ABU DHABI | Masdar City

***Þróndeimr*** · December 13th, 2009, 12:25 AM

Copyright@ Vyonyx (Illustrator) and Foster + Partners (Architect)

About Masdar City
The first project as a result of the Masdar Initiative is a new 6 million square meter sustainable development that uses the traditional planning principals of a walled
city, together with existing technologies to achieve a zero carbon and zero waste community. Masterplanned by Foster + Partners and launched today at Cityscape
Abu Dhabi, the initiative has been driven by the Abu Dhabi Future Energy Company, and will be a centre for the development of new ideas for energy production.
Masdar responds to the urban identity of Abu Dhabi while offering a sustainable urban blueprint for the future.

It is an ambitious project that will attract the highest levels of international expertise and commerce, providing a mixed-use, high-density city. The exciting
programme includes a new university, the Headquarters for Abu Dhabi’s Future Energy Company, special economic zones and an Innovation Center. The principle of
the Masdar development is a dense walled city to be constructed in an energy efficient two-stage phasing that relies on the creation of a large photovoltaic power
plant, which later becomes the site for the cities second phase, allowing for urban growth yet avoiding low density sprawl.

Strategically located for Abu Dhabi’s principal transport infrastructure, Masdar will be linked to surrounding communities as well as the centre of Abu Dhabi and the
international airport by a network of existing road and new rail and public transport routes. Rooted in a zero carbon ambition, the city itself is car free. With a
maximum distance of 200m to the nearest transport link and amenities, the compact network of streets encourages walking and is complemented by a personalised
rapid transport system. The shaded walkways and narrow streets will create a pedestrian friendly environment in the context of Abu Dhabi’s extreme climate. It
also articulates the tightly planned, compact nature of traditional walled cities. With expansion carefully planned, the surrounding land will contain wind, photovoltaic
farms, research fields and plantations, so that the city will be entirely self-sustaining.

View all the renderings in HIGH RESOLUTION (Page 4)

Masdar Headquarter
Masdar Headquarters is designed by Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Architecture and is located at the centre of Masdar City. The headquarters will be the world’s first
large-scale, mixed-use “positive energy” building, producing more energy than it consumes. Design plans for the headquarters include numerous systems that will
generate a surplus of the building’s energy, eliminate carbon emissions and reduce liquid and solid waste. The complex will utilize sustainable materials and feature
integrated wind turbines, outdoor air quality monitors and one of the world’s largest building-integrated solar energy arrays. Compared with typical mixed-use
buildings of the same size, the Masdar Headquarters will reduce its water consumption by 70 percent.

In addition to being the first mixed-use net positive energy building in the world, AS+GG’s Masdar Headquarters will:
· Be the lowest energy consumer per square meter for a modern class A office building in an extremely hot and humid climate
· Feature one of the world’s largest building-integrated photovoltaic arrays
· Employ the largest solar thermal driven cooling and dehumidification system – the world’s lowest impact active building conditioning system
· Be the first building in history to generate power and protect workers during the construction process through a staged construction of the roof prior to the rest
of the complex.

Copyright@ Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill (Architect)

Copyright@ Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill (Architect)

Masdar Eco City Centre
At the center of Masdar we find Masdar Eco City Centre. Giant umbrellas, with a design based on the principles of sunflowers, will provide moveable shade in the
day, store heat, then close and release the heat at night. The ‘sunflower umbrellas’ are one aspect of the winning design by the international practice Laboratory
for Visionary Architecture [LAVA]. The design for the city centre, includes a plaza, five-star hotel, long stay hotel, a convention centre and entertainment complex
and retail facilities.

The solar powered ‘sunflower’ umbrellas capture the sun’s rays during the day, fold at night releasing the stored heat, and open again the next day. They follow
the projection of the sun to provide continuous shade during the day and can be used anywhere in the world including deserts.

