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Old February 6th, 2007, 09:16 AM   #301
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yeah, i forgot about TOUCH N GO
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Old February 6th, 2007, 09:48 AM   #302
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Touch & Go is alvailable for use on the LRT, touch & go cards r not standard, many do not use it and prefer to buy single trip tickets
Why do people still use single trip? Are single trip fares equal to the fares paid via multi trip stored value tickets like Touch n Go?

It seems obvious that multi trip cards are way more convenient, especially for Touch n Go which you dont even have to take out of the wallet.
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Old February 6th, 2007, 09:51 AM   #303
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do you know why?...becoz MALAYSIA when comes to build something big/sophisticated look, we are the first(most people think that way). but when it comes to maintenance...it is world's worst!!...i'm really sick of it.

btw, the multiple trips ticket only available for bus services.
Jus curious, how do you use multi trip tix on buses?

Touch and go is available on buses too right? Tap in and tap out?

Thanks, just being very curious...
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Old February 7th, 2007, 01:00 AM   #304
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Looks like a very nice, diverse and rather extensive system.
I especially like the design of the stations and the monorail.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 08:04 AM   #305
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Jus curious, how do you use multi trip tix on buses?

Touch and go is available on buses too right? Tap in and tap out?

Thanks, just being very curious...
Right now you ask the driver to print out a daily pass for you. There are 6 choices

Local Shuttle - RM1 - No concession
City Shuttle - RM2 - RM1 concession
Trunk Bus - RM2 - RM1 concession
Express bus - RM4 - Concession unsure
Comprehensive bus pass (excludes express buses) RM4 - RM3 concession
Full daily bus and LRT pass - RM7 - RM6 concession.

You pay on board the first bus, and show the ticket to the driver as you board subsequent buses, for the entire day. RapidKL does not have any trip tracking (e.g. monitoring how many multiple trips you take), or off board fare collection.

TnG is available on the buses now (soft launched) but it is not a tap in/tap out system.

From what I gathered, you tap when you board, and the reader deducts RM1 or RM2 depending on the type of bus. If you board the same type of bus and tap in, there will be no additional deduction.

However, if you board an RM2 City Shuttle bus and then board the RM2 Trunk bus and tap in, the reader will deduct another RM2.

If you then board any other regular bus and tap in, the reader will not deduct anymore money because you have reached the RM4daily max (for regular bus services). On the other hand, if you board an express bus (which normally costs RM4) you would only pay RM3 more (because there is a daily max of RM7).

Why dont Malaysian public transit users use TnG? Because it is poorly marketed. RapidKL hasnt even launched it properly. And it seems rather complicated......

Also TnG appears mostly for car drivers (mostly) and because there is no discount in it and because the reader have such small screens you cannot even read the fare info.

As for the TVMs, they only accept 1 note (not RM1, but only 1) per transaction, many Malaysians dont carry change, dont use TnG, so must queue up to buy tickets.

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Old February 7th, 2007, 08:08 AM   #306
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That's right Oshkoshgood ! The maintenance is really bad ! Even in premier KL Sentral station most of da ticket machines are out of order .

They can simply send technicians to repair everything

Look at Japan on how they maintain everything well
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Old February 7th, 2007, 08:11 AM   #307
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TnG is available on the buses now (soft launched) but it is not a tap in/tap out system.

From what I gathered, you tap when you board, and the reader deducts RM1 or RM2 depending on the type of bus. If you board the same type of bus and tap in, there will be no additional deduction.

However, if you board an RM2 City Shuttle bus and then board the RM2 Trunk bus and tap in, the reader will deduct another RM2.

If you then board another bus (any bus) and tap in, the reader will not deduct anymore money because you have reached the RM4 daily max (for regular bus services). On the other hand, if you board an express bus (which normally costs RM4) you would only pay RM3 more (because there is a daily max of RM7).

Why dont Malaysian public transit users use TnG? Because it is poorly marketed. RapidKL hasnt even launched it properly. And it seems rather complicated......

Also TnG appears mostly for car drivers (mostly) and because there is no discount in it and because the reader have such small screens you cannot even read the fare info.

As for the TVMs, they only accept 1 note (not RM1, but only 1) per transaction, many Malaysians dont carry change, dont use TnG, so must queue up to buy tickets.

Cheers, m
Looks like Touch n Go is a great system (because it uses the contactless smart card tech which is commonplace nowadays) but it suffers from POOR implementation.

Thanks for the clarification. No wonder there's even a website http://klcommuter.blogspot.com dedicated to transport complaints, because there are a lot.

