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Old September 30th, 2016, 07:12 PM   #8001
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I'm aware it's a bit simplistic and repetetive themed boutique hotel, but not bad at all for an African place:

Hemingways Nairobi | Karen

Nairobi forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1613085

Official website: http://www.hemingways-nairobi.com/



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  • Location: Mbagathi Ridge, Karen, Nairobi
  • Developer: Hemingways Group
  • Architect: DSA Architects

The Hemingways Nairobi boutique hotel, located in Karen. Photos by SE9:


Hemingways Nairobi - Karen, Nairobi by SE9, on Flickr


Hemingways Nairobi - Karen, Nairobi by SE9, on Flickr


Hemingways Nairobi - Karen, Nairobi by SE9, on Flickr


Hemingways Nairobi - Karen, Nairobi by SE9, on Flickr


Hemingways Nairobi - Karen, Nairobi by SE9, on Flickr


Hemingways Nairobi - Karen, Nairobi by SE9, on Flickr
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Old September 30th, 2016, 08:00 PM   #8002
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That thing in Kenya is pretty nondescript. Here's some good new traditional architecture from Nairobi, on Knight Frank:





And here's one right in Karen!




This, not that vaguely Floridian stucco, is traditional Kenyan highland architecture.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 08:38 PM   #8003
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Old September 30th, 2016, 11:36 PM   #8004
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Colonial architecture of Africa really can't be described as traditional in many cases, as it varied all the time. There were all kinds of influences, British, German, Dutch, French, Portuguese, etc., and you'll find caribbean-styled buildings all over the place. But I agree, these Knight Frank ones are quite apt from what I've seen from the region (on the web).
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Erbse, by Caribbean style are you referring to colonial architecture? Because that sort of ambiguous, hybrid architecture with a mix of European and non-European influences occurred in a lot of places where European empires expanded, from Haiti to Fiji to Nagasaki to Sri Lanka. There's a lot of it in the Caribbean, because of the very long and early colonial history there, but it's not strictly a Caribbean phenomenon.
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I called it that because of its origins in the Caribbean, but you're right, they can be found anywhere. I was objecting your notion of "vaguely Floridian stucco".
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Old October 1st, 2016, 12:48 AM   #8007
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That example from Knight Frank is typical of colonial-traditional architecture in Kenya (the capital and the highlands in particular).
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Old October 1st, 2016, 01:06 AM   #8008
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Sure. You'll find all sorts of different colonial architecture styles though, when looking for it.
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I called it that because of its origins in the Caribbean, but you're right, they can be found anywhere. I was objecting your notion of "vaguely Floridian stucco".
So the "Caribbean" style you're referring to is what I'm calling the "vaguely Floridian stucco"? Because that style and its association with "resort" communities is much older. You could even tie it back to 19th-century German Bäder architecture in places like Saßnitz and Usedom:



Africa is still kind of finding its footing in terms of traditional "Western" architecture, as are many other non-Western countries. I find this project in Abuja (new construction on Property24) to be pretty decent if a bit German/Polish looking:

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And now for a very different side of South Carolina - The Reserve at Lake Keowee (2005-, images from KW Realty)




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You could even tie it back to 19th-century German Bäder architecture in places like Saßnitz:
That's Bansin (Usedom Island). I renovated two 19th century mansions there, it's an amazing place between sea, historicism and forest. They've had catalogues for these ones, which are modular and still make a great pool for new creations.

The colonial 'caribbean' wooden house similar to the ones shown came up as early as classicism was brought to the colonies in the 18th century. It was modified several times, depending on fashion rather than location. I don't think we've had a thread on these before, and sadly there's only little literature.

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Africa is still kind of finding its footing in terms of traditional "Western" architecture, as are many other non-Western countries.
Indeed and that's a long way, especially for Africa south of the Sahel, as there's only few vernacular (pre-colonial) styles that go along well with modern techniques/amenities and classical western aesthetics. So they have to create something new from Classical for their own, which is quite exciting.

The Reserve at Lake Keowee is fabulous, btw. South Carolina is among the best in the US when it comes to New Classical, thanks to various colleges and schools teaching the style since a while.
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Indeed and that's a long way, especially for Africa south of the Sahel, as there's only few vernacular (pre-colonial) styles that go along well with modern techniques/amenities and classical western aesthetics. So they have to create something new from Classical for their own, which is quite exciting.
This is actually very much a problem in much of Asia too. Typical newer homes in Tokyo will look like this:



(ie the same vaguely Western crud that you see in, say, Lagos or Abuja)

Or if you're loaded, this:



(Although you'll see tasteful combinations of Japanese and Western aesthetics too, like this Frank Lloyd Wright-influenced house):

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This thread turned into a complete rubbish. None of these crappy suburban houses are new classical. I really don't think you get the concept of this thread. None of the things you've post have anything to do with the purpose of this thread and it is not even open for negotiation. This thread is simply not about cardboard houses.

Please go to the page one and check out Hed Kandi's all posts. Go ahead and share with us if you have anything similar to what Kendi have posted. Otherwise, I kindly ask you not to post anything at all.

You also need to understand the fact that the presentation skills are highly important in architecture or any sort of art for that matter. You cannot post all these low quality pictures of horrible stucco boxes in different sizes. It doesn't look good and the content is not appropriate for the thread. There are just a billion of these horrible cardboard homes in my neighborhood in California alone. Let's find some real new classical jewels.
Calm down. I suggest you do actually look through all of Hed Kandi's post. You will find quite a bit of traditional architecture that I would label as marginal at best. In his quest to post more his standards were...lowered.

What photos are you referring to in particular?
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I really don't think you get the concept of this thread.
We're discussing something, and to illustrate points, there will be mediocre buildings. Join or stay away, but don't go on to rant.

There's been dozens of very good buildings in this thread, but we also agreed to discuss the evolution and needs of 'everyday' building culture into a more timeless, classical/vernacular direction.

This is no high glossy architecture firm portfolio, mate. That's what we have the dedicated instagram and facebook sites etc. for. This SSC thread mainly serves our users and they get that it won't and shouldn't always be the perfect showcase.
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Sure. You'll find all sorts of different colonial architecture styles though, when looking for it.
This is absolutely typical of colonial/traditional architecture of Kenya:










Below are examples of new homes in Kenya, built at least in part to that colonial/traditional style:

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That thing in Kenya is pretty nondescript. Here's some good new traditional architecture from Nairobi, on Knight Frank:



This, not that vaguely Floridian stucco, is traditional Kenyan highland architecture.




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Glad you joined this thread SE9, keep it coming!

Btw, do you have a Kenyan background?
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Glad you joined this thread SE9, keep it coming!

Btw, do you have a Kenyan background?
I don't, but it looks like SE9 is British (i.e. from the same empire as Kenya).
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