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Old September 6th, 2013, 05:01 PM   #341
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Picking up on MarkO's post above

Here are a few more shots from the latest testing sessions at the eastern extremity of the expanding network. Earlier this week control system testing took place in Ashton under Lyne.

The idea being to test the capability of the terminus at Ashton in handling multiple trams arriving and departing. Five test trams were in use during the tests.

These had been stabled just outside the town centre on Ashton Moss over the testing period.



Three trams stand on Ashton Moss awaiting their turn to run up to Ashton.



Another one arrives!



Three trams now in the stop.



The terminus stop is now full with trams in each of the 4 berths and one waiting to enter.



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Old September 7th, 2013, 09:12 PM   #342
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So exciting to see those trams at Ashton Freel! Thanks for posting! :-)
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Old September 8th, 2013, 12:42 AM   #343
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So exciting to see those trams at Ashton Freel! Thanks for posting! :-)
Thanks MarkO. Its a pleasure. Future posts may I'm afraid be slightly marred by a watermark due to a recent copyright problem.
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Old September 8th, 2013, 11:02 PM   #344
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More from East Manchester

Apologies for repetition as one of has already been posted but having set up some of my albums on Flickr now to allow for easy watermarking I just wanted to try posting a few of the first trials.

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Old October 5th, 2013, 12:50 AM   #345
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Trial or Shadow running on the East Manchester Line between Droylsden and Ashton started on Monday 30th September with the trams operating the Bury to Droylsden service running empty on to Ashton. If this is successful full commercial service should start on Wednesday 9th October.

I spent a while alongside the ALDI store chatting with a couple of guys. The instances of there being 2 trams in the Ashton stop were quite frequent between 10:15 and 11:00. Here we see 3046 arriving as 3060 departs.

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3003 crosses the roundabout at Ashton Leisure Park.

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3043 approaches the same location from Ashton West.

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3012 Leaves Ashton Moss for Ashton. By now I had met up with Johnny.

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We tried for some more 'arty' shots, and I'm afraid my lack of an eye for a good shot showed through so other than this I will leave those shots to Johnny.

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3016 approaches Moss Way junction Bury bound.

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and rounds the curve behind the Snipe pub.

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to be replaced by 3024 eastbound.

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Moving on to Audenshaw now and a location which I missed during the earlier testing. 3024 heads down Droylsden Road along the red trambaan.

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3023 eastbound just about to cross the road to enter Audenshaw stop.

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A bit of telephoto shows 3024 approaching Droylsden as 3023 heads towards us eastbound.

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Finally a couple back up near Ashton West as I walked home.

3046 heading to Ashton

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and 3060 bound for Bury.

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Old October 6th, 2013, 08:26 AM   #346
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Great system and very nice photos! Keep'em up!

BTW it is a little weird to see modern european LRT system with high platforms. No low-floor cars and so on. Looks like a Stuttgart S-Bahn for me.
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Old October 6th, 2013, 12:26 PM   #347
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BTW it is a little weird to see modern european LRT system with high platforms. No low-floor cars and so on. Looks like a Stuttgart S-Bahn for me.
You're right it does look a little incongruous Jack but it all goes back to the way Britain (badly) funded public transport outside the capital in the 80s and 90s.

The UK's first modern Light Rail system (Metrolink in Manchester) was basically cobbled together (when there was very little funding available) by gluing together 2 former suburban heavy rail lines with a few km of new street running in the city centre. (There's a very good detailed history here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manches...rolink#Phase_1)

It was a clever solution given the lack of proper investment, but the down side was that the high platforms of the old stations were retained and this meant that high platforms also had to be used in the new sections through the centre too - with all the ramifications that had for ramps and access for the mobility impaired etc.

The expansion of Metrolink still suffers from that original decision (to retain high platforms) but at least it was handy when they converted more old rail lines (e.g. The Oldham/Rochdale line and the disused trackbed to East Didsbury).

The legacy of Manchester kick-starting LRT in Britain can now be seen in Sheffield, Croydon, Birmingham, Nottingham and soon Edinburgh, so we have to be thankful for small mercies, but Britain's great provincial cities still need billions of pounds more investment for them to resemble the provision most similar sized European cities are lucky enough to have had. One day maybe there will be S-Bahn's (and even U-Bahn's!) outside London - but that's probably several generations away
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Old October 10th, 2013, 10:51 PM   #348
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Another Metrolink line opening yesterday with trams now operating in commercial service to Ashton on the East Manchester Line. The usual group of forummers were present to experience the first tram.

