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Old April 30th, 2013, 02:57 AM   #1341
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Speaking of Gothic architecture, what do you guys think of this design?
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Old April 30th, 2013, 03:34 AM   #1342
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I wish more Gothic architecture was being built
Gothic and Art Deco. The Great Depression put an end to Art Deco in the USA. I think it is the most short lived architectural movement of all time, about three decades. I would love to see more Art Deco, especially high rises, being built.
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Old April 30th, 2013, 03:59 AM   #1343
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Well, there's this new art deco in Frankfurt, built about 10 years ago

There's a few nice new art decos in Berlin and also The Hague, and an art deco apartment about to be built by Silverstein on 99 Church Street in NYC.

I think the Wells Fargo Center in Minneapolis is the closest American skyscraper to look art deco in the past 50 years... or maybe NBC Tower in Chicago
Sadly, the same can't be said about Gothic architecture.
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Old May 1st, 2013, 02:27 AM   #1344
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There is quite a bit of Gothic architecture being built in the United States, most of it is collegiate Gothic however. There have been a few religious buildings built in Gothic over the past few years and more in the planning stages.
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Old May 1st, 2013, 03:24 AM   #1345
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Este puede ser un buen ejemplo: Apaneca
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Old May 4th, 2013, 03:39 AM   #1346
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Gothic and Art Deco. The Great Depression put an end to Art Deco in the USA. I think it is the most short lived architectural movement of all time, about three decades. I would love to see more Art Deco, especially high rises, being built.
Even shorter Im afraid, more like two decades, c1920 - c.1940. Of course if you are including the Gothic inspired commercial buildings then yes more like three decades. I totally agree with you, somehow the Art Deco style reached its pinnacle in the American Skyscaper. There should be a revival of this instead of just copying the same old glass, steel and concrete style of high rise that you see in ever country on earth. The days when countries had their own distinctive style (or more likely, intrepretation) of architecture have long gone regrettably.
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Old May 5th, 2013, 06:43 AM   #1347
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Art Deco never totally died out, new examples pop up in Florida and around the United States from time and time and have done so since the 40s.
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50s 60s and 70s art deco would be intresting!
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Old May 8th, 2013, 03:48 PM   #1349
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Geil traditionalist residential project in New York City:

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Lets hope so. It has large glass surfaces, those have a tendency to turn out pastiche-like, especially when it mirrors a bit. It then really comes down to the detailing of all the other elements. Like quality brickwork and windowframes.

The sketch is charming, but sketched impressions are almost charming by definition. I have seen a lot of them which turned out bland and sterile.
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You're right here, let's hope these people are aware of what it needs to make this a timeless piece of architecture.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 08:05 PM   #1352
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Lets hope so. It has large glass surfaces, those have a tendency to turn out pastiche-like, especially when it mirrors a bit. It then really comes down to the detailing of all the other elements. Like quality brickwork and windowframes.

The sketch is charming, but sketched impressions are almost charming by definition. I have seen a lot of them which turned out bland and sterile.
You are so right. Many sketches look good but turn out quite the opposite when built. This one looks promising and I think as its in the U.S. it is more likely to turn out fine, if it was in any former USSR state I would be much more suspect, they have a tendency to like kitsch Im afraid.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 09:55 AM   #1353
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Mansion in elite village "Florance" near Moscow, 2010, architects: Dmitrij Barhin, Andrej Barhin, Nadezhda Basangova and others. Neo-classic.




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Geil, indeed, great mansion!
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I think many details are grossly oversized. Take for example the huge capitals, most of the cornice, and the triangular pediment.
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Shame they had to name the village (gated community?) Florance though
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I think many details are grossly oversized. Take for example the huge capitals, most of the cornice, and the triangular pediment.
Your observation of the cornice is right on. The entablature proportions of the Corinthian Order are:

Architrave: 3/4 column diameter.
Frieze: 3/4 column diameter.
Cornice: 1 column diameter.

The column diameter dimension is taken at the base of the shaft, not at the capital where it is diminished by entasis.

In this example the architrave is about right, except that the moulding at the top is a bit too bold in its projection, the frieze appears to be about half the size it should be (3/8 diameters), and the cornice is about 1 1/2 diameters or twice the size that it should be. Also the upper crown on the cornice should follow along the top of the pediment, and not be present at the pediment's lower cornice.
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Your observation of the cornice is right on. The entablature proportions of the Corinthian Order are:

Architrave: 3/4 column diameter.
Frieze: 3/4 column diameter.
Cornice: 1 column diameter.

The column diameter dimension is taken at the base of the shaft, not at the capital where it is diminished by entasis.

In this example the architrave is about right, except that the moulding at the top is a bit too bold in its projection, the frieze appears to be about half the size it should be (3/8 diameters), and the cornice is about 1 1/2 diameters or twice the size that it should be. Also the upper crown on the cornice should follow along the top of the pediment, and not be present at the pediment's lower cornice.
It's actually a composite order (combination of Corinthian and Ionic) but the proportions are similar to Corinthian.
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Old May 11th, 2013, 02:47 AM   #1360
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I like it. It looks like a very playful classical structure. A folk classical if you will.
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