Is a major revamp on the cards then? Revamping Putra and Star into RapidKL was a good start, and the logo and branding is quite nice, except that this is as far as improvements go and the website still looks sucky.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 08:13 AM   #308
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Right now you ask the driver to print out a daily pass for you. There are 6 choices

Local Shuttle - RM1 - No concession
City Shuttle - RM2 - RM1 concession
Trunk Bus - RM2 - RM1 concession
Express bus - RM4 - Concession unsure
Comprehensive bus pass (excludes express buses) RM4 - RM3 concession
Full daily bus and LRT pass - RM7 - RM6 concession.

You pay on board the first bus, and show the ticket to the driver as you board subsequent buses, for the entire day. RapidKL does not have any trip tracking (e.g. monitoring how many multiple trips you take), or off board fare collection.

TnG is available on the buses now (soft launched) but it is not a tap in/tap out system.

From what I gathered, you tap when you board, and the reader deducts RM1 or RM2 depending on the type of bus. If you board the same type of bus and tap in, there will be no additional deduction.

However, if you board an RM2 City Shuttle bus and then board the RM2 Trunk bus and tap in, the reader will deduct another RM2.

If you then board any other regular bus and tap in, the reader will not deduct anymore money because you have reached the RM4daily max (for regular bus services). On the other hand, if you board an express bus (which normally costs RM4) you would only pay RM3 more (because there is a daily max of RM7).

Why dont Malaysian public transit users use TnG? Because it is poorly marketed. RapidKL hasnt even launched it properly. And it seems rather complicated......

Also TnG appears mostly for car drivers (mostly) and because there is no discount in it and because the reader have such small screens you cannot even read the fare info.

As for the TVMs, they only accept 1 note (not RM1, but only 1) per transaction, many Malaysians dont carry change, dont use TnG, so must queue up to buy tickets.

Cheers, m
If there's one thing about transport in KL that I like is that its got like daily monthly etc travelcards for unlimited travel right...and there's a fare cap.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 08:19 AM   #309
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If there's one thing about transport in KL that I like is that its got like daily monthly etc travelcards for unlimited travel right...and there's a fare cap.
There is no other city than KL offering ticket for one whole day !
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Old February 8th, 2007, 04:27 AM   #310
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There is no other city than KL offering ticket for one whole day !
who says?..nagoya has!
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Old February 8th, 2007, 06:26 AM   #311
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There is no other city than KL offering ticket for one whole day !
I think what he really meant was that not many Asian cities offer daily tickets.
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Old February 9th, 2007, 10:53 AM   #312
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Why are there so many people queuing up to get tickets, even if the machines are spoilt? Isnt stored value tickets for multiple trips the standard?

And why are all the machines spoilt at one shot?

Just curious...since you posted a pic of such a sight.
The ticket machines on the STAR LRT line are being upgraded recently,hence some machines cannot be used or were removed. Only the STAR LRT line was affected,the Putra LRT line was not affected.

KLites shoul use Touch n Go and Passes to use the LRT lines since the TnG card can be conveiniently reloaded almost everywhere.
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::Kuala Lumpur Public Transport::


KTM Komuter is an electrified commuter train service first introduced in 1995, catering especially to commuters in Kuala Lumpur and the surrounding suburban areas. It is a popular mode of transportation for commuters working in Kuala Lumpur, as they can travel to the city without the hassle of traffic congestion. Coaches are modern and air-conditioned. For those who drive to the stations/halts, 'Park & Ride' facility is provided at a nominal charge.



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Rapid KL, short for Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd is a government-owned company which was formed in 2004 as part of the restructuring of the public transport system in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia's capital.

Rapid KL, which is 100%-owned by the government, is the operator of Kuala Lumpur's three light rail transit (LRT) lines. It is also the largest stage bus (regular or trunk bus route) and feeder bus operator in Kuala Lumpur.

All assets of the LRT and bus service is owned by another government-owned company, Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB) which was also formed under the restructing process.

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KLIA Transit is a rail service linking Kuala Lumpur, the capital of Malaysia, and the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) operated by Express Rail Link Sdn Bhd (ERL). It shares the same tracks as the KLIA Ekspres but unlike the direct airport express service, KLIA Transit stops at three other stations.

Both KLIA Transit and KLIA Ekspres services are often reffered to by Malaysians simply as ERL.


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All very nice. Now it's time for the authorities to physically connect the interchange stations. They should start with Masjid Jamek and Hang Tuah. For Masjid Jamek, the concourse for trains headed towards Sri Petaling and the surface entrance for the Kelana Jaya line. For Hang Tuah, the unfinished staircase from the monorail station to the concourse of the LRT Sri Petaling line.
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Since KTM uses narrow gauge,the commuter trains are so narrow and gets full quickly.KTM should consider using longer trains,at least 6 coaches per train like the STAR LRT. It's kinda funny that the platform at KTM commuter stations are longer than the trains.
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