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Old January 18th, 2015, 07:34 PM   #701
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Metrolink Deansgate Castlefield Update...

Plenty of activity around here the last few days as the old platform is now being demolished...

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Old January 19th, 2015, 01:43 PM   #702
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Old January 19th, 2015, 05:09 PM   #703
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My own take on the changes at Deansgate Castlefield this morning.

The eastern foot crossing with its neat timber decking fitted round the switch blades.

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The access footway behind the old outbound platform.

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There's a bit of a dogleg in it which I think may be to allow the installation of a set of points controller cubicles.

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The rusty equipment room.

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The new access has opened up a new viewpoint, or at least reopened an old one!

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The old outbound platform is quickly becoming nothing more than a pile of broken concrete and twisted steel.

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The eastern inbound points leading from the new inbound fitted with a spring point machine.

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As noted previously by others evidence of TMS equipment being installed.

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At the west end demolition isn't quite so far advanced.

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But as j616s says the bridge is fenced off now.

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There seemed to be plenty of staff around giving assistance and advice.

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Final view before catching my Altrincham tram

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More to follow from St Peters Square, 2CC and Victoria which will be posted shortly on the appropriate threads.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 05:39 PM   #704
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Next part of my marathon from today. The Metrolink works at Victoria have moved on over the last couple of weeks with more track and OLE installed.

Approaching from Corporation Street the new OLE installation at Balloon Street/Long Millgate is quite impressive if you can separate the new permanent stuff from the temporary work. Lots of new long cross spans.

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In these 2 shots note the pile of switch and crossing components awaiting installation.

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Also new building fixings on the Co-op buildings at the bottom of Balloon Street.

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From the couple of tiny gaps in the plastic sheeting on the mezzanine steps I managed to peek through to get these shots.

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Pointwork being installed over the Irk culvert

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Now up to the Cheetham Hill Road end, firstly off Platform 1

New OLE masts and also points being installed.

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The new outbound line. Note how close it is to Platform 1 road, no room for any extra rail capacity here.

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More cross spans for OLE through the platforms.

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One of the new shelters out beyond the roof.

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An overall view from the eastern footbridge.

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Installation of the new points adjacent to Cheetham Hill Road bridge.

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Another general view over the Metrolink works from the footbridge.

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Taken from the far side of Cheetham Hill Road bridge it looks as though the new track is now being linked to the old inbound and outbound lines north of the bridge.

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More photos from a heavy rail perspective shortly.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #705
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Part 3 of the Manchester walk through. Second City Crossing now from Deansgate Castlefield to Victoria.

Work in progress on Lower Mosley Street near the junction with Bishopsgate.

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Now approaching St Peters Square

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Where work now seems to have restarted following the archaeological surveys. The footprint of the church seems to be evident still.

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A large section of the tarmacked area is fenced off now with 3 or 4 large holes excavated in it. I wonder whether these will be for the foundations for OLE poles to take the wiring over the curves at the north end.

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As an aside the buildings scheduled for demolition on the eastern side are now clad in scaffolding and plastic sheeting and work seems to have commenced on them.

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Between Mosley Street and the bottom of Market Street there are still one or two areas of utility diversion work and the large site outside Cross Street Chapel is still shrouded in that massive tent.

Princess Street/Cooper Street

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Princess Street/Albert Square electricity works.

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A first generation tramway roadside isolator cabinet on the corner of Princess Street and Cross Street.

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John Dalton Street/Cross Street

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King Street/Cross Street

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The Cross Street Chapel site.

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Cross Street/Back Pool Fold and Chapel Walks area.

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Market Street where the fun really starts.

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The site of the temporary turnback facility.

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The views from the link bridge. I wish they could clean the glazing!

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Back at ground level, Exchange Square stop area.

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Now we cross Withy Grove junction and head towards Victoria where track laying has been in progress for a week or two.

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I was lucky enough to see a Thermit weld being carried out.