Copyright@ Atelier Illume (Illustrator) and LAVA (Architect)

Copyright@ MIR (Illustrator) and (Illustrator) and LAVA (Architect)

***Þróndeimr*** · December 13th, 2009, 12:26 AM

Masdar Institute of Science And Technology

Masdar Institute of Science and Technology will be built in four stages, phase one was completed in September 2010. The other parts of this university campus
will be completed in 2011, 2012 and 2014.

Copyright@ Vyonyx (Illustrator) and Foster + Partners (Architect)

teddybear · December 13th, 2009, 12:40 AM

wow. nice. I like it, like an environmentally friendly oasis in desert. nice design too.

Shezan · December 13th, 2009, 06:04 AM

really futuristic, nice details

***Ni3lS*** · December 13th, 2009, 07:39 AM

Make it happen

***Þróndeimr*** · December 13th, 2009, 01:04 PM

editing

Adam2707 · December 13th, 2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ni3lS

Make it happen

Don't worry about that. This IS happening....
Thanks for making this thread Þróndeimr, was going to do it myself a few weeks back but I forgot about it. Loads of new renders.

Picture from December 10th

The structure in front is a 'Beam Down Solar Heat Concentration' that will provide electricity to Masdar. The buildings/cranes behind are all part of the development.

Adam2707 · December 13th, 2009, 11:22 PM

Some video's for those that are interested.

Link

***Þróndeimr*** · December 13th, 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam2707

Thanks for making this thread Þróndeimr, was going to do it myself a few weeks back but I forgot about it. Loads of new renders.

Picture from December 10th

The structure in front is a 'Beam Down Solar Heat Concentration' that will provide electricity to Masdar. The buildings/cranes behind are all part of the development.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9...2102808429.jpg

Actually i searched for a thread about Masdar in the section several months back, and was surprised i didn't find any. Thought about making one, but didn't have many renderings. But since i found lots of great renders now i didn't hesitate making one. No good project thread without good renderings!

Thanks for the construction image, was searching for one yesterday but could not find any! I hope our forumers near do provide some updates from the construction site. Cool videos btw, haven't seen any of them before!

Adam2707 · December 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Really good recent video of Masdar City. More done than I expected.

***hkskyline*** · December 14th, 2009, 06:00 PM

Japanese bank in UAE green city financing talks
10 November 2009

ABU DHABI, Nov 10 (Reuters) - Japanese Bank for International Coooperation is in talks to finance renewable energy projects in a new $15 billion carbon-neutral city in Abu Dhabi, a company executive said on Tuesday.

"We are currently running a feasibility study for financing Masdar's renewable energy projects," Moriyuki Aida, the bank's chief representative in Dubai told Reuters.

Masdar was set up by the Abu Dhabi government in the United Arab Emirates to develop sustainable and clean energy.

It aims to put the emirate of Abu Dhabi, holder of 90 percent of the United Arab Emirate's oil reserves, at the forefront of the future energy industry.

Speaking on the sidelines of a conference organised by MEED, Aida said projects under discussion included solar and wind.

Masdar is investing $15 billion to build the world's first carbon-neutral, zero waste city and is developing various alternative energy projects.

Abu Dhabi is the capital of the United Arab Emirates, the world's third-largest oil exporter, and has been spending billions of dollars developing its infrastructure as it looks to diversify its economy away from hydrocarbons.

midotoria · December 17th, 2009, 12:30 AM

great project congrats abu dhabi

Sister Ray · December 17th, 2009, 08:41 AM

Wow! This looks incredible. I love it.

***Þróndeimr*** · December 23rd, 2009, 06:58 PM

Reading some breaking news in a Norwegian newspaper. Cannot find a English article about it yet.

It sais Masdar City has been cancelled, can anyone confirm this?

In detail it sais that they will go ahead with one small commercial part of the project, but it won't be a zero carbon and zero waste project anymore, the technology is just not there yet. The financial situation is been blamed the most. Financing the project is not a problem, but few people have any interest in moving into the city as it is now.

Sad news...

