Football Fan Emotions

[Flogging Molly]

Ahhh, we get threatened with stand closures if stewards do not restrict the numbers standing.

[GlasgowMan]

Glasgow Celtic v Glasgow Rangers

[ronin(POA)]

Originally Posted by GlasgowMan

Glasgow Celtic
All the main clubs in Europe such as Barcelona, Manchester United, AC Milan and many others have all said there is no better atmosphere than Celtic Park, individually, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Sedorf and Messi have all said they have never experienced anything like Celtic Park.

ronaldinho is a f%@king liar!!

he said once that he would never leave Gremio when european teams were offering millions for him, but in secret he signed a contract with Paris Saint-Germain and left Gremio FOR FREE!!!

ronaldinho was formed in Gremio in case you didn't know...

ask Anderson from Manchester United, or Lucas Leiva from Liverpool, who were also formed in Gremio and i bet they would say that Olimpico (Gremio Stadium) atmosphere is better

[lpioe]

Originally Posted by www.sercan.de

In Turkey all 1st and 2nd league stadia has to be all-seater, but the fans still prefer to stand

I saw a game of the turkish League on TV a few weeks ago and it really surprised me that EVERYONE was standing, even on the side stands. I didn't see a single person sitting. I've never seen this in another country in allseater stadiums.
Is this common in Turkey?

[www.sercan.de]

Turkish league on non turlish TV? What happened?
Actually there are 2 main reasons
At small clubs: Seats are dirty

At the big ones (BJK, GS, Bursa etc.): Because of the small stadiums the fan groups (shouting, standing etc) are at the side stands and at the stand opposite of the main stand.

At FB there are many sitting fans, because they have enough seats
Fan groups are at the endzone stands.

Actually thats one of the reason why the new GS stadium will have foldaway seats. Otherwise many seats won't survive the first week

As i remember Süperlig stadiums have to be all seater since 2004.
But as you see its not a big problem for the fans

[ronin(POA)]

Originally Posted by Red85

With the same result

What a game that, Ajax didnt play his famous game but still won. The extra time, penalties. 10 years older in 130 minutes of football. My nerves...

there's a possibility of a remacht in the inauguration of Gremio new stadium... nothing official, but i guess most of the fans would like that

[Demetrius]

Stamford Bridge 05 March 2008:



Olympiacos CFP may have lost to Chelsea 3-0 but the reds' fans surely won the "tribune" match

[GlasgowMan]

Originally Posted by Demetrius

Stamford Bridge 05 March 2008:



Olympiacos CFP may have lost to Chelsea 3-0 but the reds' fans surely won the "tribune" match

I watched the Chelsea v Olympiacos game the other night and the Olympiacos fans are a credit to themselves and there club. 3-0 down and still making much more noise than the Chelsea fans, Olympiacos fans are true supporters, supporting your team win, lose or draw is what it’s all about, too many clubs have crap “supporters” that if they get getting beat they will simply walk out the stadium.

[dudu24]

English fans r a joke.. disgrace for what they once were

Arsenal - Dinamo CL QL last season.. it was on Emirates but by atmosphere is was almost like at Maksimir

[Demetrius]

wrong post

[Flogging Molly]

True, but you expect to lose 3-0 to Chelsea away from home.

Try losing 6-0 to Southampton when you are above them in the league and still have 24,000 odd supporters on thier feet dancing. Thats when you know you have great support.

[Demetrius]

Originally Posted by GlasgowMan

I watched the Chelsea v Olympiacos game the other night and the Olympiacos fans are a credit to themselves and there club. 3-0 down and still making much more noise than the Chelsea fans, Olympiacos fans are true supporters, supporting your team win, lose or draw is what it’s all about, too many clubs have crap “supporters” that if they get getting beat they will simply walk out the stadium.

Thanks mate. Fans' notion at Stamford Bridge was not only to cheer for that particular match, they were somehow thanking the players for this season succeses in CL group stage (2 away wins in Bremen and in Lazio and a last minute 3-2 loss to Real Madrid in Bernabeu after a terrific performance with only 10 players for 70 minutes).
Hopes were high also for the Chelsea game, but some things in football are unavoidable, especially with two serious line-up absenses due to injuries (namely Lua-Lua & Galleti).
See you next year (in C.L. hopefully!) !.

[Flogging Molly]

Originally Posted by dudu24

English fans r a joke.. disgrace for what they once were

Arsenal - Dinamo CL QL last season.. it was on Emirates but by atmosphere is was almost like at Maksimir

Actually, I think you'll find Playing Dinamo is the equivelent of playing a Championship team. Its very hard to be lively for a game you are expected to whitewash and a game only an hour and a bit after you finsih work.

As with all away fans, they have the day to travel soak in the atmosphere, havign a few bevvies and will always sing thier hearts out.

Also at champions league games you get alot of 1 off attendees who buy the tickets to see european opposition.

[dudu24]

Any game of any EPL side is pure crap comparing to what it was before, Arsenal fans in general were never known for some good atmosphere.. facts r facts, you can lie to yourself as much as u want So what, you are saying CL QL games are Championship level ?

