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Old November 24th, 2017, 02:26 PM   #9361
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Those examples from China almost made my eyes bleed. There's something about the over-exaggerated details, the lack of proportion, the seemingly cheap materials, and the complete disregard for subtlety that makes them difficult to look at.
That's true about most Chinese attempts to imitate foreign styles but these particular art-deco-ish ones are surprisingly OK.
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Old November 24th, 2017, 06:31 PM   #9362
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Those examples from China almost made my eyes bleed. There's something about the over-exaggerated details, the lack of proportion, the seemingly cheap materials, and the complete disregard for subtlety that makes them difficult to look at.
Just looking at the photos, I pretty much agree with you (haven't seen them in person). Although poor contemporary expressions of existing architectural styles are not limited to these examples in China. It seems like early movements of archetypes out of their originating locations (Neoclassical/Beaux Art and Art Deco, for example) were done with sensitivity and attention to details, proportions, materials, etc.
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Old November 24th, 2017, 06:34 PM   #9363
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Some are good some are bad. But mostly it was very interesting. Interestingly you can see a little Frank Lloyd Wright influence, particularly his Tokyo Imperial Hotel, in those housing developments. Especially compared to earlier developments, the quality and details seem to be improving.

And a lot of original Art Deco exists in China, by the way.
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Old November 24th, 2017, 07:50 PM   #9364
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I don't know why but when I see that the buildings are in China I breeze through them to the ones in Europe or the U.S.
I'd still take that Chinese stuff over a lot of non-classical artsy-fartsy crap with irregular window patterns and covered in patches of sheet metal.
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Old November 25th, 2017, 12:47 AM   #9365
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I'd still take that Chinese stuff over a lot of non-classical artsy-fartsy crap with irregular window patterns and covered in patches of sheet metal.
Really? I find this stuff borderline insulting. At least "artsy-fartsy crap" isn't trying to replicate a style and failing. I mean, Disney World has more authentic neoclassical architecture.
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Old November 25th, 2017, 03:50 AM   #9366
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With that logic, would you rather have a turd that smells like shit rather than one that smells like roses, because the latter imitates something it's not? Please! At least kitschy stuff looks pleasing to the untrained eye, and calling it "insulting" is just as elitist as modernism itself.
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Old November 25th, 2017, 04:11 AM   #9367
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With that logic, would you rather have a turd that smells like shit rather than one that smells like roses, because the latter imitates something it's not? Please! At least kitschy stuff looks pleasing to the untrained eye, and calling it "insulting" is just as elitist as modernism itself.
If my shit was smelling like roses, I'd be greatly concerned.
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Old November 25th, 2017, 05:53 AM   #9368
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With that logic, would you rather have a turd that smells like shit rather than one that smells like roses, because the latter imitates something it's not? Please! At least kitschy stuff looks pleasing to the untrained eye, and calling it "insulting" is just as elitist as modernism itself.
If both are shit, then why are you defending one over the other, and if calling shit insulting is elitist to you, your standards must be dreadfully low. Even people with untrained eyes can detect when something is shamelessly tacky. You aren't giving the average person's tastes enough credit. Designing barely acceptable trash should never be okay, regardless of style.
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Old November 25th, 2017, 06:29 AM   #9369
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Generally speaking I prefer modernism to poorly done classicism. I tend to hold the later up to a higher standard.
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Old November 25th, 2017, 03:39 PM   #9370
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Old November 27th, 2017, 12:58 AM   #9372
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Old November 27th, 2017, 02:27 AM   #9373
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some villas in the north of iran
they are a bit modernized but use general conventions of the regional architecture
the northern part of iran (caspian sea region) went through a massive tragic phase of hideous architecture and town planning from the 90s-2010, which gave birth to endless hideous villa towns with lego architecture.
in the recent years, the tragic era has been dying and newer villas are designed with much more subtle designs and natural materials
architect ; Sohrab Rafat

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Old November 27th, 2017, 02:18 PM   #9375
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Shares to much similarities with japanese castles for my taste:



German castles of this period loked more like this:

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Old November 27th, 2017, 03:21 PM   #9376
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Originally built in 1999 and closed in 2017. The rededication in a more traditional style will be in 2019. Memphis Tennessee Temple will have an identical renovation.

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Old November 27th, 2017, 03:50 PM   #9377
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For every half successful attempt at using these styles from another era, there are a hundred absolute stinkers.

We just don't really understand the complex orders of these old styles well enough to employ them correctly today. Usually it just looks like the styles have been papered onto the wrong size or proportion buildings. Overall I think we should stick to styles, materials and proportions that we are expert in using in the 21st Century.

Another benefit is that when you visit an old city, it is honest - you know what era buildings come from and they arent deceiving you. You get to fully appreciate the heritage buildings.
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Old November 27th, 2017, 03:55 PM   #9378
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Old November 27th, 2017, 05:58 PM   #9379
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At least use a traditional style of the location you're building in. Buildings need to have some consistent meaning across the world. Making sure they are related to the culture and the people of the area helps buildings fit in.
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