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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:12 AM   #4341
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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:18 AM   #4342
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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:42 AM   #4343
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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:53 AM   #4344
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Old October 20th, 2014, 05:07 AM   #4345
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Old October 20th, 2014, 06:11 AM   #4346
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Here are two examples from the Richmond, VA, USA area:

1. First is the Henry Clay Inn in Ashland, VA. (That link takes you to a Google Street View of the property).

It was built in 1992 to replicate the Georgian-style hotels that previously occupied the area (the first hotel was built in 1858 but was destroyed by fire in 1901. The next hotel burned in 1946.).

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Old October 20th, 2014, 06:17 AM   #4347
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The second is a property called River Road Manor just outside of Richmond, VA.

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"The estate took more than half a decade to complete, with construction beginning in 1981 and ultimately completed in 1987. Bower said he hired an architectural historian to assure the home’s many features were properly documented."
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Sitting on a 60 acre parcel of land, this house has 40 rooms, 11 baths and 5 half-baths. Its many over-the-top features include 24-karat gold fixtures, Italian marble flooring, marble baseboards, 18 feet columns with 23- karat gold Corinthian capitals, a sauna, a steam room, and 12 inch modillion block egg and dart crown molding. The house has a separate floor consisting entirely of servants' quarters and is the equivalent of a residence in itself with a kitchen, living room, with a fireplace, library, four bedrooms and two baths. In addition, River Run Manor has a lower ballroom that can seat 150 people for dinner. Features in this 24’ x 39’ ballroom include a Waterford-style chandelier of antique Strauss crystals, handcrafted red oak spiral staircase and balcony , Louis XV carved marble fireplace and 24 feet from floor to ceiling. It was built by Taylor & Parrish (T&P), a contractor who frequently ordered millwork from Beckstoffer's.





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It's currently for sale for $7.9 million if any of you are looking for a new summer house.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 01:47 PM   #4348
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Postmodernist could be anything, Socialist was just the imposition of Stalinist architecture in China just as the West and Japan did during the colonial era, and Art Deco isn't a classical style but early modernism in my view.
I see you are an expert at the art of non-sequitur

I am referring to the period and style that each building I listed merged traditional Chinese elements with, if you'd bothered to look up the examples. You claimed Chinese architecture was never successfully integrated with Western or modernist forms, and I provided some counterexamples, simple as that.

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No, but pure traditional Chinese architecture devoid of all Western influence which everyone accepts would be very limited in the type of use.
Okay... so? Nobody claimed that "pure traditional Chinese architecture devoid of all Western influence" could be applicable to all types of buildings in the modern world. But even if it were true this does not prevent traditional Chinese architectural elements from being incorporable in most modern building types.

Also, traditional Western buildings prior to modernism are also arguably very limited in their types of use. It is true that the West was first to industrialize and thus first to develop modernist architecture designed for the types of buildings in our modern society, but is this really a point worth making?

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AYou missed the point entirely. I didn't cherry pick the Forbidden City as an example, rather erbse referenced it and I refuted.
Ummm yeah someone else mentioned it so then you used it as a SOLE example to support your claim... how is that not cherry-picking?
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Old October 20th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #4349
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Commercial district built in the Lingnan Style



Commercial area being built in Ming/Qing Northern Style





Modern building complex with Yunnan Style influence


Modern building in Gan (Jiangxi) Style



Modern township with apartments, Huizhou Style influence



Modern building in Xiang (Hunan) Style







Postmodern integration of traditional southern styles with modern residential architecture.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 05:59 PM   #4350
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Pissybits, great post!