Starting at Market Street for the 05:17 to Ashton

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3012 at Ashton after the first trip

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Ready to leave for Bury

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On board quite a good load from Ashton.

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Later around 07:30 3046 ready to leave for Bury.

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3001 at Ashton

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Ashton West with 3012 on its second trip

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3023 climbs towards Ashton West.

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A poor shot of 3023 and 3009 at Ashton West

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3054 at Ashton Moss

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3060 inbound at Ashton Moss

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Back in Ashton 3046 passes 3006 on Wellington Road.

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3049 approaching Audenshaw with Droylsden in the backgound

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3054 leaves Audenshaw

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and heads for Droylsden

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Ashton bound 3027 leaves Droylsden

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3001 On Droylsden Road

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Old October 11th, 2013, 12:58 AM   #349
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Any reason they didnt go low floor trams?
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Old October 11th, 2013, 01:15 AM   #350
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Because the initial system was built on the cheap reusing the old BR platforms on the Altrincham and Bury lines which were the standard height for heavy rail platforms
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Old October 11th, 2013, 01:46 AM   #351
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Cornbrook rocks

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The East Manchester line officially opens to Droylsden this Monday, but is de facto in operation now carrying passengers. Rochdale extension is not far behind. Here is the latest map

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CORNBROOK is still my favourite tram stop. but VICTORIA will be by next year
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Old November 9th, 2013, 12:11 AM   #352
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Old November 9th, 2013, 12:16 AM   #353
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They're fading fast now won't be long until there's none left

I notice in your last pic at Sale there's some orange men in the background, I assume they're working on the TMS equipment etc
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Old November 9th, 2013, 01:54 AM   #354
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Any reason they didnt go low floor trams?
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Because the initial system was built on the cheap reusing the old BR platforms on the Altrincham and Bury lines which were the standard height for heavy rail platforms

Originally the plan was to connect six former rail lines with existing standard height UK platforms by a short section of surface track through the city centre. This network would have only had three stops at street level and so lowering all those platforms wasn't worth it.

Original network plan:


Of course as the plan developed some of those branches were dropped and other street running lines were adopted instead that would have made low floor trams more useful, but by then the choice was made.

Projected network 2016:


Metrolink is always likely to stay more of a regional light rail system with some urban tram features than a more traditional tram system, so it's high floor vehicles won't be too much of a draw back. Indeed it seems that there are currently plans in the offing to convert several more heavy rail lines to the system, but maintain some heavy rail service on them, in which case high platforms are a useful feature.

Potential tram-train network 2020 onwards:
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Old November 10th, 2013, 09:30 PM   #355
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Yesterday presented an excuse to go to IKEA in Ashton and make use of the roof top car park for a few photos. The last 2 pushed the zoom on my compact camera to and beyond its limit.

Here we see road traffic held for 3042 crossing Lord Sheldon Way.

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A healthy payload alights at Ashton.

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Before 3042 returns to Eccles.

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Passing 3049 at Ashton West (sorry but the weather and zoom were taxing my skills).

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Having passed 3042 at Ashton West 3049 approaches journey's end.

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I then spotted 3042 crossing Ashton Moss in the distance.

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1009+1012 2001 2003 on Altrincham to Burys
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Trafford Centre tram extension could open in 2019

5 DEC, 2013

Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) are to debate the pros and cons of extending the city’s tram network to the Trafford Centre.

Officials will meet on Friday (December 5) to discuss the feasibility of a new 5.5-kilometre line from Pomona along the Manchester Ship Canal to the city’s shopping hub.

The new route would follow Trafford Wharf Road and Warren Bruce Road before running through the Village area of Trafford Park, crossing Parkway Circle and Bridgewater Canal.

If all goes to plan, the line could be completed in 2019.

Destinations including Old Trafford, the Imperial War Museum North and EventCity would all be connected to the city’s tram network by the link.

Funding is already in place to begin planning and designing the route, including an order for 10 new trams from Bombardier valued at £2 million a vehicle. TfGM said delaying the order by just a year could see the unit price increase by around £1.5 million.

Councillor Andrew Fender, chairman of the TfGM Committee, said: “There is a great deal of work ahead of us before we can start to think of shovels hitting the ground, but I’m really pleased that it is building momentum and I look forward to more progress being made in the coming months and years.”
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