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Old April 26th, 2007, 06:36 AM   #361
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Cool to see I'm not the only one who thinks monorail is a good form of transit. Whenever I bring the idea up in the Toronto forums, I find it is not a very a popular idea, to say the least...
Electrify, sorry to say but I dont think much of monorail...Im not really against or for it

I have suggested this particular monorail line because it would work for a street like Jalan Ampang, and because KL already has a monorail...and is used to elevated rapid transit....whereas Toronto is completely unused to the idea of elevated or at grade rapid transit, and it is unwelcome in most places.

When KLInfrastructure Group (owner of the KL monorail) announced plans for a monorail network of 4 lines, I wrote up against it...arguing that it would not have the necessary capacity and would cost too much....and that realistically, the monorail in KL is only ever going to be a people mover service.

Heck, I dont even agree with the LRT construction as it is being done...especially because I think that the use of modern trams would be far more efficient and lower in cost....

but then, thats me...like I said, KL has implemented monorail, it's there and it isnt going to disappear, so Id like to explore the possibilities towards making it better....as a people mover around KLs Golden Triangle area and to major commercial and tourist spots

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To refersh everyone's memory,this is the KL monorail.Not many monorail pics in this forum.

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Old April 27th, 2007, 03:03 PM   #363
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Old April 27th, 2007, 05:19 PM   #365
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Old April 27th, 2007, 07:25 PM   #367
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Old May 1st, 2007, 08:56 AM   #368
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Light Rail Transit Station, Hang Tuah, Kuala Lumpur.

very cool photo...i love the effect of the b & w played against the yellow...very smooth.

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Old May 1st, 2007, 09:07 PM   #369
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New buses introduced to make it easier on commuters
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New fleet: Currently, 39 of the new buses
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TO further promote comfortable commuting, Rapid KL has introduced a fleet of new long haul buses to serve different routes in the Klang Valley.

There are currently 39 of these buses and the numbers are expected to increase to 150 by the middle of this month.

Eighteen of these buses have been allocated for the express lines – E1 from Putrajaya Sentral to Pasar Seni, E2 from Terminal Kajang to Pasar Seni and E4 from Klang to Pasar Seni.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 10:19 AM   #372
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Subang Jaya LRT extension

Interesting article on LRT today in The Star...

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.as...86&sec=central

Where Subang Jaya folks want their LRT line

The people of Subang Jaya are all for a plan to extend the LRT line from Kelana Jaya to Subang Jaya under the Government’s special RM10bil allocation to improve the Klang Valley’s public transportation system. The plan, announced last year, will be implemented under the Ninth Malaysia Plan. StarMetrochecks out the latest developments in the area related to the coming LRT line.

A proposal on the routes and halts for the extended Putra LRT service in Subang Jaya has been presented to Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) - the holding company under the Ministry of Finance Incorporated that owns the rail lines.

Subang Jaya assemblyman Datuk Lee Hwa Beng said the proposed routes and halts were the result of discussions with residents representatives and the Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ).

”SPNB has been briefed on the routes and the reasons why we have chosen them,” said Lee, adding that the routes were picked based on factors such as accessibility for commuters, parking facilities and the location of places of interest.


Proposed station: One of the LRT halts proposed is between The Summit shopping centre, Giant and Mydin hypermarkets.
”The proposal, with a total of seven stops, was submitted to the company (SPNB) early this year.

“We have been very careful in planning the routes so that the service will be able to cover the whole of Subang Jaya without missing the high density areas such as shopping complexes, colleges and medium and low-cost residential areas.

“The routes proposed are a distance away from houses to prevent any form of sound pollution or danger in residential areas,’’ Lee told StarMetro in a special interview.

According to the proposed routes, Lee said, the LRT train from Kelana Jaya would be making its first stop near the Subang Jaya Komuter Station, which will be interfaced with the LRT halt.

He said the area was strategic due to the availability of ample parking space and the location of Subang Parade and Carrefour not far from the Komuter station.

“The second stop will be between SS14 and SS15 where there are five major colleges while Bandar Sunway will be the third stop. The management of the Sunway Group have expressed their intention of reviving their monorail project to complement the LRT.


Rail link: A train stopping at the Subang Jaya KTM Komuter station which will be interfaced with the proposed LRT route from Kelana Jaya.
“More than 4,000 residents will benefit from the fourth halt which will be located at the Lagoon Park and the fifth one will be placed at USJ1 where there are more than 6,000 low and medium-cost houses,’’ he said

The sixth one, Lee said, was strategic for shopping as it would be built between the Summit Shopping Centre, Giant and Mydin.

The seventh halt would be located on a 1ha plot of MPSJ land in USJ8 where a bazaar and hawker centre are located. “This halt will be located not far from the commercial zone and light industrial zone and will enable factory and office workers to make use of the LRT service.’’

