HUNGARY - Stadium and Arena Development News

[alwn]

Originally Posted by tom77

First of all, the 69 k of Puskás Stadium is not true, because the one-sided middle and upper tiers are in a very bad state of repair, and not allowed to use. The actual capacity is about 28-30 k (only the lower tier).

So, I think the upper tier (or the middle and upper tier) will be demolished or strenghtened. Not decided yet. The Hungarian Athletic Association needs this stadium for trainings and competitions. And I think the old stadium after renovation will be proper for concerts and other smaller events.

Yes, the space nearby looks too small for a 65 k stadium indeed, but engineers says that's just enough.

same discussion we had also in Romania few years ago. Many wanted to keep the old national stadium (53.000 places) because of the tradition and the athletic track or at least to build a new one with running track again.. As usually the athletic federation was very noisy even they didnt host a competion with more then 5 k spectators since 80's. Hopefully they dropped out with all these stupid ideas and they built a brand new Football National Arena (55.200 places) on the same spot without atheltic track if course. What about athletics? well they have a small stadium (but nice!) in the northern part of Bucharest with all the facilities and 1 big stand. It is perfect for trainings and small competition when they have place even for 5-6.000 spectators. Of course it is not the case in Romania, if we exceed 1000 at athletics would be an event!. Of course for trainings you dont need 50.000 places so this small atheltic stadium is perfect. If by any chance Romania would host a big competition we have Cluj Arena, the new stadium from Cluj (30.000 places) which has athletic track. I believe same will be in Budapest, turn down the old Nepstadion (even it is a place full of history) and build a new Football stadium (50-60.000) avalaible for concerts as well. Athletics can move to smaller facilities. Even the engineers said that is enough place, modern stadiums need more space in the surroundings, comercial places, malls..

[jandeczentar]

Keeping the Puskas Stadium with a track sounds like a waste to me. I don't know how popular track & field events are in Hungary but if they're anything like the rest of the world then they really don't need a stadium that big unless they're hosting the Olympics or the World Championships.

They could demolish the existing upper deck (if it's in such a bad state then they probably should anyway). Remove the track and then lower the level of the field and use the space to build a new lower deck. Depending on exactly how it was done, it should yield a total capacity of 40-50,000. Then build a new roof on the top and, voila: Hungary has a perfectly good national stadium and a potential venue for at least the Europa League Final. Track & Field could be relocated to a newer, smaller and more suitable venue elsewhere.

I don't know exactly how feasible this would be, especially in a stadium as old as the Puskas. However, the concept has been used before. It is how Etihad Stadium in Manchester was built and how the track was removed from Mercedes-Benz Arena in Stuttgart so it is possible.

[alwn]

You forgot the reconstruction of the stands behind goals. This was what happened in Stuttgart or Bremen. Indeed Nepstadion (Puskas Ferenc) is too old to be modernized. Has to be reconstructed.

[tom77]

New Albert Stadium

Capacity: 22.600
Location: Budapest, Hungary
Home team: Ferencváros (FTC)
Planned inauguration: 2014

[Genç]

Wow, great news!! Ferencvaros is my favourite team in Hungary, not what they used to be but I can see a resurgence in the future Especially if plans go ahead with this new stadium...it's probably possible to expand in the future, right?

But isn't the current Albert stadion around ~18,000 anyway? Why not more than just 22,600, seems a very small increase....

[Gombos]

23k?? why not 30k to host Euro with us?

[Evil78]

Originally Posted by tom77

New Albert Stadium

Capacity: 22.600
Location: Budapest, Hungary
Home team: Ferencváros (FTC)
Planned inauguration: 2014

I see that it's the same location like the present stadium, near the Nepliget Bus-station. It means that they will have to demolish the old stadium first. Does somebody really belive that this stadium will be built until 2014, or is it just another artistic sketch? We have seen a lot of those in the last 5-6 years.

[tom77]

New Nagyerdei Stadion (Great Forest Stadium)

Capacity: 20.020
Location: Debrecen, Hungary
Home team: DVSC (Debreceni VSC)
Planned inauguration: 2014

[Genç]

Again, a great design, but such a small capacity!

[tom77]

Design of Great Forest Stadium introduced

The conceptual plans of the new stadium to be built in Debrecen were presented on Thursday. The construction of the arena and the reconstruction of its environment are scheduled to begin this autumn and planned to end in the spring of 2014.

The plans were presented at a convention held on Thursday, 4 May. Péter Bordás designer highlighted the fact that with the construction of the Great Forest arena, Hungary will have its first 4th generation stadium which will provide the possibility to organize not only football matches but also other sport events. Péter Bordás stressed that when building the stadium special care must be taken about the environment. The plans show an asymmetrical facility the eastern side of which are smaller than the western side functioning as the main tribune.
Mayor Kósa Lajos said the design was adapted to the new standards to be introduced by UEFA in 2015. The Great Forest stadium will be suitable for organizing any kind of football matches except for Champions League finals, world cup matches and European Championship finals. According to Lajos Kósa, previous investments like the Főnix Hall, the athletics stadium or the new swimming pool have already proved that it’s worth starting major developments and Debrecen can set an example for other larger cities and towns in this field.



Designer Péter Bordás introducing the plans of the Great Forest Stadium.

[Genç]

Why are they building such a size though, aren't there any ambitions to host the Euros in the future?

[cornelinho]

i don.t think they want euro

[Sponsor]

What is this must be 30+ about?
UEFA Euro is complex event. You can't build few stadiums too big just in case. Capacity needs to be in line with supply and demand for football games.

[tom77]

Visualization of the new Great Forest Stadium (Debrecen, Hungary):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSRwU2n6qMQ

[makaay31]

Why don't they renovate Albert Stadium? It will be less expensive and it will take less time to make it ready.

Some pics I took a few years ago. It could be easily renovated.

[DimitriB]

the New Nagyerdei Stadion (Great Forest Stadium) of Debrecen reminds me of the stadium of Slavia Prague.

[tom77]

Originally Posted by DimitriB

theNew Nagyerdei Stadion (Great Forest Stadium) of Debrecen reminds me of the stadium of Slavia Prague.

Yes, a little bit of similarity, both has asymetric facility and almost the same capacity.
The difference is that during the construction special care must be taken about the environment, because the stadium must be adapted to the Great Forest of Debrecen.
According to the plans the design was also adapted to the new standards to be introduced by UEFA in 2015.

Anyway, the main difference is that the stadium exists in Prague, in Debrecen we have seen just visualizations for about the last 10 years...
Maybe this version becomes a reality!

[Sisimoto the HUN]

South Africa - Cape Town stadion built for the 2010 football world championship.(55.000+ seats capacity)



China - Beijing "Bird nest" olimpic stadium.(80.000 seats capacity)



Portugal - Leiria municipal stadium.(30.000 seats capacity)

Anyone knows what is the common in these stadiums?

Is that they are standing unutilized for years now..And these are only few from the world and in europe there are much more sad examples.

[tom77]

Model of Great Forest Stadium in wind tunnel

Árpád Varga department engineer is examining the 1:150 scale model of the Great Forest Stadium to be constructed in Debrecen. The examinations that tested the bearing capacities of the roof have been carried out in a wind tunnel laboratory in Budapest.

[MG|Loznica|]

Very nice project is Great Forest Stadium. Which club is going to play on it ?
I love stadiums with small capacity.