[GlasgowMan]

Originally Posted by Demetrius

Thanks mate. Fans' notion at Stamford Bridge was not only to cheer for that particular match, they were somehow thanking the players for this season succeses in CL group stage (2 away wins in Bremen and in Lazio and a last minute 3-2 loss to Real Madrid in Bernabeu after a terrific performance with only 10 players for 70 minutes).
Hopes were high also for the Chelsea game, but some things in football are unavoidable, especially with two serious line-up absenses due to injuries (namely Lua-Lua & Galleti).
See you next year (in C.L. hopefully!) !.

It was the same for us (Glasgow Celtic) in Barcelona on Tuesday, we knew we had very little chance of progressing but still over 10,000 of our fans went to Barcelona and made allot of noise.

Just a shame its over for another year, would love to see Celtic v Olympiacos at some stage in the Champions League, but our group always seems to be AC Milan or Barcelona along with Benfica and Shakhtar Doneskt, every year .

[Flogging Molly]

Originally Posted by dudu24

Any game of any EPL side is pure crap comparing to what it was before, Arsenal fans in general were never known for some good atmosphere.. facts r facts, you can lie to yourself as much as u want So what, you are saying CL QL games are Championship level ?

I dont think anybody denying that atmosphere has gone down, but we we're explaining the reasons! Thats why when they can all get together and go abroad they are so noisy, boistrous and energetic watching England.

There are so many rules and regulations nowadays which are ruining football in this country from a fans perspective. However it seems the goverment will have no choice but to abandon the Taylor report and offer clubs the chance of 15% standing facilities in the near future.

Its very hard to put up flags in any stadium within England due to covering sponsors. They will be taken down.

And yes. Dinamo are the level of a top championship side. And yes, Arsenal have never been knwon for thier atmosphere's, but you wont get any better, fans then the English when they dont have restrictions on thier head at a game. International Tournaments prove this when they are still head and shoulders above the rest.

[dudu24]

Originally Posted by Flogging Molly

I dont think anybody denying that atmosphere has gone down, but we we're explaining the reasons! Thats why when they can all get together and go abroad they are so noisy, boistrous and energetic watching England.

Not true, your NT games are even more pathetic in recent years. Singing "god save the queen" 3x per game isn't really great support. Your WC2006 support was... mediocre at least.

Its very hard to put up flags in any stadium within England due to covering sponsors. They will be taken down.

What a lame excuse, its like that everywhere.

And yes. Dinamo are the level of a top championship side.

Ye, Championship teams usually have players we have/had and they are regulars in Euro competitions.

International Tournaments prove this when they are still head and shoulders above the rest.

Germans, Dutch, Polish, Croatian, Scotish... all those are far above English fans in term of actual support of NT (getting pissed at square infront of stadium doesn't really count as support)

[Flogging Molly]

Originally Posted by dudu24

Not true, your NT games are even more pathetic in recent years. Singing "god save the queen" 3x per game isn't really great support. Your WC2006 support was... mediocre at least.

Mediocre? 200,000 fans is'nt medicore! Lining the streets with England flags is'nt medicore!

What a lame excuse, its like that everywhere.

I think your main reason here is to have a dig at English football. Not uncommon when its top of the tree. There are more rules and regulations concerning safety at football matches then anywhere else in the world. Why many view the British stadia as an example of efficiency. And again, it was agreeing that the atmosphere in the top league has deterorated but it was explaining the reasons for this.

Ye, Championship teams usually have players we have/had and they are regulars in Euro competitions.

Championship teams have hugely talented players. My team for example has, Olofinjana - just got back from the African Nations from Nigeria, Keogh, Elliot, Breen, Ward, Foley - Republic of Ireland Internationals. Hennessey, Wales number 1 keeper, Freddy Eastwood, Wales top striker, Michael Kightly, England U21. In recent years while in this division we've had the likes of Jolean Lescott now at Everton, Lee Naylor now at Celtic, Paul Ince, Denis Irwin, Jackie McNamara, Henri Camara, Jeremy Alidiere, Kenny Miller, Seol Ky-Heon - all that have played with us in the 2nd tier.

Germans, Dutch, Polish, Croatian, Scotish... all those are far above English fans in term of actual support of NT (getting pissed at square infront of stadium doesn't really count as support)

Yes, of course! You sad pessimistic views of English supporters show you have an ignorance which go's deeper then football. I think its also a jealousy.

[dudu24]

Jealousy on what? Croatian National Team and its support is among top in Europe so i don't think i have something to be jealous about. I like your league a lot and i watch it on regular basis but i'm just being real about some things u English don't wanna accept/admit.

[Rohne]

Repressions, commercialisation and high ticket prices have killed english fan culture. It will need much more than just abandoning the Taylor report to get back to Europe's top.
In a smaller way you can also observe this phanomenon in Germany: Munich, Schalke, Dortmund - in the past their fan culture had to be taken seriously. Nowadays they're only a shadow of themselves. The only remaining German 1st league club where the home support is acceptable up to good is Frankfurt and - but with way smaller stadiums (where creating a good atmosphere is much easier) - Rostock and Karslruhe.
Concerning support Europe's top clubs have to be searched in Italy and Southeast Europe.