Besides the proposed routes and halts, Lee said, he left it to SPNB to decide on other possible routes that could be added to the initial proposal.

He said he expected the company to make alterations to the proposed routes and halts but hoped that the proposed routes would not be left out.

“SPNB should look into ways to expand the routes such as including new areas and not change the routes that we have proposed.

“I hope they will also consider connecting the Star LRT from Bukit Jalil to Subang Jaya via Puchong so that we will have more option for our residents’’ he said

Lee said the proposal was being finalised and was expected to be the presented to the Cabinet meeting for approval soon.
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Residents can’t wait for project to start
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.as...44&sec=central

SUBANG JAYA residents are eagerly waiting for the proposed extension of the Putra LRT line from Kelana Jaya to the housing area.

Students, housewives, retirees, office and factory workers alike are keeping their fingers crossed that the project which was announced by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi last year will take off soon.

Besides looking forward to avoiding traffic congestion, they feel that the LRT service would provide Subang Jaya residents with quick access to the various desinations within the town and other areas such as Petaling Jaya and parts of Kuala Lumpur.

A check by StarMetro revealed that most people were aware of the proposed project and agreed that it was high time that the project be implemented.

“Subang Jaya has seen tremondous growth over recent years and rail service like the LRT is now a necessity here,” said executive Lim Teng Kee.

“Flyovers are being built all over the place and yet they are not helping to ease traffic congestion on the roads. The LRT is the best option for those who wish to keep away from the busy roads,” he added.

Retired technician S. Muthusamy, 65, of SS19 hoped that all the major areas in Subang Jaya would be connected under the proposed LRT routes.

He said the rail system would be effective only if all the major areas were connected and if it benefited residents from all walks of life.

“The routes must cover residential areas with a high population of the lower and medium-income group as they will need the service more than those from the affluent areas,” he added.

“Subang Jaya will become more popular among people from the other areas including Kuala Lumpur once the LRT service is made available here,” said Firdaus Muhammad from Bandar Sunway.

The 24-year-old marketing officer said the Government should not be delaying the project any further considering the rapid growth experienced by the township.

“LRT will not only make Subang Jaya a better place but will enhance the quality of life for the people here,” said Firdaus

Student Chung Jeng Shian from SEGi College said there was a dire need for this mode of transportation in the town especially for students like him.

“We find it very difficult to go from one place to another due to the lack of public transport and having the LRT will be great,” he said.

Liyana Mohd Jani, 21, from USJ11 said travelling via LRT would be comfortable, fast and safe compared to public bus and taxi.

She said buses were slow in coming while taxi drivers tend to overcharge passengers by not using the meters.

“The LRT would be a great option for travelling within Subang Jaya,” she added.

SEG International Bhd senior director for group marketing Bruce Lim Aun Choong said thousands of students and working class people would be benefiting from the proposed LRT project.

Currently, he said, his college was forced to hire vans and mini-buses to provide shuttle service for their students.

“There will be no reason for us to provide transport if Subang Jaya is connected by LRT,” he added.
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Here is my view....

I agree with the LRT line in principle but I think that the planning has to be done very carefully.

I also worry that the money spent in Subang Jaya should be spent carefully...right now the basic public transportation system still needs a lot of work to improve it.

RE: LRT Extension to Subang Jaya

I refer to the reports "Where Subang Jaya folks want their LRT line" and "Residents can't wait for project to start" which were published on 23 May 2007.

I am a regular user of bus, KTM, and LRT services and regularly advocate better public transit and better public transport. I am excited by the LRT extension, and definitely pleased that many people are taking an interest in public transit and the LRT project.

However, I have some concerns about the overall planning for the route of the LRT extensions.

LRT is usually designed as the backbone of the transport system. This backbone rail service is meant to provide a simple, fast, and direct route to the destination. In this case, the destination for many people in Subang Jaya and USJ would presumably be Kuala Lumpur.

Designing the LRT extension to wind its way through Subang Jaya and Bandar Sunway and USJ is a good idea on paper, because it will service many areas with potential passengers.

Unfortunately, there is nothing to prove that these potential passengers will use the LRT once it is built. If the number of passengers who use the LRT is below expectations, then a lot of money will be lost.

There are a few reasons why people might not want to use the LRT. Firstly, this suggested routing is anything but direct. Winding through the housing estates will take time, and that will make the service less appealing. The additional distance and travel time will also lead to increased costs for RapidKL because the LRT trains will spend increased time in the suburban areas, where there are fewer passengers. Many of the potential passengers may not wish to pay RM4-6 per day for the LRT travel.

