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Old July 27th, 2013, 10:33 PM   #1441
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The City Hall of Yingquan District of Fuyang, Anhui province. It sure looks strange among other Chinese buildings. But at least they're trying--I give it an A for effort! Hopefully the money spent on buildings like this will encourage architects to relearn classical architecture and make it easier and cheaper for other clients to build classical buildings.

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i can't believe this garbage made it into this thread, anhui is one of the poorest provinces in china and the local govt builds this enormous monstrosity with all their dirty money.

ever heard of ceaucescu's palace of parliament? this is the chinese equivalent but with less class. they took a massive concrete hulk and covered it with a versailles/u.s. capitol theme to give it that "royal" look, if anything it speaks to their arrogance and lack of imagination.

this is not revival architecture, this is pure wasteful kitsch to satisfy the egos of corrupt politicians.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 08:06 AM   #1442
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Many of the world's great palaces and monuments were built by egotistical dictators: among them are the Pyramids at Giza, the Sphinx, the Palace of Versailles, and the Forbidden City. Some of the least classical and most boring architecture has come from liberal democracies of the last 60 years, notably the glass and steel stuff that is the norm in Western Europe now.

No one is claiming the Yingquan City Hall is the next Versailles, but the building shows where the leaders' and architects' preferences lie. Those leaders and architects are kind of people who read and post on this thread. The readers of this thread want to see more traditional architecture so we shouldn't demonize projects that try but fail to achieve proper grandeur. Rather than mocking their work we should offer constructive criticism.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 08:21 PM   #1443
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I should admit - I quite like this building. Of course, proportions is failed badly But still... it is interesting, at least... And top is quite ok.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 08:54 PM   #1444
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I wonder what is like inside those Western Style Chinese government buildings. I'm sure with the controversy brewing over their alleged opulence, no cameras will be allowed.
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Old July 30th, 2013, 03:59 PM   #1445
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Old July 30th, 2013, 04:01 PM   #1446
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Old July 30th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #1447
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Old July 30th, 2013, 04:05 PM   #1448
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Old July 30th, 2013, 10:05 PM   #1449
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I love that Egyptian architecture.

I think the main reason that Chinese city hall looks so weird is because it sticks out of the surrounding environment. If it were surrounded by other similar buildings then it would look more natural. So the solution is a happy one: build more classical buildings. A consistent classical theme will be more pleasant than one grandiose classical building in an ocean of modern glass and steel buildings.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 11:10 AM   #1450
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Old July 31st, 2013, 08:45 PM   #1451
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I love that Egyptian architecture.

I think the main reason that Chinese city hall looks so weird is because it sticks out of the surrounding environment. If it were surrounded by other similar buildings then it would look more natural. So the solution is a happy one: build more classical buildings. A consistent classical theme will be more pleasant than one grandiose classical building in an ocean of modern glass and steel buildings.
I think it's because it has too much going on for itself. Looks like they've thrown in every architectural feature they could think of and then supersized the whole building.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 08:57 PM   #1452
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agree. It lacks of proportion, beauty and style.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 08:59 PM   #1453
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I agree bolg. The building is too "busy". So how could we improve this building?

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I don't know any architectural terms so bear with me. First I would remove the columns on either side of the entrance. Next I would shrink the triangle facade above the entrance. Then I would pull the whole building at the same level, removing the tiered structure below the dome and the Parisian lofts on each wing. Finally I would put Lady Liberty on top of the dome.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 10:48 PM   #1454
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Very nice! When was this built.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 04:36 AM   #1455
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Yeah we need more information because the first building is marvelous.
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Impressive, very exquisite architecture in Cairo, and Pamplona very nice building !
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Old August 1st, 2013, 09:45 PM   #1457
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Old August 1st, 2013, 10:43 PM   #1458
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Classical architecture can be done semi-amateur if done for tucked in houses, small businesses, etc.

But for public buildings, churches, large structures, etc. the laws of classical proportion must be followed.
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I agree bolg. The building is too "busy". So how could we improve this building?



I don't know any architectural terms so bear with me. First I would remove the columns on either side of the entrance. Next I would shrink the triangle facade above the entrance. Then I would pull the whole building at the same level, removing the tiered structure below the dome and the Parisian lofts on each wing. Finally I would put Lady Liberty on top of the dome.
I'd probably remove the top floor and its dormers. Then rethink the proportions and maybe remove other details. Looks definitely like it could do without a few of those columns.
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Old August 2nd, 2013, 12:54 AM   #1460
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Many of the world's great palaces and monuments were built by egotistical dictators: among them are the Pyramids at Giza, the Sphinx, the Palace of Versailles, and the Forbidden City. Some of the least classical and most boring architecture has come from liberal democracies of the last 60 years, notably the glass and steel stuff that is the norm in Western Europe now.

No one is claiming the Yingquan City Hall is the next Versailles, but the building shows where the leaders' and architects' preferences lie. Those leaders and architects are kind of people who read and post on this thread. The readers of this thread want to see more traditional architecture so we shouldn't demonize projects that try but fail to achieve proper grandeur. Rather than mocking their work we should offer constructive criticism.
last i checked this was the "modern buildings in classical style" thread not the "morally atrocious tasteless white elephant" thread.
i know exactly the type of people that had this thing built, and i highly doubt that that they frequent skyscrapercity; they're too busy blowing their dirty cash on ktv waitresses and north american real estate.

by the way, the classical styled constructions in western europe and north america are generally of a much higher quality than the ones built in china, which are usually poorly planned and executed with major graft as shoddy tourist traps with little regard to actual architectural merit. if you want evidence just look at this thread.



pic related: the chi lin nunnery, one of the few high quality classical styled modern constructions in china that is actually faithful to the authentic styles and methods of classical architecture.
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