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Old January 22nd, 2013, 01:43 AM   #161
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Old January 31st, 2013, 03:31 AM   #162
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Crimea will be connected with major Ukrainian cities with 160km/h Skoda CityElephant train.



Coverage in Russian: http://gorod.dp.ua/news/79013

Just for info: Crimea, probably, has the most beautiful natural places in Europe with amazing beaches and mountains. Click here to see pics:
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Old February 7th, 2013, 03:59 AM   #163
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Ukrainian made high-speed train KVSZ in winter

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Old February 7th, 2013, 06:26 PM   #164
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Crimea, rail bus 620М-025


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Old February 7th, 2013, 06:45 PM   #165
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I don't like the restyle - it's ugly. The original desighn is way better:

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Old February 28th, 2013, 09:04 AM   #166
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Locomotive ТЕП 150 made in Lugansk, Ukraine.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 09:26 AM   #167
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According to this, http://www.1prime.ru/News/20121213/757621004-print.html

Ukraine going to place an order for 350+50 EU Locomotives from Novocherkassk Electric Locomotive Building Plant (Russia) which is part of bigger financial group with Ukrainian Lugansk Car Building Plant and some parts of these locomotives will be produced in Ukraine. Total order 2,2 billions USD.
I have no idea which model they are going to purchase, but here what they sell:
source: http://www.nevz.com/produce.php







Believe me guys, very soon Ukraine will be the most advanced rail country in this World.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 09:52 AM   #168
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Old March 4th, 2013, 04:19 AM   #169
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Old April 11th, 2013, 04:58 AM   #170
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What's up with Ukraine? We are staying 1520 for both freight and passenger. Even all the fancy talks "maybe we may build 1435 from Poland to Lviv sometime in future" are now deadlier than dead - we know, we wouldn't.
Lwów or Lviv or whatever the heck we're supposed to call it these days is the easternmost terminus of standard gauge in Europe, and hence a transshipment port. That's the point I was making.

Anyway, back to Danish railroading...
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Old April 11th, 2013, 01:52 PM   #171
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Lwów or Lviv or whatever the heck we're supposed to call it these days is the easternmost terminus of standard gauge in Europe, and hence a transshipment port. That's the point I was making.

Anyway, back to Danish railroading...
Hell no, Lviv is 1520-only city, the eastmost point of standart gauge in UA is Kovel', and Mostys'ka is the closest one to Lviv...
But back to the Denmark, yeah.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 05:22 PM   #172
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Lwów or Lviv or whatever the heck we're supposed to call it these days is the easternmost terminus of standard gauge in Europe, and hence a transshipment port. That's the point I was making.

Anyway, back to Danish railroading...
Sorry to argue, but Romania and Bulgaria also run on 1435 mm gauges, and the lines go about 400 km further east, up to the Black Sea cast. Also, the 1435 mm lines go further east to Istanbul, and further into Asia.
So Lviv is not the most eastern point with standard European Gauge.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 06:49 PM   #173
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Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. See above.

The point isn't where the railheads are, the point I was making is that the Ukraine has several standard-gauge railheads in a mostly broad-gauge system. Since the Baltic states' broad-gauge systems today are essentially secondaries, the Rail Baltica mainline offers them an opportunity to reorient the extant network to the new mainline, while retaining broad-gauge railheads to the principal ports (Talinn, Riga, Kaliningrad). To, essentially, function like the obverse of western Ukraine. That observation came about due to Coccodrillo's observation about gauge issues particularly w/r/t Russian gauge previous in the discussion, which are at their most pronounced in the Baltic states.

If you want to get real technical about it, I'm sure you can point out where the gauge change railheads are in the Caucasus, but that's missing the forest for the trees.

Now can we please get back to Denmark?
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Old April 12th, 2013, 03:06 PM   #174
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Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. See above.

The point isn't where the railheads are, the point I was making is that the Ukraine has several standard-gauge railheads in a mostly broad-gauge system. Since the Baltic states' broad-gauge systems today are essentially secondaries, the Rail Baltica mainline offers them an opportunity to reorient the extant network to the new mainline, while retaining broad-gauge railheads to the principal ports (Talinn, Riga, Kaliningrad). To, essentially, function like the obverse of western Ukraine. That observation came about due to Coccodrillo's observation about gauge issues particularly w/r/t Russian gauge previous in the discussion, which are at their most pronounced in the Baltic states.

If you want to get real technical about it, I'm sure you can point out where the gauge change railheads are in the Caucasus, but that's missing the forest for the trees.

Now can we please get back to Denmark?
I stand corrected.
However, i still would like to argue.
The line that enters in the Ukraine form Romania in Vadu Siret (north of Suceava) is also standard 1435 mm gauge.
It was built by the Austrian Empire before 1918 and went up to Cernauti (Chernivtsi in Ukrainian).
I do not know whether the line has been transformed after 1944 in Russian 1520 mm gauge, but as I said, the line leaves Romania on 1435 mm.
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No it 'breaks' at the border, at Vadu Siret.

The only moderately long stretch of 1435 in UA is Yagodyn - Kovel', all other are just short streches near boders.

Also, I would ask Coccodrillo to move all this posts to (or any other topics he would find suitable, I just don't want to turn Denmark thread into a mess) http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1230399
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Old May 6th, 2013, 12:47 PM   #176
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As for me, Ukrainian goverment should learn in Russia, how to make higth speed railways...
http://uzjournal.net/poezd-lastochka/

This train call Lastochka, the best option for us.
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Old May 6th, 2013, 08:38 PM   #177
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This train call Lastochka, the best option for us.
KVSZ trains seems to be better than Korean "Hyundai" and even Lastochka ...also, as said famous philosopher Hryhorii Skovoroda: "For every city its customs and laws; For every head its mind; For every heart its own love, For every palate its own sense of taste..."
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Old May 6th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #178
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KVSZ high-speed train was designed by KVSZ Design Bureau in Kremenchuk, Ukraine. It's our choice.






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Old May 7th, 2013, 01:09 PM   #179
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As for me, Ukrainian goverment should learn in Russia, how to make higth speed railways...
http://uzjournal.net/poezd-lastochka/

This train call Lastochka, the best option for us.
Well, Lastochka isn't HS by world wide standarts, it's only 160 km/h Vmax.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 07:45 PM   #180
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hi

not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but here goes!

we're in Ukraine next week, we're looking to travel from Kyiv to Kremenchuk on train 180 - can anyone tell me what type of train this is? i.e. is it loco hauled or a DMU? and what type of loco

similarly, are the local trains between Bakhmach and Vorozhba still 2TE116, or are these EMU now

finally, is the midnight train from Kyiv to Sumy loco hauled or a DMU? I notice it does not carry kupe or platskartny, only 'daytime' seats

thanks
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