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Old August 11th, 2015, 09:27 AM   #6101
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That canopy thing is a traditional Turkish element based upon the local architecture. There will be some sort of pediment or canopy but I havent started the roof part structure so it is yet to be determined. I will update as it develops.
The problem is, that the rest of the structure is very french in its desing, and for that reason the canopy loks totaly out of pace and more important, totaly out of scale.

Is the building situated at a streetcorner? If so, you should try to shape a tower at the corner roof section. You could extend pilaster with two pillars, join them with an arch or gable and cover that with a dome.
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Old August 11th, 2015, 09:38 AM   #6102
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If I may humbly offer one suggestion. Please be sure that the project utilizes traditional mouth blown window glass rather than the modern float glass.

If you're unfamiliar with this, I'd recommend to spend some time doing research.

http://www.restorationglass.com/anti...ndow-glass.cfm

Hed Kandi, float glass is typical for buildings in late 19th and early 20th century. And as this building steps in these design lineage, it is pretty much recommed to use typical float glass for the windows. Mouth blown glas would fit if its a timber frame, building, or something that uses mediaval building stile, but its not.
What should be prevented is the use of high reflecting glas, that is often used on "neo" traditional desings and ruins everything.
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Old August 11th, 2015, 11:13 AM   #6103
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The problem is, that the rest of the structure is very french in its desing, and for that reason the canopy loks totaly out of pace and more important, totaly out of scale.

Is the building situated at a streetcorner? If so, you should try to shape a tower at the corner roof section. You could extend pilaster with two pillars, join them with an arch or gable and cover that with a dome.
I was aiming for more East Mediterranean-Levant rather than French. Good to know I still need to work on it.

Secondly I did not start the roof structure yet. There will be a whole bunch of stuff added to it. Also there will be a contemporary roof top lounge. The form of the building is triangle. Only 2 sides face streets. Both sides will be identical. It will be easier to discuss once the facade is completed.
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Old August 11th, 2015, 11:34 AM   #6104
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I was aiming for more East Mediterranean-Levant rather than French. Good to know I still need to work on it.
There is not much difference between eastern mediterranain and western mediterrenian late 19th century desings. If you take a look at Baku, Istanbul or Thesaloniki you'll see what i mean. The Buildings of this period in eastern mediterenaean mostly borrow from french, spanish and italian expressions of traditionalist stiles. The only exception is Neobyzantine stile, which you find way more often in eastern mediterranian than in the west, especially on civil architecture. I said it looks french because you used red brick and someting that loked like white limestone for materials and of course your details, window framing etc. Your building could easily fit the french or italian riviera and wouldnt even stick out (in a good way) but it could also fit into spain or anywhere else on the southern coastline of europe.
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Old August 11th, 2015, 12:06 PM   #6105
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I do appreciate your words, Tolbert. I used brick and limestone because they are the local building materials in Eskisehir therefore much cheaper and easier to find. I am from Istanbul and as far as I know, starting from the late 18th century, Ottoman families of Italian, Armenian and Greek(i am one of these) descent mostly operated in the construction industry. So yes you are right however, even though the Turkish architecture of that era is mostly European, there is that small tint of orient that I am trying to capture. Even though the design patterns of that era is very similar all across the southern Europe, there still that distinctive charecter of design in Istanbul which makes the city somewhat different compared to other southern European cities. The ones who have been to Istanbul probably have realized the fact that there is that orient feel even in the Beyoglu district which was built in late 18th century by the Levant architects of the western European descents.

BTW dont even get me started on Baku. Everything they build is horribly kitsch and random nowadays. Building a new Paris between Russia and Iran is just a ridiculous idea to say the least. Copying another culture very different than yours without even adding anything on it and its traditions gets you nowhere. Building a Haussman town in mid of nowhere doesn't make a good city. I guess that is how it works in dictatorships though.

Nowhere near the finish line but this is a bigger picture of the ongoing design.

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Old August 11th, 2015, 10:41 PM   #6106
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OMG, I love it! O: It's a perfect mixture of Russian/Orthodox baroque and Beaux Arts.
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Old August 11th, 2015, 10:53 PM   #6107
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BTW dont even get me started on Baku. Everything they build is horribly kitsch and random nowadays. Building a new Paris between Russia and Iran is just a ridiculous idea to say the least. Copying another culture very different than yours without even adding anything on it and its traditions gets you nowhere. Building a Haussman town in mid of nowhere doesn't make a good city. I guess that is how it works in dictatorships though.

