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Old November 22nd, 2013, 09:24 AM   #1881
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Far better than the one you sowed us before, but still not right. I like its übermonumetal use of classic elements, they are put togeter in a verry russian but still somehow tastefull way. Proportions work quite well on those elements. What kills it is as usual the low ceiling hight an those large windows. if you would had just two instead of three floors in the lover and middle zone it would be perfecrt. The upper part works well with its wintergarden like apperiance. So this building gives us a perfect example of what is done wrong with so many originally good attemps. 1. get rid of "ribbonwindows" in classic designs. their not party of cassic architecture and therefor will never really work with it. 2. Use propper ceiling hights, at least 3 - 3,5 meter.



this one is a very interesing, very "neostalinesque". attemp too. I like i but it has still some issues. Why are there still thes blank parts that seem just unfinished and what the hell are those balkony things ???
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 10:11 AM   #1882
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All the reason in the economy. Renovation was made without evicting tenants. The picture shows the building in unfinished form. And simulate balconies apparently meant for air conditioners. This is how I understand it. It seems architect did everything possible to revive this wretched building.

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i dont have to convince you... many architects have "close minded" so. there are a lot of great examples of classical revival architecture. and its esthetic and functional, the principal precepts of architecture.
Don't need to convince me, please. I largely agree with You. I can distinguish good architecture from bad one. Unfortunately, at this forum thread was presented a little really good samples. I politely not criticizing them, just don't put "like". I was puzzled why anyone was attack on one bad camera angle, which is a particular case, and making a General negative conclusion about the whole Russian architecture. Such conclusions can be regarded as a manifestation of chauvinism and bad manners of some participants of the forum.

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Old November 22nd, 2013, 12:40 PM   #1883
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What kills it is as usual the low ceiling hight an those large windows. if you would had just two instead of three floors in the lover and middle zone it would be perfecrt.
Please keep in mind, it's not a new building either - it's another renovation of late 50's simple and ugly building: on this map you can see how it looks before http://maps.yandex.ru/-/CVb1Z-93 (sorry, I couldn't find better photo).

So it was just imposible to change windows and general proportions...
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 01:20 PM   #1884
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Here's another old picture. In General, this building was previously not residential. It was the institution. In my opinion, the architect has successfully coped with a problem task of repair.
In the photo - the far left extension is this building before renovation.:

http://oldmos.ru/old/upload/photos/2...d1bb1f6fc0.jpg

After renovation:


The main entrance today after reconstruction:

http://www.luxdom.ru/images/objects/...225/1247-1.jpg


http://f.mirkvartir.ru/526x526/ea/ea...c8998cbee0.jpg

Interior - corridor on the floor and staircase:

http://kvartm.ru/uploads/photos/83_a34f10fb73343b9.jpg


http://kvartm.ru/uploads/photos/ac_0d0c447cb8e2a36.jpg

Entrance hall:

http://наши-новостройки.рф/wp-conten...ouse%20(4).jpg
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 01:38 PM   #1885
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 01:44 PM   #1886
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 06:06 PM   #1887
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That's new?

Crazy!
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 06:28 PM   #1888
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 06:32 PM   #1889
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 07:03 PM   #1890
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That's new?

Crazy!
It's amazing. But it looks like a renovation to me. Any proof it's a new building?
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 08:19 PM   #1891
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http://www.fotocasa.es/Building/Building_Detail.aspx?ai=131078883&OrigenVisita=95&link=8060&xts=470361&xtor=CS1-352-[Trovit]-[2]-[3014]&opi=246&tti=1
in spanish , built in 2002
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 10:10 AM   #1892
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G.H. Universal Hotel, Bandung, West Java, Indonesia


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Old November 23rd, 2013, 11:50 AM   #1893
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ooo nice~
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Old November 24th, 2013, 01:38 AM   #1894
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New projects from Germany built in 2000s:











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Old November 24th, 2013, 01:50 AM   #1895
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Really classy and timeless stuff! The kitsch-avoidance rate in Germany is pretty good in neo-traditional/new classical architecture.
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Old November 25th, 2013, 08:25 AM   #1897
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http://www.fotocasa.es/Building/Buil...&xtor=CS1-352-[Trovit]-[2]-[3014]&opi=246&tti=1
in spanish , built in 2002
Edificio construido en el año 2002 reproduciendo la fachada original de diseño clásico

In fact its more of a renovation/reconstruction...

That indonesian Hotel looks good in most parts, proportions seem right, beside the first picture which is really disgusting.

Those german buildings look good for the most too.
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Old November 26th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #1898
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Really classy and timeless stuff! The kitsch-avoidance rate in Germany is pretty good in neo-traditional/new classical architecture.
I love your quotation - "kitsch-avoidance rate". I was just thinking the same thing as I looked at the photos of new builds in Germany. When you compare these to the over the top Russian examples they are an exemplary lesson on how to design in a traditionalist style. I'm not suggesting the Russians should not use their own interpretations but the problem seems to be that the new builds there are nearly always vastly inferior to the 19th c. examples they are trying to emulate and in the more extreme cases they are quite simply hideous.
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Old November 26th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #1899
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Really classy and timeless stuff! The kitsch-avoidance rate in Germany is pretty good in neo-traditional/new classical architecture.
*sigh*
I just can see with these examples - Germany architects, even trying to work on traditional "field", still can't overgrow some modernist ideas. They still belive that any and every decoration mean "kitch" and in result these buildings looks quite boring and can't be compared with best examples of "Belle Époque" architecture.

May be these buildings (especially the last one) is a good example of something like "neo-bauhaus", but for me even original bauhaus was not the traditional architecture, but the end of it The main idea of bauhaus, sometimes hidden, sometimes even proudly declared is "cheap and functional". And this is same what I think looking on these buildings - they are cheap and functional, nothing more.
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*sigh*
I just can see with these examples - Germany architects, even trying to work on traditional "field", still can't overgrow some modernist ideas. They still belive that any and every decoration mean "kitch" and in result these buildings looks quite boring and can't be compared with best examples of "Belle Époque" architecture.
May be these buildings (especially the last one) is a good example of something like "neo-bauhaus", but for me even original bauhaus was not the traditional architecture, but the end of it The main idea of bauhaus, sometimes hidden, sometimes even proudly declared is "cheap and functional". And this is same what I think looking on these buildings - they are cheap and functional, nothing more.
I have long time Holden with estimates, but still I will.
Indeed, these buildings are not so bad. However, if they become a mass phenomenon, you can die from boredom. It's not a classic, but not a Bauhaus. Something sterile, as is in the hospital. This is also kitsch, but with a minus sign.
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