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Todd Street junction

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The line of the curve from Long Millgate

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This then links into the post I made of progress at Victoria http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=4600
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Old January 19th, 2015, 10:08 PM   #706
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If you can stand any more from Manchester here is the promised second part of my visit to Victoria Station, this time paying attention to the heavy rail part of the station and the electrification works forming part of the North West Electrification Project.

Not much seems to have happened on the roof recently. No more ETFE bags in place since my last visit in November I don't think.

November 18th

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January 19th

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The Booking Office looks nice now, but there again TonyH1 showed us this a while ago.

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You need a pair of binoculars to read the main display boards now!

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Paving up to the new gate line continues. There also appeared to be some staff training in progress on the gates themselves.

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There has been progress on the electrification front as well since my last visit.

There are now OLE structures at the east end of the platforms. The easternmost gantry over Platforms 5 and 6 has its top boom on whereas that for Platforms 3 and 4 still only exists in the form of uprights.

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Under the roof along Platforms 3 and 4 a start has been made on installing the steelwork on the roof structure to support the OLE wiring. Its not that easy to spot against the tubular lattice of the roof.

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At the west end more wiring has been strung now with 3 of the 4 roads now wired as far as the western footbridge.

Platforms 3 and 4 approaches.

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Although all this lot is earthed to the mast I was surprised just how close anyone using the bridge can get to the wires.

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Although it isn't easy to see, the wire for Platform 5 runs off to the left to anchor on the same mast as that for Platform 4. Only the approach to Platform 6 has no wire at present from what I could make out.

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Platforms 3 and 4 east end with the 2 masts for the last gantry before the anchor poles. There is no evidence of any further foundations as far as I can see. Although that is quite a long gap and they will have to run the wires off to the side without fouling the platform end signals. I can't see how they will do that without some additional structures or perhaps bridge arms if the footbridge is strong enough.

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Platform 5 and 6 gantry.

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That's all for now, thanks for viewing.
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Thanks freel for all these amazing photographs, much appreciated.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #708
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Metrolink Returns...

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Metrolink trams will roll back in to a new Manchester Victoria stop next month after a major overhaul to build new platforms and tracks.

The stop is expected to re-open to passengers by Wednesday 18 February, during a week of changes to Metrolink services that will allow an extended programme of work at Victoria and along Balloon Street to be completed.

The redesigned and expanded Metrolink stop will ultimately allow more frequent and flexible services to run through the iconic city centre railway station as part of the new Second City Crossing and wider tram network expansion.

During the project, managed and delivered by Network Rail as a key element of its redevelopment of the station, reduced services have been running through Victoria on a single line of track without stopping.

The final stages of the Metrolink project will require a sequence of changes to tram services over the course of next month’s half-term week.

Between Saturday 14 and Tuesday 17 February, no services will run to or through Victoria. The following services will run, alongside shuttle buses ferrying passengers into the city for drop-off and connections:



• Bury to Crumpsall (with shuttle bus between Crumpsall and Shudehill & Piccadilly Gardens)

• Oldham and Rochdale to Central Park (with shuttle bus between Central Park and Shudehill & Piccadilly Gardens)

• Altrincham to Piccadilly

• East Didsbury to Piccadilly

• Eccles to Ashton, via MediaCityUK

• Manchester Airport to Cornbrook



By Wednesday 18 February, trams from Bury and Rochdale will terminate at the new Victoria stop.

Services through Victoria – to Shudehill, Market Street and beyond – are expected to resume from the start of service on Saturday 21 February.

That milestone will result in the restoration of the six-minute service from Bury to the city centre and a direct Victoria to Piccadilly link.



Ian Joslin, area director for Network Rail, said: “The completion of and reopening of the tram stop at Manchester Victoria is a milestone in the redevelopment of the station.

"To allow us to complete the work, there will be changes to tram services between 14 and 21 February and we apologise for that.

“However, the result will ultimately be a better tram service with better connections to the railway as part of the stunning new Manchester Victoria station.”



Peter Cushing, TfGM’s Metrolink Director, said: “We’re looking forward to welcoming our customers back on board at Victoria as the station’s wider redevelopment enters its final stages.