Nowhere near the finish line but this is a bigger picture of the ongoing design.
I really like your atempt to give the building a local touch like those in Istanbul. I think youre on a very good way. Just dont try to much that will distrupt the grandeur of your building

Could you give us a screen of the sharp corner of the building? Would lov to se it.

Incidentally, i meant the original western european inspired buildings in Baku, not those modern abominations they are building all over the place
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Old August 12th, 2015, 02:28 AM   #6108
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Old August 12th, 2015, 12:05 PM   #6109
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BTW dont even get me started on Baku. Everything they build is horribly kitsch and random nowadays. Building a new Paris between Russia and Iran is just a ridiculous idea to say the least. Copying another culture very different than yours without even adding anything on it and its traditions gets you nowhere. Building a Haussman town in mid of nowhere doesn't make a good city. I guess that is how it works in dictatorships though.
You should not go that far with your prejudice about Baku.

Baku is a city with a historical heritage of European architecture and lifestyle. By the end of the 19th century Baku was a global oil center where the Nobels and the Rotschilds to name a few did their money. Back then Baku became one of the main cities in the Russian Empire. At the same time the city got a lot of European style builgings, Opera house and many others:















There are also historical buildings combining both traditional and European elements:











Today Baku is only trying to preserve its historical heritage and to improve some Soviet era housing built in downtown areas. Furthermore, in order to keep the ensemble up Baku is also trying to build some new buildings in "old style", especially in downtown areas. Of course there are some kitch and tasteless samples, however, there are very good quality ones too:



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Old August 12th, 2015, 12:13 PM   #6110
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Kusura bakma kardesim. Yeni yapilan cakma parisian binalardan bahsediyor sanmistim.

Benim favorim bu. Belediye binasiymis sanirim.

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Old August 12th, 2015, 12:18 PM   #6111
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Kusura bakma kardesim. Yeni yapilan cakma parisian binalardan bahsediyor sanmistim.
Evet ama senin söylediğin o "Paris semti" özel proje olan Baku White City-nin bir parçasıdır. O binaların şehire uyum sağlamasıda çok zor olmayacak bir hedefdir, çünki şehrin merkezi zaten bu tarz tarihi binalardan oluşuyor.

Lütfen Baküyü arap ve başka Ortadoğu kentleriyle karıştırma!
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Old August 12th, 2015, 12:25 PM   #6112
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Evet ama senin söylediğin o "Paris semti" özel proje olan Baku White City-nin bir parçasıdır. O binaların şehire uyum sağlamasıda çok zor olmayacak bir hedefdir, çünki şehrin merkezi zaten bu tarz tarihi binalardan oluşuyor.

Lütfen Baküyü arap ve başka Ortadoğu kentleriyle karıştırma!
Arkadasim Baku'yu bi yerle karistirmiyorum. Azeriler i de cok severim ama maalesef bi mimar olarak ne dusundugumu soylememe engel olmuyor bu durum. Ne yazik ki o parisian projesi bugun her akli basinda mimarin karsi olacagi bi projedir. Baku de cok daha yerel,cok daha kendine ozgu yapilar var. Taklitler sadece gercegine deger katar. Sovyet Rusya mimarisi ile Haussman Paris'inin ne alakasi var. Kendimizi kandirmayalim lutfen.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 12:28 PM   #6113
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Sorry for the Turkish dialog. Won't be repeated.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 02:27 PM   #6114
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The stuff in Baku is quite good, with a bit of wear and tear it should look excellent.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #6115
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New York again. A new 14 story building. Construction is due to start next year.





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Old August 12th, 2015, 07:06 PM   #6116
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Old August 13th, 2015, 12:09 AM   #6117
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I really like your attempt to give the building a local touch like those in Istanbul. I think you're on a very good way. Just don't try to much that will disrupt the grandeur of your building

Could you give us a screen of the sharp corner of the building? Would love to see it.
It is not very clear and not finished but somewhat gives an idea of the form.

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Old August 13th, 2015, 05:41 AM   #6118
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The University of Georgia's Correll Hall is nearing completion:





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Old August 13th, 2015, 11:12 AM   #6119
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This one is quite OK indeed. Is it really brand new? Looks absolutely like late 19th century building.
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Old August 13th, 2015, 05:21 PM   #6120
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