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Old January 20th, 2016, 08:47 PM   #6861
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Old January 21st, 2016, 09:33 PM   #6862
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Are people seriously bashing the House with Chimeras in here? XD It's an Art Nouveau icon!
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Old January 24th, 2016, 03:23 PM   #6863
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Is neo-ottoman architecture adequate for this thread? Like, the new campus of the International Balkan University in Skopje, Macedonia, that is u/c and it's Turkish investment.



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photo by the official facebook page of the International Balkan University


An older panoramic photo of the whole campus complex



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Old January 24th, 2016, 08:23 PM   #6864
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Old January 24th, 2016, 09:45 PM   #6865
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I like the designs!
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Old January 25th, 2016, 06:02 PM   #6866
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The last two examples look rather tacky to me.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 06:03 PM   #6867
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Matares - Tipaza

Suivant la forme d'un Ksar traditionnel, le complexe touristique de Matares a été édifié durant la fin des années 1960.
Architecte: Ferdinand Pouillon


Tipaza Matares by magic_med, sur Flickr


Matares by magic_med, sur Flickr
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Old January 25th, 2016, 06:08 PM   #6868
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Algeria: Neo-Traditional architecture

This seems better than the Skopje campus in being more faithful to traditional construction:
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University center El Hadj Moussa Ag Akhamoukh, Tamanrasset. 2006

A whole new district in a traditional Algerian/maghreb style:
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Ksar Tafilelt, At Isguen, Ghardaia. 2004 by Fondation Amidoul
























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Old January 26th, 2016, 11:57 AM   #6869
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Don't be so purist!
Those buildings in Kazan are certainly not cheaply built they attempt and they succeed to be artistic even if blattlement is oversized and are awfully painted.

Of course there are overcharged and a mix of different styles, but how come you approuve that truly cheap gypsum board Concord City Hall and criticize this?

Yes, battlement is oversize and it's too charged for average western taste, but it's arty. Is much better than any Mc-CityHall.

Myself, with my western mindset, formated by French all-white rational architecture use to see Italian ochre cities as not beautiful. Prague and Karlovy Vary used to look like pastiches to me. Not to say last Ottoman palaces or whatever had eastern influences; but then I opened my mind and can appreciate it and got to understand it.
I hope you can do the same.

Anyways, I have to confess that I would have preferred those Kiev buildings without painting or stucco or at least with clearer colours, and so for the Russian example. Is a personal limitation. But of course I don't leave in that weather, nor have that colorful tradition.
I too have never found new Russian buildings deserving of such criticism.

I think a common theme in Russian architecture is bold, often exaggerated ornamentation. From old-style onion domes and decorative buttressing, the polychromatism and liberal use of classical forms of Russian Baroque, Art Nouveau distortions and dramatically oversized sculpture, and the monumental scale and heroism of Stalinist neoclassicism, it is a continuously running current. Many of these buildings, if not indistinguishable from previous styles, are designed in the same spirit. Russia has its fair share of bad eggs amongst its "new traditional" architecture, the genuinely kitsch and tasteless. But there are many gems. They may not be academically correct, but they maintain an overall sense of harmony, proportion, and a common heritage with their historical antecedents. It is traditional architecture in the truest sense-- architecture working within a tradition.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 12:02 PM   #6870
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There was a building I meant to post a while back, but I've completely forgotten what it was. I think it was a palatial residence, or even perhaps an actual palace (of some sort)-- but I'm not sure. A country house, maybe? It could have been an office building or a museum. I have zero clue whatsoever as to where it is. All I know is that it was built in the late 1970s/early-mid 1980s, completely new construction, and I was genuinely surprised to discover it was so modern.

I'll try to remember, and I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it in this thread yet. For now, here's a Russian cathedral:

Cathedral Church of St. Fyodor Ushakov (2006) - Saransk, Republic of Mordovia, Russia











[Photos by Vadim Kondratiev]

To be fair, I find the massing somewhat, well, off, and the arch-shaped tympanum (if you can call it that) window a bit awkward... but boy, does that iconostasis make up for it! Ten, even a hundred times over.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 01:48 PM   #6871
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^ That's lush indeed. Whoa. Can't say I dislike it.