“We’ve been working closely with Network Rail to ensure this important stop reopens as soon as possible because, although there will still be a lot of construction activity in the station when that happens, it will restore key services and connections for passengers.

“There will be changes to services in the run up to the reopening – during the traditionally quieter half-term period – and we’ll be publicising these as widely as possible.

“With such a major programme of improvements across the Metrolink system at the moment, we’re grateful for people’s patience and this is reflected in the decision to freeze Metrolink fares this year.”



The Metrolink network as a whole is benefiting from a £1.5 billion investment in new lines, new trams and stop improvements, and Manchester Victoria is a key part of the network-wide upgrade.

Last month, Greater Manchester’s council leaders and transport bosses agreed that there would be no fare increase for Metrolink tickets in January 2015. The decision was made in light of the significant improvement work taking place across the Metrolink network.

Alongside the Victoria stop, major transformation work is also under way at the Deansgate-Castlefield stop, on the way for the St Peter’s Square stop, and the Second City Crossing (2CC) tramline is being built through the city centre.

The fare freeze will remain in place until the end of August 2015 for customers using paper tickets on trams – and will remain in place until 2016 for customers who start using get me there smart tickets when they become available on Metrolink during 2015.

The Manchester Victoria Metrolink stop works and associated enhancements are being funded by the Greater Manchester Transport Fund and European Regional Development Fund Programme 2007 to 2013.
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As posted recently the Station at the Airport is now closed for several weeks to allow for major works....

Buses replacing some services in the meantime...

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Work in progress at the Airport Station










Low winter sun,the new roof and building safety screens make this project a challenge to photograph.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 04:20 PM   #710
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Hello! a bit off-topic but I will travel to Manchester for one month at least at i am interested to know which are my travel options within Manchester and Greater Manchester. Can someone help with a brief summary? I am interested to know where and how much it will cost to buy a monthly pass. I've tried to read some info on Metrolink website but i seem to not understand very well what i have to do. Do i absolutely need to be a member of the Travel Club or not? it seems it takes up to 5 WD to process an application. Perhaps i understood it wrong. Can i buy a monthly ticket from a machine or ticket desk at the airport (if any)?
In brief, what would be the best way to do it so that i won't lose time nor money?
I do not know where i will be staying (perhaps in Greater Manchester or in the city center) so taking into account both options will be greatly appreciated in any of your responses.
Thanks!

ps. are buses and trains within Greater Manchester part of Metrolink too? so the ticket if monthly will apply to all means of transportation right?
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Puss we will get back to you.
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Hello! a bit off-topic but I will travel to Manchester for one month at least at i am interested to know which are my travel options within Manchester and Greater Manchester. Can someone help with a brief summary? I am interested to know where and how much it will cost to buy a monthly pass. I've tried to read some info on Metrolink website but i seem to not understand very well what i have to do. Do i absolutely need to be a member of the Travel Club or not? it seems it takes up to 5 WD to process an application. Perhaps i understood it wrong. Can i buy a monthly ticket from a machine or ticket desk at the airport (if any)?
In brief, what would be the best way to do it so that i won't lose time nor money?
I do not know where i will be staying (perhaps in Greater Manchester or in the city center) so taking into account both options will be greatly appreciated in any of your responses.
Thanks!

ps. are buses and trains within Greater Manchester part of Metrolink too? so the ticket if monthly will apply to all means of transportation right?
Hello,

I don't use them myself, but the System One Cards might be an option if you don't know when how and where you'll be traveling around the city

http://www.systemonetravelcards.co.uk/

They offer integrated travel on train (within reason), tram and/or bus.
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Hello! a bit off-topic but I will travel to Manchester for one month at least at i am interested to know which are my travel options within Manchester and Greater Manchester. Can someone help with a brief summary? I am interested to know where and how much it will cost to buy a monthly pass. I've tried to read some info on Metrolink website but i seem to not understand very well what i have to do. Do i absolutely need to be a member of the Travel Club or not? it seems it takes up to 5 WD to process an application. Perhaps i understood it wrong. Can i buy a monthly ticket from a machine or ticket desk at the airport (if any)?
In brief, what would be the best way to do it so that i won't lose time nor money?
I do not know where i will be staying (perhaps in Greater Manchester or in the city center) so taking into account both options will be greatly appreciated in any of your responses.
Thanks!