Another problem is that the real situation on the street may not be understood. Much of the space between the areas planned for LRT stations is already heavily developed. For example, to connect KTM Subang Jaya to Bandar Sunway, the LRT would probably have to travel over the New Pantai Expressway (formerly Jalan Subang Utama) for much of its alignment. Building an LRT along or above a private expressway will lead to very high engineering costs. Another problem might appear at the roundabout at Pers. Kewajipan (beside Metropolitan College). This roundabout now has 2 flyovers above it, and the 3rd is under construction. Finding a way for LRT to pass over or around the roundabout, which would be very costly. The neighbourhoods of Bandar Sunway are already heavily developed. To provide an LRT service that connects Subang Jaya, Bandar Sunway, and Lagoon Perdana, many tight turns would be required to avoid the residential and industrial areas.

Nothing is impossible but excellent engineering and design and construction will cost a lot of money.

Many of these stations will be away from the main housing areas, so the construction of parking structures at the stations and provision of feeder bus services will be necessary. This will cost more money. All of these additional costs will have to be borne by the people. Initially, this might come through higher fares. In the future a government subsidy might be necessary, or reduced quality of service will be the result.

We can also consider that the ringgit spent on the LRT could be used in other parts of the transport system. There is still a desperate need for more buses, better bus shelters, accessible bus service, and many other improvements throughout the Klang Valley and most cities in Malaysia. Perhaps it would be better to concentrate on getting the basics (the bus system and the shelters) taken care of before spending money on the LRT project.

We should consider that the money could be better spent by building additional LRT lines that are needed in Kuala Lumpur. These lines will move far more people than the extensions to the suburban areas, and recover costs faster. Suburban extensions of an LRT line will lose money for a long time because passenger levels in the suburban areas are always lower than in the city.

That is why the city centre should have priority over the suburban areas when it comes to LRT construction. Suburban areas, which have wider and faster roads, can be better served with a fast and efficient system of express buses.


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How long are the two-car monorail trains? And how long are the monorail station platforms?

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I believe the platform could accommodate up to 4 car trains. The original plan by Hitachi was for 4 car trains to ply the monorail line, but KLIG who took over the project made do with 2 car trains due to financial constrains, which also put off a planby KLIG to provide 3 car trains some years ago.

I am not sure about the length but each monorail could carry up to 200 passengers max.
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I believe the platform could accommodate up to 4 car trains. The original plan by Hitachi was for 4 car trains to ply the monorail line, but KLIG who took over the project made do with 2 car trains due to financial constrains, which also put off a planby KLIG to provide 3 car trains some years ago.

I am not sure about the length but each monorail could carry up to 200 passengers max.
cool. thx. so are the 2-car trains 20 metres long and the station platforms are 40-metres long?
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cool. thx. so are the 2-car trains 20 metres long and the station platforms are 40-metres long?
According to a source I have, the trains are 21m long.

perhaps this includes the coupler at the front of each car?

Platforms are about 42m long, but the passenger boarding area is a bit shorter...

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Monorail

The 8.6-km long KL Monorail links the recently opened KL Sentral Station (where it connects with the KTM Komuter and Intercity services, the PUTRA LRT, and the ERL), with Titiwangsa (where it connects with the STAR LRT). It also connects with the STAR and PUTRA LRTs at two intermediate stations en route. There are 9 stations between KL Sentral and Titiwangsa spaced at about 800 m in the central business district. The monorail is seen by many to be KL's missing transport link because it will connect with and complement the other urban transportation systems. Construction has been completed and the system is now being tested and commissioned with revenue service anticipated in August 2003.
The KL Monorail is a straddle system and the guideway runs mainly above the median of main roads in KL's central business district. Initially, the services will use 12 sets of two-car trains but each set can be increased to four or six cars by inclusion of intermediate cars. The maximum speed is 80 km/h with an acceleration rate of 1.1 m/s². The round trip time is 39 minutes assuming station standing times of 20 s and a 30-s turnaround at the terminus. Therefore, the system can operate at a headway of 2.5 minutes. Each car has 24 seats and each two-car train can carry 107 people. To assure absolute safety, the driver-only trains are supervised by an ATP system at all times.
The stations are constructed mostly from lightweight materials making maximum use of precast concrete components and fabricated steel assembled off-site. With a platform length of 40 m, each station can accommodate trains of up to four cars in length. The 750-Vdc power for traction is drawn from the national power grid, transformed, rectified and supplied to power rails.
The signalling system uses bi-directional fixed blocks with both trackside and cab signals for extra safety. Like traditional LRT systems, the SCADA and associated systems are managed from an operation control room in an operations control centre.
The monorail route mainly serves major commercial areas such as Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman and Chow Kit as well as tourist areas like Bukit Bintang and main interchanges like KL Sentral. Since it has to pass through very developed and expensive areas, a monorail running over the median of public main roads was the most cost-effective construction choice. Another monorail is presently being designed for Putrajaya, the new government administration centre.
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