***Þróndeimr*** · December 23rd, 2009, 07:30 PM

Teknisk Ukeblad article (Norwegian)
Cancel gigantic environmental project
- The carbon neutral city of Masdar City will not be built, said the Norwegian Embassy in Abu Dhabi.

Sheikhdom Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates would invest 22 billion to build Masdar City. The city, which was designed by the renowned British architect Lord Norman Foster, was driven solely by energy from solar, wind and waste.

Sun, wind and waste
82 percent of energy needs should be collected from solar energy, one percent from wind power and the remaining 17 percent would come from the composted food waste.

The city should be free of cars, and water consumption would be half of current consumption in Abu Dhabi. The first reason the work of the new Masdar City commenced in February, and it should have been completed in 2016.

But now, reports the Norwegian Embassy in Abu Dhabi that the company Masdar finally collected by the financial realities and that it will not be set aside 20-22 billion as previously announced.

- The plans shelved
In a letter to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Petroleum and Energy writes Special Envoy Gunnar Gjerde that one now sees that it will be possible to get 50 000 people to settle in the city in the wake of the financial crisis.

- In the future it might happen, but not by 2016. There is thus a slower development pace of Masdar city, and one concentrating now on development of the commercial section, it says in the letter.

Gjerde also affirm that the city will not be carbon neutral.

- They have also come to realize that the city will not be able to be carb-neutral. There is simply no technology that allows it. Based on this insight change, therefore the strategy, and would rather focus on selected technologies and do not go as wide as previously thought. One thinks also that the technologies to be applied in Abu Dhabi in general, and not just isolated to Masdar city, he writes.

Huge construction project
The project is now shelved had unusual dimensions. Six square miles of desert sand 30 kilometer outside the city of Abu Dhabi would be the construction site the next six years.

The city was 50 000 people and 1,500 small businesses and large multinational corporations to keep, and not from any point in the city should be more than 200 feet to a station for electric trains. The large energy company Masdar would also use CO2 capture as compensation for the CO2 emissions that occurred during the construction. In his speech writing Gjerde that there are many opportunities for Norwegian companies in renewable energy in Abu Dhabi.

But it may still be some opportunities in smart solutions for electricity networks, energy efficiency, solar cell production and carbon capture.

nitzomoe · December 23rd, 2009, 07:33 PM

I noticed that this project is just for energy efficiency, it says nothing about other forms of sustainability. this project looks like it would require extreme amounts of water for example, to maintain its lush exterior. Unless the ciy is situated in an oasis, that doesn't sound sustainable to me.

***Þróndeimr*** · December 23rd, 2009, 07:38 PM

"water consumption would be half of current consumption in Abu Dhabi."

anaiptol · December 25th, 2009, 12:17 AM

Asia at it's best.

Xtandragn · December 25th, 2009, 01:03 AM

This is Paradise with ecological energy

Betelgeuze · December 25th, 2009, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anaiptol

Asia at it's best.

Asia?