Do you know when it was built?
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Old January 26th, 2016, 07:26 PM   #6872
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I wish more cities would build like this
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Old January 26th, 2016, 09:12 PM   #6873
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New garbage house(!) in Stockholm suburb of Beckomberga. Built 2015 in 20s Swedish grace.



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Old January 26th, 2016, 09:27 PM   #6874
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^ That's lush indeed. Whoa. Can't say I dislike it.

Do you know when it was built?
2006.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 02:41 AM   #6875
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Memorial to the victims of Stalin's oppression, Inigushetia, Russia [1998]





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Old January 29th, 2016, 01:38 AM   #6876
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Interesting thread. Keep on!
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Old January 29th, 2016, 02:27 AM   #6877
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Embassies often, but not always, reflect the architectural style of either the host country or the country operating the embassy. Some examples include:

The Irish farmhouse-inspired Irish embassy to Australia (Canberra, date unknown, architect unknown)



The Pakistani embassy to the US (after 1990, Washington DC)



The Ottoman-style Turkish embassy in Washington, DC



The new Turkish embassy in Mogadishu, Somalia [2015]



Turkish embassy in Qatar, 2013



Papuan embassy to Australia, Canberra, unknown



Proposed Thai embassy in Pakistan



Indian embassy to Australia



Not new, but a nice precedent - American embassy to Australia

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Old January 29th, 2016, 02:55 AM   #6878
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None of these Turkish consulates reflect the reality of the Ottoman classicism. Erdogan is an Islamic megalomaniac and he builds Persian-Arabic architecture everywhere because they are Islamic styles. Ottoman baroque is too European for that bastard.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 03:37 AM   #6879
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None of these Turkish consulates reflect the reality of the Ottoman classicism. Erdogan is an Islamic megalomaniac and he builds Persian-Arabic architecture everywhere because they are Islamic styles. Ottoman baroque is too European for that bastard.
They're actually Balkan Turkish houses like these:



(This below looks just like the Mogadishu one)



If anything, they look more Bulgarian than they do Turkish:

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Old January 30th, 2016, 04:21 AM   #6880
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They're actually Balkan Turkish houses like these:
I understand. I am an architect from Istanbul. There was an Islamic Empire called the "Seljuks". which originated in Persia. These Turkish consulates are the off springs of that Islamic empire of the Seljuks/Persians. Turkey doesn't have much to do with the Seljuks except for a few decades of invasion however, our beloved Islamic dictator Erdogan loves anything Islamic and promotes it worldwide. He doesn't give a damn whether it is Turkish or not. It is good to him as long as it looks hard core Islamic.

Also the vernacular architecture in Bulgaria, Macedonia, Turkey, Bosnia etc are pretty much the same due to the same climate and same construction techniques. I am not even gonna mention that only 100 years ago, all of these countries were one single country.

You need to understand the fact that those "Balkan" or "Turkish" houses are vernacular timber houses. You cannot build large institutions with vernacular architecture. It is not durable and structurally almost impossible.

Those Turkish houses you just posted are from the Bosphorus strait in Istanbul and were in use as summer mansions for the Turkish aristocracy during the late Ottoman era. They have literally nothing to do with the Turkish consulates you previously have posted.

Now, let me show you what the late Ottoman era architecture looks like. You can still see the Middle Eastern orientalist soul but it is western in its core. These are real Ottoman buildings. These reflect the true soul of Turkish architecture along with the vernacular timber housing in outskirts of the city.

Some examples from Istanbul,



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photos from facebook

So the bottom line is, those embassies have nothing to do with Turkish or Balkan architecture and are being built that way because it looks more Islamic and our Islamic dictator loves it. However, even he can't change the history when the history is still standing in Turkey. Perhaps, those consulates would suit Iran or Saudi Arabia better.

I am glad they are helping Somalia though. People should just live the life and try to enjoy it instead of killing each other for the sake of imaginary another life.
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