I noticed that some of your links are broken/delayed. Perhaps you could try hosting them on imageshack , photobucket, imgur, etc
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Old October 20th, 2014, 07:08 PM   #4351
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Pissybits, thanks to your posts everybody can see that Chinese may built wonderful neotraditional buildings...if their (building) architects are influenced by their own architectural heritage, not by blind copying of European or Russian architecture. Thanks a lot.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 07:39 PM   #4352
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Old October 20th, 2014, 08:01 PM   #4353
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Yuhuan County People's Court building - Taizhou, Zhejiang, China














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Old October 21st, 2014, 12:33 AM   #4354
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Old October 21st, 2014, 04:21 AM   #4355
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Old October 21st, 2014, 04:25 AM   #4356
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Old October 21st, 2014, 04:55 AM   #4357
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I am referring to the period and style that each building I listed merged traditional Chinese elements with, if you'd bothered to look up the examples. You claimed Chinese architecture was never successfully integrated with Western or modernist forms, and I provided some counterexamples, simple as that.
I am well aware of the examples you stated. If somebody posted Beijing West Railway Station on this thread, they would be tarred and feathered over how it's "cheesy postmodernism" and looks completely faux. While it seemingly evokes traditional elements, it's not a classical style building.

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Okay... so? Nobody claimed that "pure traditional Chinese architecture devoid of all Western influence" could be applicable to all types of buildings in the modern world. But even if it were true this does not prevent traditional Chinese architectural elements from being incorporable in most modern building types.
You'll be surprised to know how many nuts lurk around here who think westernization in the East is evil, and should have kept with their isolation policies.

Did I not say the Xiyang Lou are good examples of traditional elements being incorporated into functional buildings? Also, the examples you posted are mostly low-profile residential structures similar to shikumen. I have yet to see a grand public building with traditional Chinese elements from the pre-Mao era, or within the recent government building craze that looks like it could be from the former.

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Also, traditional Western buildings prior to modernism are also arguably very limited in their types of use. It is true that the West was first to industrialize and thus first to develop modernist architecture designed for the types of buildings in our modern society, but is this really a point worth making?
How far are we going back? Medieval castles yes, but Renaissance buildings are very adaptable, which explains why old parts of cities in Western Europe can serve a wide range of modern functions. Comparable Chinese buildings are only ever museums.

Can we please stop this argument... again? If anybody complains about European buildings in China, redirect them back some pages back where another hipster complained.

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Pissybits, thanks to your posts everybody can see that Chinese may built wonderful neotraditional buildings...if their (building) architects are influenced by their own architectural heritage, not by blind copying of European or Russian architecture. Thanks a lot.
Hey, we actually have a whole thread dedicated to contemporary Chinese architecture in traditional styles, check it out!

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Old October 21st, 2014, 02:03 PM   #4360
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I am well aware of the examples you stated. If somebody posted Beijing West Railway Station on this thread, they would be tarred and feathered over how it's "cheesy postmodernism" and looks completely faux. While it seemingly evokes traditional elements, it's not a classical style building.
I posted it as an example to refute your claim that Chinese architecture has not been successfully merged with modernist or Western styles, the architectural merits of the building itself is not the subject of debate. Now you are just making an objection by saying something irrelevant to the original discussion.

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You'll be surprised to know how many nuts lurk around here who think westernization in the East is evil, and should have kept with their isolation policies.
I know there's cultural relativists out there and that some of their views may be questionable, but I right now I think some of views you expressed here are questionable.

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Did I not say the Xiyang Lou are good examples of traditional elements being incorporated into functional buildings?

Not that I'm aware of.

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Also, the examples you posted are mostly low-profile residential structures similar to shikumen.
And how is this pertinent?

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I have yet to see a grand public building with traditional Chinese elements from the pre-Mao era
Wuhan University, which I included in my original list of buildings you supposedly knew all about...

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How far are we going back? Medieval castles yes, but Renaissance buildings are very adaptable, which explains why old parts of cities in Western Europe can serve a wide range of modern functions. Comparable Chinese buildings are only ever museums.
Well people do still live in actual old buildings in China you know... The shame is that local governments don't really value preservation so a lot of the real old buildings get torn down to make way for new development unless they get listed as museums. To say that all existing old traditional buildings in China only serve as museums is absurd in itself, and yet you try to base some argument on this unsustainable assumption.

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Can we please stop this argument...
You can't make your argument first and then ask me to stop at the end of your post
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