwestern Turkey. However I know there are some people of Tatar descent in Turkey. You can easily spot them because they look kind of Asian There are also people of Bosnian, Georgian, Kurdish, Arabic, Bulgarian descents. Turkey is pretty diverse actually but everyone calls themselves Turkish regardless of their heritage.

Why don't you post some nicer buildings from Kazan? Since you know the region, I am sure you can find better examples.
Look closely - it's not my publication. Russia is a huge country, as a continent. What exists in Russia, not necessarily belongs to the Russian national culture. And it's a shame not to know. In Russia there are many national schools of architecture, and I'm not responsible for them. My publications devoted mainly traditional Russian architecture, which is based on a Slavic Christian traditions. So Your remark to the address of Russian culture is incorrect and insulting.

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Old March 20th, 2014, 07:04 AM   #2883
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Geez.. I know it is not your publication. I know Russia is the biggest and the bestest. I just thought since you know the region, you can find better examples than Hen Kandi does. So that we would see better examples from Russia with your help. I am trying to make a civil conversation with you. Chill dude. I didn't say anything bad about your culture. Actually I didn't say anything about your culture at all. Too much anger for no reason
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Old March 20th, 2014, 07:27 AM   #2884
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Geez.. I know it is not your publication. I know Russia is the biggest and the bestest. I just thought since you know the region, you can find better examples than Hen Kandi does. So that we would see better examples from Russia with your help. I am trying to make a civil conversation with you. Chill dude. I didn't say anything bad about your culture. Actually I didn't say anything about your culture at all. Too much anger for no reason
Sorry. But in this forum thread some participants hang humiliating shortcuts in the address of Russian architecture. Unfortunately they don't understand that Russian is not always related to the traditionally Russian. I'm tired of these attacks. So please, do not mention Russian in General, but pay attention to specific regions or cities of our big country.

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Old March 20th, 2014, 07:39 AM   #2885
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Sorry. But in this forum thread some participants hang humiliating shortcuts in the address of Russian architecture. Unfortunately they don't understand that Russian is not always related to the traditionally Russian. I'm tired of these attacks.
I understand. I didn't mean to attack anyone I just didn't like the last few examples from Russia. We all have the right to dislike things, just like you dislike the hotel I posted. Don't be too sensitive about it I am going to visit Moscow this summer
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Old March 20th, 2014, 07:47 AM   #2886
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I understand. I didn't mean to attack anyone I just didn't like the last few examples from Russia. We all have the right to dislike things, just like you dislike the hotel I posted. Don't be too sensitive about it I am going to visit Moscow this summer
Thank You for understanding. I wish You pleasant impressions
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Old March 20th, 2014, 11:41 AM   #2887
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Horrible. But again I generally dislike Russian architecture as a whole.
Do you mean modern or all-time Russian architecture?
There were plenty of styles and approaches in Russian architecture so it's hard to describe it as a whole (no matter, in good or bad way). Do you refer to some specific style?
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Old March 20th, 2014, 04:41 PM   #2888
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That Russian wannabe-classical architecture is just tacky!


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Old March 20th, 2014, 06:52 PM   #2889
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Old March 20th, 2014, 07:41 PM   #2890
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Old March 20th, 2014, 08:36 PM   #2891
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Old March 21st, 2014, 05:19 AM   #2892
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Old March 21st, 2014, 12:20 PM   #2893
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Dominion Building - Cologne, Germany (Built 2009)




http://www.kollhoff.de/en/PROJECTS/B...n-Cologne.html
Interesting that so many love especially the Building in cologne which is the worst of those posted of Kollhoff.

It shows exactely why modern proportions and historicism dont work together well. Dont get me wrong, the modern part is nice within its own proportions and has great craftmanship, material and detail, but as you see the direct comparison to the historic part it is easy to spot where its not working at all, best seen in the round corner, where the windos get horizontal instead of vertical. they seem to flat/small and out of proportion. imagine just another meter of ceiling hight and everything would be ok.

Its one of the few buidlings of kollhoff that i dont like to much.
The building in Hamburg and Cheminitz on the other side i would consider as some of his best works.


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Most of those british buildings look just great and those "russian countryhouses" are nearly perfect too. Sadly what ruins them are those large windows that ignore the buildings proportions in genernal.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/28/ms5u.jpg

This one instead is just great! And together with that administrative building in Moscow shows that there really is good neo historicist architecture in Russia.

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This is not Russian architecture, but your native Tatar. Kazan is the capital of Tatarstan.
You're really wrong on that entazis. Russia might be a multinational state, but its minorities are under russian rule for a long time and for that russian architecture is dominant.
That building in Kazan is a direct derivative of socialist neoclassizism.
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Old March 21st, 2014, 12:21 PM   #2894
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Do you have better pictures? It looks pretty good to me.
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Old March 21st, 2014, 05:11 PM   #2895
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Old March 21st, 2014, 05:46 PM   #2896
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Old March 21st, 2014, 06:27 PM   #2897
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You're really wrong on that entazis. Russia might be a multinational state, but its minorities are under russian rule for a long time and for that russian architecture is dominant.
That building in Kazan is a direct derivative of socialist neoclassizism.
Sorry, but You are not right. As you can tell about a very large country as a whole, never having been in it? I agree with You that building in Kazan is an attempt to emulate the architecture of the Soviet Neoclassicism. However, this attempt is not directly derived from high style, which was created by outstanding architects, who received education in the academies of the Russian Empire before the First world war. I don't like this building, too. This is a sample illiterate architecture. But such examples from different countries of the illiterate follow different styles are very many presents on this forum thread. One cannot agree that the modern samples of Neoclassicism in China or India are always a direct derivative of European styles. Most of these have national and local features. In Russia today there is no centralized control architecture, and Kazan is one of the centers of Islamic culture with its national peculiarities. For this reason, I agree with You, when You spend architectural analysis of individual buildings, but do not make incorrect generalizations about the country in General.
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Dosso Dossi Hotel Istanbul
Not ideally proportioned, but really interesting. Any idea who the architect was?

Which neo-classical architects are active in Turkey? I'd love to add some there: New Classical Architects @Wiki
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I love how in the UK even social housing, while obviously not the highest quality, still looks very elaborate. That's the opposite approach to Germany. Here, social housing looks quite high-quality but the design is just awfully bland.
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 09:44 AM   #2900
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Not ideally proportioned, but really interesting. Any idea who the architect was?

Which neo-classical architects are active in Turkey? I'd love to add some there: New Classical Architects @Wiki
That's exactly what I think! It is awkward proportion wise but it still looks fine and cozy. It also blends well within Istanbul.

I have no idea who the architect was. I don't know any Turkish architect that specifically works on neoclassical designs. The national board of architects in Turkey is very much opposed to build anything with traditional lines. However I will forward your question to my Turkish friends. They might know more than I do. Sorry I couldn't be any more help as of now.
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