December 13th, 2009, 12:25 AM	#1
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,263 Likes (Received): 260	ABU DHABI \| Masdar City Copyright@ Vyonyx (Illustrator) and Foster + Partners (Architect) About Masdar City The first project as a result of the Masdar Initiative is a new 6 million square meter sustainable development that uses the traditional planning principals of a walled city, together with existing technologies to achieve a zero carbon and zero waste community. Masterplanned by Foster + Partners and launched today at Cityscape Abu Dhabi, the initiative has been driven by the Abu Dhabi Future Energy Company, and will be a centre for the development of new ideas for energy production. Masdar responds to the urban identity of Abu Dhabi while offering a sustainable urban blueprint for the future. It is an ambitious project that will attract the highest levels of international expertise and commerce, providing a mixed-use, high-density city. The exciting programme includes a new university, the Headquarters for Abu Dhabi’s Future Energy Company, special economic zones and an Innovation Center. The principle of the Masdar development is a dense walled city to be constructed in an energy efficient two-stage phasing that relies on the creation of a large photovoltaic power plant, which later becomes the site for the cities second phase, allowing for urban growth yet avoiding low density sprawl. Strategically located for Abu Dhabi’s principal transport infrastructure, Masdar will be linked to surrounding communities as well as the centre of Abu Dhabi and the international airport by a network of existing road and new rail and public transport routes. Rooted in a zero carbon ambition, the city itself is car free. With a maximum distance of 200m to the nearest transport link and amenities, the compact network of streets encourages walking and is complemented by a personalised rapid transport system. The shaded walkways and narrow streets will create a pedestrian friendly environment in the context of Abu Dhabi’s extreme climate. It also articulates the tightly planned, compact nature of traditional walled cities. With expansion carefully planned, the surrounding land will contain wind, photovoltaic farms, research fields and plantations, so that the city will be entirely self-sustaining. View all the renderings in HIGH RESOLUTION (Page 4) Masdar Headquarter Masdar Headquarters is designed by Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Architecture and is located at the centre of Masdar City. The headquarters will be the world’s first large-scale, mixed-use “positive energy” building, producing more energy than it consumes. Design plans for the headquarters include numerous systems that will generate a surplus of the building’s energy, eliminate carbon emissions and reduce liquid and solid waste. The complex will utilize sustainable materials and feature integrated wind turbines, outdoor air quality monitors and one of the world’s largest building-integrated solar energy arrays. Compared with typical mixed-use buildings of the same size, the Masdar Headquarters will reduce its water consumption by 70 percent. In addition to being the first mixed-use net positive energy building in the world, AS+GG’s Masdar Headquarters will: · Be the lowest energy consumer per square meter for a modern class A office building in an extremely hot and humid climate · Feature one of the world’s largest building-integrated photovoltaic arrays · Employ the largest solar thermal driven cooling and dehumidification system – the world’s lowest impact active building conditioning system · Be the first building in history to generate power and protect workers during the construction process through a staged construction of the roof prior to the rest of the complex. 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December 13th, 2009, 12:40 AM	#3
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Shezan BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The 80s Posts: 16,307 Likes (Received): 1	really futuristic, nice details

December 13th, 2009, 11:22 PM	#8
Adam2707 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,266 Likes (Received): 0	Some video's for those that are interested. Link

December 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM	#10
Adam2707 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,266 Likes (Received): 0	Really good recent video of Masdar City. More done than I expected.

December 14th, 2009, 06:00 PM	#11
*hkskyline* Hong Kong Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 71,045 Likes (Received): 823	Japanese bank in UAE green city financing talks 10 November 2009 ABU DHABI, Nov 10 (Reuters) - Japanese Bank for International Coooperation is in talks to finance renewable energy projects in a new $15 billion carbon-neutral city in Abu Dhabi, a company executive said on Tuesday. "We are currently running a feasibility study for financing Masdar's renewable energy projects," Moriyuki Aida, the bank's chief representative in Dubai told Reuters. Masdar was set up by the Abu Dhabi government in the United Arab Emirates to develop sustainable and clean energy. It aims to put the emirate of Abu Dhabi, holder of 90 percent of the United Arab Emirate's oil reserves, at the forefront of the future energy industry. Speaking on the sidelines of a conference organised by MEED, Aida said projects under discussion included solar and wind. Masdar is investing $15 billion to build the world's first carbon-neutral, zero waste city and is developing various alternative energy projects. Abu Dhabi is the capital of the United Arab Emirates, the world's third-largest oil exporter, and has been spending billions of dollars developing its infrastructure as it looks to diversify its economy away from hydrocarbons. __________________ Hong Kong Photo Gallery - Click Here for the Hong Kong Galleries World Photo Gallery - \| New York \| London \| Egypt \| Dubai \| Shanghai \| Xian \| Tokyo \| Kyoto \| Prague Beijing, Seoul, Taipei, Mumbai, Iceland, Sydney, Rocky Mountains, Toronto, and much more!