ps. are buses and trains within Greater Manchester part of Metrolink too? so the ticket if monthly will apply to all means of transportation right?
A quick reply, that might help:
  1. Metrolink and the Buses and Trains are not part of an integrated fare system, you either buy seperate tickets for each or look into the System One described above
  2. All Metrolink and rail passes that are good for longer than 1 wk require you to have an appropriate photo travel card. While I am not sure you can get these at the airport rail station, you can get them at the TFGM Travelshops (including the one by the Piccadilly Gardens tram stop). If you post off for one it takes several days. Walk in with the applicaiton and a passport photo and you get it then and there. After that you can purchase a 4 week ticket for the tram (and maybe system one cards) at the same desk or from any of the Metrolink TVMs.
  3. While you can purchase 4wk tickets for specific routes from the TVMs, I believe you can get a whole system Metrolink ticket from the travelshop - I think this is ~£100 for 4 weeks
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It's really confusing because it's not an integrated system like London.

You can get a Metrolink season ticket, but that only applies to Metrolink. You have to be a member of the Travel Club to get a season ticket that lasts more than 7 days (this is to prevent people from transferring long-term season tickets). You can join (for free) by post in advance of coming to the city and then buy the ticket when you get to Manchester.

You can get SystemOne passes, which can be either bus-only (Bus Saver) or bus+train (County Card). The County Card also includes CityZone trams, but not the full tram network.

You can also get a discounted bus-only SystemOne (Buscard Extra) if you have a Metrolink season ticket, this will let you use bus and tram (so a Metrolink Season plus Buscard Extra is bus and tram but not train, while a County Card is bus and train but not tram).

You can get rail season tickets for any pair of stations in the UK, and if either of the stations is in Greater Manchester, then you can also get a SystemOne Buscard Extra. This can be cheaper than a CountyCard (but is restricted on trains to just the one route), or can allow for a train from outside Greater Manchester. You can also get a rail season to the station on the boundary of Greater Manchester and then a CountyCard from there.

On top of all these, each of the bus companies in Manchester has their own season ticket system, which are cheaper than the equivalent SystemOne Bus Saver. For instance, the FirstMonth (First) is £50 for 31 days, the Megarider (Stagecoach) is £48 for 28 days but the SystemOne Adult Bus Saver (all bus companies) is £61 for 28 days. Obviously, if you get a particular company's season ticket, then you can only use it on that company's buses, where a SystemOne card works on all buses in the county.

Note that you can't get a tram+bus ticket for longer than one day; you have to get a tram season ticket and then a Buscard Extra from SystemOne (this is because the tram tickets are going over to an electronic system and TfGM wants to be able to go to electronic tram tickets and a paper bus add-on).

Both tram and train season tickets are sold on a particular route, ie from one station to another, and not as system-wide passes. You can get a county-wide ticket for the trains through the SystemOne County Card (which also includes buses), but you can't get a full-system tram ticket that lasts longer than one day (apart from weekend cards).

Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) are introducing a new zonal system with their new touch-payment getmethere card, some time later this year. But for the moment, it's quite a mess.
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Thank you all so much for your inputs. Reviewing all your comments I should say that it's pretty more what I have understood also from the websites of Metrolink and Greater Manchester but as our colleague po8crg said in such a blunt manner, it seems to be a bit of a mess with all the different systems. And the fact that you have to be member of Travel Club to be able to access season tickets puts a bit more of bureaucracy in front of simple tourists. It should be more simple and easier for one time travellers to Manchester to get along with the local transport.
Just one question: if I am not able to send the documents by post (i've seen that on the web) can I apply locally? are there shops in the city of Manchester? i've seen a list of travel shops (I think they are called no?) but they seem to be in the Greater Manchester area. Do the 5 working days to process the request apply? or is it done right away? (somehow i can sense that the answer is no, otherwise the 5 WDs won't have any sense).

