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Old October 14th, 2012, 02:48 AM   #521
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Though at the end of the day, I believe Western architecture belongs in the West.
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Nothing againts China or other country but I think is weird

some of those reconstructions look nice but others are really poor (design and materials)
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Old October 14th, 2012, 04:29 AM   #522
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Old October 14th, 2012, 04:45 AM   #523
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Old October 14th, 2012, 06:18 PM   #524
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Agreed.

Though at the end of the day, I believe Western architecture belongs in the West.
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Nothing againts China or other country but I think is weird

some of those reconstructions look nice but others are really poor (design and materials)
At the same time, some place like Shanghai, Macau, or Manilla can't be imagined without traditional European architecture.

My view on architecture is as with any form of art, if you can get it fit and do so in a tasteful/relevant manner, there is no reason that you can't accommodate space for it. Of course it should not be there to supplant the original style of the region, but rather adapt to it in a complimentary manner. Or on topic with the thread, continue the trend with neighboring existing buildings.
It can go the other way as well: for the same reason we have Egyptian-revival architecture, Chinese interior design, and Japanese gardens in the West.

Granted, at the same time, most of the traditional western-style buildings going up in Asia are being done so for the sake of kitsch. In which case, I do agree with the sentiments.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 12:49 AM   #525
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At the same time, some place like Shanghai, Macau, or Manilla can't be imagined without traditional European architecture.
Of course not, but I think the reason that it fits in well is because they are a product of a very specific period of time when Westerners had a lot more power and influence in those regions.
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My view on architecture is as with any form of art, if you can get it fit and do so in a tasteful/relevant manner, there is no reason that you can't accommodate space for it. Of course it should not be there to supplant the original style of the region, but rather adapt to it in a complimentary manner. Or on topic with the thread, continue the trend with neighboring existing buildings.
I agree, which is probably why I don't like architecture that seeks to disrupt the flow or pattern of an area.
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It can go the other way as well: for the same reason we have Egyptian-revival architecture, Chinese interior design, and Japanese gardens in the West.
True, but in many of those cases, use of such style seems like it is done for fun and exoticism rather than for timeless architecture. There are certain parts within the Western world where you will find Asian architecture not because of exoticism, but because of small Asian populations, as can be seen in San Francisco's China town.


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Old October 15th, 2012, 06:08 AM   #526
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True, but in many of those cases, use of such style seems like it is done for fun and exoticism rather than for timeless architecture.
Yes, but is that not one way that architecture evolves? Communication opens up new perspectives, people like what they see, styles are implemented.

Even after the Reconquistada, Moorish styles were still incorporated into Spanish architecture for a while even though the culture was at odds with Castilian values. However, the Spaniards still considered them aesthetically pleasing. The same idea could be applied since trade routes were first established; just now it is at a far more global scale and far less gradual pace.
If anything, a lot of the high-decal architectural styles during the early 20th century (art nouveau, art deco, etc) that we value today would probably have not been possible without influence from the east.
Hell, the modern skyscraper itself could be something that can be considered western in origin, despite the noticeable distinctness seen in Asian styles today.

Of course if, without substantial background reason or symbolism, you just plop down an exact replica of a certain architectural style that goes against existing forms just for the lolz, then, yes, the effects can be jarring. But that is not to say that styles from across the world still can't be implemented tastefully.
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Old October 16th, 2012, 12:20 AM   #527
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Unfortunately, Notre Dame is the only architcture shool that teaches design traditional and classical design. Because of the lack of education available, there are many, if not more, bad examples of traditional architecture in the USA.
Robert Stern is dean of Architecture at Yale University, and if anyone knows the principals of classical architecture he does. I have seen bad design in the U.S., mainly in some nouveau riche domestic architecture in Los Angeles (not the older houses which are always correct). However I have also seen countless excellent examples of new buildings in traditional style that are absolutely correct. If there are more bad examples than in other countries it's only because there is more of just about everything in that country!
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Old October 17th, 2012, 10:13 AM   #528
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I really like western architecture because I am a big fan it. but one thing I mark is that it does not look like traditional because of elegant, beautiful and wonderful designs.
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New Mormon Temple in Tijuana Mexico is an interesting design clearly influenced by the Spanish Colonial style.

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Old October 18th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #530
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This is the original 1960's Mormon Temple.



This is what it is being turned into.

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Another new Mormon Temple, Fort Collins Colorado

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Another Mormon Temple, Hartford Connecticut.

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Old October 18th, 2012, 11:34 AM   #533
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New Mormon Temple...Paris France. Who would have thought?

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Old October 18th, 2012, 04:56 PM   #534
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This looks horrible!
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I may despise the Mormon religion but they sure do have some nice architecture.
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New Mormon Temple in Tijuana Mexico is an interesting design clearly influenced by the Spanish Colonial style.

Very beautiful!
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Old October 19th, 2012, 10:12 AM   #537
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This looks horrible!
I agree, it's so heavy and brutally designed like some demented dwarve's dream home.
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This is what it is being turned into.

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Looks very soviet :/
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Old October 19th, 2012, 04:34 PM   #539
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First time I've seen people calling art deco horrible!
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I agree, it's so heavy and brutally designed like some demented dwarve's dream home.
What? Thats not brutalistic at all, thats clearly art deco and a good example of it too.
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