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Old December 5th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #161
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So there is water leaking into an underground passage. Suddenly that means the whole system is unsafe? I do recall New York subway stations that leaked and it rained inside when it rained outside. Perhaps they will experience a cave in soon?
I don't think the New York subway system leaking is a good thing, but you are comparing a 100 year old tunnel with a brand new one...
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Old December 5th, 2012, 02:58 AM   #162
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Keep in mind the very complicated situation in terms of geology and hydrogeology. For many years they hadn't decided to construct a metro in Hanzghou due to that.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 04:10 AM   #163
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I don't think the New York subway system leaking is a good thing, but you are comparing a 100 year old tunnel with a brand new one...
Well, age is not an excuse for not maintaining the infrastructure properly. If leaks on opening are a problem, then I think not taking care of things over time is also a problem.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 01:02 PM   #164
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All rail tunnels leak in some way or another, and there's water collection mechanisms. Of course they don't normally leak quite this badly!
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Old December 5th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #165
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That's exactly what happened, apparently they didn't design adequate water collection and drainage systems, and now emergency work is being done to get that system in place.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #166
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Well, age is not an excuse for not maintaining the infrastructure properly. If leaks on opening are a problem, then I think not taking care of things over time is also a problem.
I agree, which is why I said "I don't think the New York subway system leaking is a good thing".
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Old December 9th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #167
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A video

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Old December 9th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #168
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A video

Just a video of the Line 1 here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh_CgFFvNQQ


For what i know the subway is working good,
anyway are there any information about the problems of water leaks?

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Old December 10th, 2012, 03:48 PM   #169
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Old January 17th, 2013, 12:31 PM   #170
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Finally I managed to sort out my own pictures, so I'm starting my series of reports in Hanzghou metro.

My home is in the city center yet there's no a metro station nearby so far, so the nearest is the famous Wulin Square station.

Entrance on the side of Tianmushan avenue, which is still packed with jams:


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599259/

The entrace reminds me much of the new ones in Moscow. I like both very much.

The photo is not very good because of the rain.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599260/

Look at the plants that stand in pots. Typical of Japan. Hard to imagine that in Russia or in Europe.

The information is mainly in Chinese with some relevant one in English.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599261/

All entrances are equipped with escalators that take you outdoors even when it snows.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599262/

That day, December 25th, there were not so many passengers.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599263/

The famous point over the Internet, which is blamed for bad waterproof. I'd say there's no much water, a typical situation on most metro stations in Europe and in some cases in Moscow, too.

100 % of Hangzhou metro stations feature WCs, all are accessible for the diabled.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599265/

Nive way to show the rules:


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599266/

Like other metro systems in China, Hanzghou metro has a double-deck structure. You get down from outside to the upper deck with turnstiles, ATMs, ticket vending machines, etc. and the platform itself is even lower. So, most of the underground stations are rather deep.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599267/

Golden wallpapers were mounted on the occasion of Western holidays. Each station boasts a Christmass tree & gifts installation. It reminds me of the Scene of Christ's Birth in Italy.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599268/

The wallpaper on the left is not flat. Each station features its own one.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599269/


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599270/

To be continued. Please, feel free to ask questions.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 01:15 PM   #171
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I like the elevated entrance "doorstep".
This way, flooding through the entrances is almost impossible.
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Old January 18th, 2013, 06:59 PM   #172
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Finally I managed to sort out my own pictures, so I'm starting my series of reports in Hanzghou metro.
Thanks for sharing, nice photos! Please continue.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 08:05 AM   #173
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I'm carrying on.

At Wulin Square station there were 2 Christmas installations:


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599271/

This wall, unfortunately, I don't remember if it was at Wulin Square station or of another one...


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599272/

Got to the line to buy tickets. This is the timing of the first and the last trains. Not very convenient for the evenings, though. And it is the case for almost all Chinese metro systems. If I worked in China the way I work here, every day I would get a taxi or drive by car to get home.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599273/

One of the tickets. We've seen 3 different variants of pictures on it.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599274/

Turnstile already supporting mobile wallet function.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599275/

There were a lot of staff at the stations: guards, volunteeres, they all were ready to help you in any petty problem.

Wulin Square station is actually 2 platforms that and 4 tracks. You can transfer by the upper deck.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599276/

Getting onto the platform:


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599277/

The way the name of the station is carried out reminds me that in Shanghai at the the stations that were built since 2007 when they broke many world records.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599278/

The platform is nothing special. Right the same that you can find in Shanghai, Nanjing and a dozen of other big cities in China (but unlike Beijing, I think), unless some details...
But these details really matter, I think.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599279/


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599280/


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599281/

Benches at the station feature traditional Chinese painting just like on china or porcelain. Many stations boast thematic painting. And each station has one of its own^ as I can understand. I found it marvelous.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599282/

In China, I've seen that only in Hangzhou.

There is much ad dedicated to Hangzhou metro itself and the new Qiantang IBD.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599283/

Headways are way too big: the first train is expected in 4 minutes, the second, in 14. During rush hours, headways are reduced to 5 minutes but it is still too much.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599284/

Another wonderful detail are beautiful arrows indicating where to stand and how to let people get off the train. The rule is not always respected yet it is not that Shanghai chaos where you sometimes have to push & bump to get off.


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599285/


http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/night-c...m/view/599286/

To be continued.
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I think one thing they can improve is placing more benches on the platform, Shanghai Metro is very good at doing that.
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Getting back to the discussion on the rolling stock. The trains are definitely 3 m wide, but are they 23.54 m long? They boast only 4 doors at each side instead of 5 in Shanghai.

Is it a real A-size stock?
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Getting back to the discussion on the rolling stock. The trains are definitely 3 m wide, but are they 23.54 m long? They boast only 4 doors at each side instead of 5 in Shanghai.

Is it a real A-size stock?
I stated that the trains are B-size stock in 6 car sets. Each car is ~19m long and 2.8 meters wide. Like all other B-size sets it has 4 doors per side.
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But them seem very wide, much wider than Alstoms on line 8 in shanghai, really. Much wider than Moscow trains that are 2,7 m wide.

Anyway, thanks for the info and the source.
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But them seem very wide, much wider than Alstoms on line 8 in shanghai, really. Much wider than Moscow trains that are 2,7 m wide.

Anyway, thanks for the info and the source.
The Alstoms on line 8 (line 6 and 5 too!) in shanghai are C size trains 2.6 meters wide... The stupidest loading gauge ever
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Is it possible to use the SPTC card in HZ metro?

I found some info from this article which suggests you can, but has anyone tried it?
http://www.sino-us.com/145/One-card-...se-Cities.html
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The Alstoms on line 8 (line 6 and 5 too!) in shanghai are C size trains 2.6 meters wide... The stupidest loading gauge ever
I have to express my support every time people mention how stupid line 8 is

I want to punch the person who decided to use C trains on line 8 in the face, in front of his families.
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