All in all, thank you so much once again for the inputs. I appreciate the time you took to answer me. Cheers!
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Walked in to work to a sea of light!!

What a difference it makes!



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From Manchester Evening News:

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Piccadilly and Oxford Road stations revamp backed by town hall bosses
Jan 21, 2015 14:30



But council chiefs raise concerns over plans - and disruption for residents

Town hall bosses have backed the multi-million pound revamp of Piccadilly and Oxford Road stations - despite having some concerns.

Manchester council has responded to Network Rail’s consultation on the ‘Northern Hub’ which will see a major upgrade of both interchanges by 2018.

But it has raised concerns over the design, particularly the way Piccadilly will fit in with its own plans to regenerate the surrounding area ahead of the HS2 rail link.

They want a new southern entrance to the station in order to fit in with those plans - but Network Rail says it has no money for that and has rejected their alternative design. It says it ‘supports the aspiration’, however

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Transport bosses reveal plans to use special 'tram-train' to connect Stockport to Metrolink system...


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The ‘tram train’ technology - which allows adapted trams to use existing heavy rail lines - would allow the route to run along the Stockport-Altrincham-Chester line for much of the distance lans to connect Stockport to the Metrolink network with a special ‘tram train’ system have been revealed.

Proposals are on the table to create an orbital route running from Reddish through the Heatons into Stockport and then out through Edgeley, Cheadle Heath, Cheadle, Gatley and Baguley.

The ‘tram train’ technology - which allows adapted trams to use existing heavy rail lines - would allow the route to run along the Stockport-Altrincham-Chester line for much of the distance.

Tram train possibilities have been discussed previously by TfGM - and a £60m pilot using one of flexible vehicles is due to take place in Sheffield.

Its supporters say its use in Greater Manchester would reduce cost and inconvenience by minimising the amount of new track that has to be laid.

Cheadle MP Mark Hunter said: “These proposals, backed by Stockport council and TfGM, are a major step forward and there’s now a real opportunity to have trams running on the new line in a decade or less. We have a solid economic case, but there is still a lot of work to do. We have to show that this has strong community support and a good business case if we’re going to get the funding to get this on the ground.”

The proposals come in a rail study for Stockport, published jointly by Stockport council and Transport for Greater Manchester.

It was initiated last year by Councillor Iain Roberts and, in addition to a new orbital tram route from Reddish through Cheadle and Gatley to Manchester Airport, also proposes introducing a tram service on the Marple-Manchester line, extending the East Didsbury Metrolink line into Stockport and through to Hazel Grove, and improving rail stations - especially Stockport Station.

It also deals with the challenges HS2 will bring - with a proposal to connect the West Coast Mainline with high speed rail to ensure Stockport remains a key hub.

Coun Roberts, deputy leader of Stockport council, said: “Stockport already has strong transport links and by improving what we currently have and further developing the rail network we can take a logical step forward in improving connectivity across the south of Manchester and beyond.”

Coun Andrew Fender, chairman of the TfGM Committee, said: “At this point, tram-train is one of the longer term projects for Greater Manchester and it is something we will continue to support as strongly as we can.

“Since we agreed an initial strategy at the end of 2013, a lot of detailed work has been undertaken to ensure that, as and when the opportunity arises in terms of both funding and powers, we can realise the benefits of tram-train as soon as possible.

“This very useful report from Stockport council will feed into our future plans and inform our ongoing engagement with Rail North.”

For more information on the Stockport Rail Strategy, visit www.stockport.gov.uk/railstrategy

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I am looking at a Tram map for Greater Manchester. Are there really so few stops within the actual city? In what is called City Zone I saw only 7 stops, St.Peter's Square being the largest by number of lines (5).
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I am looking at a Tram map for Greater Manchester. Are there really so few stops within the actual city? In what is called City Zone I saw only 7 stops, St.Peter's Square being the largest by number of lines (5).
St. Peter's Square has actually served by four lines. This map explains better geographical position of stops:
http://www.tfgm.com/journey_planning...URE-PS-GEO.pdf
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