December 17th, 2009, 12:30 AM	#12
midotoria مصر ام الدنيا Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: tanta.egypt Posts: 1,163 Likes (Received): 6	great project congrats abu dhabi __________________ visit Egypt..... support our revolution Sharm El SheikhCairoTaba AlexandriaHurghadaAswanMersa Matruh*Luxor

December 17th, 2009, 08:41 AM	#13
Sister Ray Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seoul Posts: 869 Likes (Received): 20	Wow! This looks incredible. I love it.

December 23rd, 2009, 06:58 PM	#14
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,263 Likes (Received): 260	Reading some breaking news in a Norwegian newspaper. Cannot find a English article about it yet. It sais Masdar City has been cancelled, can anyone confirm this? In detail it sais that they will go ahead with one small commercial part of the project, but it won't be a zero carbon and zero waste project anymore, the technology is just not there yet. The financial situation is been blamed the most. Financing the project is not a problem, but few people have any interest in moving into the city as it is now. Sad news... Last edited by Þróndeimr; December 23rd, 2009 at 07:09 PM.

December 23rd, 2009, 07:30 PM	#15
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,263 Likes (Received): 260	Teknisk Ukeblad article (Norwegian) Cancel gigantic environmental project - The carbon neutral city of Masdar City will not be built, said the Norwegian Embassy in Abu Dhabi. Sheikhdom Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates would invest 22 billion to build Masdar City. The city, which was designed by the renowned British architect Lord Norman Foster, was driven solely by energy from solar, wind and waste. Sun, wind and waste 82 percent of energy needs should be collected from solar energy, one percent from wind power and the remaining 17 percent would come from the composted food waste. The city should be free of cars, and water consumption would be half of current consumption in Abu Dhabi. The first reason the work of the new Masdar City commenced in February, and it should have been completed in 2016. But now, reports the Norwegian Embassy in Abu Dhabi that the company Masdar finally collected by the financial realities and that it will not be set aside 20-22 billion as previously announced. - The plans shelved In a letter to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Petroleum and Energy writes Special Envoy Gunnar Gjerde that one now sees that it will be possible to get 50 000 people to settle in the city in the wake of the financial crisis. - In the future it might happen, but not by 2016. There is thus a slower development pace of Masdar city, and one concentrating now on development of the commercial section, it says in the letter. Gjerde also affirm that the city will not be carbon neutral. - They have also come to realize that the city will not be able to be carb-neutral. There is simply no technology that allows it. Based on this insight change, therefore the strategy, and would rather focus on selected technologies and do not go as wide as previously thought. One thinks also that the technologies to be applied in Abu Dhabi in general, and not just isolated to Masdar city, he writes. Huge construction project The project is now shelved had unusual dimensions. Six square miles of desert sand 30 kilometer outside the city of Abu Dhabi would be the construction site the next six years. The city was 50 000 people and 1,500 small businesses and large multinational corporations to keep, and not from any point in the city should be more than 200 feet to a station for electric trains. The large energy company Masdar would also use CO2 capture as compensation for the CO2 emissions that occurred during the construction. In his speech writing Gjerde that there are many opportunities for Norwegian companies in renewable energy in Abu Dhabi. But it may still be some opportunities in smart solutions for electricity networks, energy efficiency, solar cell production and carbon capture.

December 23rd, 2009, 07:33 PM	#16
nitzomoe Scarebarian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Calgary Posts: 597 Likes (Received): 1	I noticed that this project is just for energy efficiency, it says nothing about other forms of sustainability. this project looks like it would require extreme amounts of water for example, to maintain its lush exterior. Unless the ciy is situated in an oasis, that doesn't sound sustainable to me.

December 23rd, 2009, 07:38 PM	#17
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,263 Likes (Received): 260	"water consumption would be half of current consumption in Abu Dhabi."

December 25th, 2009, 12:17 AM	#18
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