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Old December 15th, 2014, 08:50 PM   #41
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Central Place is now under construction in the Rosslyn neighbourhood of Arlington, directly across the Potomac River from Downtown Washington, DC. The Central Place complex will be the tallest in the DC metro area upon completion, although it faces competition from developments farther to the west in Tysons Corner.
  • North Tower (residential): 390 feet, 31 floors, 377 units
  • South Tower (office, known as CEB Tower): 390 feet, 31 floors, 525,000 s.f. of office space
Website: Central Place

Render of the northern (residential) tower, across the street from the recently completed and vacant 1812 N Moore.



Render of the southern (office) tower, anchored by CEB.



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Old December 16th, 2014, 05:28 AM   #42
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The height limit drives me crazy. The DC metro has so much potential and pent up demand.
Thanks to the height limit gentrification is spreading throughout the city rapidly, faster than in cities like NYC or Chicago.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 07:22 AM   #43
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Vornado, Gould present new vision for Rosslyn Plaza overhaul



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The team behind the planned overhaul of Rosslyn Plaza has returned to Arlington County with significant changes to improve connections, create better retail opportunities, increase open space and activate the site.

Vornado Realty Trust and Gould Property Co., the venture behind the redevelopment of Rosslyn Plaza, will return to the county's Site Plan Review Committee on Thursday after a 17-month absence. The panel's last review of the project, which covers a 6.5-acre area bounded by Arlington Ridge Road, 19th Street North, North Kent Street and Wilson Boulevard, took place in July 2013.

The site currently includes four office buildings, the Spectrum Theater and the London and Normandy apartments. It is a mass of classic 1960s and 1970s mid-rise office towers seen best from Interstate 66, a highway that effectively separates Rosslyn from the Potomac River.

Vornado and Gould are proposing roughly 2.5 million square feet of new construction — a total redevelopment of the site — in five phases to include two offices buildings, two residential buildings and a fifth building that could go either way, plus more than 4 acres of open space, an esplanade deck over Arlington Ridge Road, and upward of 300,000 square feet of retail.

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Old December 16th, 2014, 06:14 PM   #44
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How much more office space does Rosslyn possibly need? 1812 N Moore is still vacant and CEB's move-out to Central Place would push vacancy up to 30% or so. Boeing's also probably going to leave from what I understand and no one wants to be in those crappy '70s and '80s buildings.
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Crane now up at 600 Mass. It's pretty off-center, so I wonder if another one is going to go up at some point.



Also, the foundation is pretty deep:

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Observation Deck Could be ‘Game Changer’ for Rosslyn



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When CEB Tower opens — it’s expected to be finished after its adjacent residential tower in 2017 — its observation deck is expected to help usher in a new era for Rosslyn.

The tower, currently under construction at the corner of Wilson Blvd and N. Moore and Lynn Streets, will provide the public with a place to look down on D.C., the National Mall and Arlington National Cemetery from 390 feet up. The building will be one of the tallest in the region, and local officials think it will be the key for making Rosslyn a major tourist hub.

“We really believe that’s going to be a game changer,” said Rosslyn Business Improvement District President Mary-Claire Burick. “Moreso than other projects because it will really position Rosslyn as a tourist destination. This is something that we really think will be quite a draw into Rosslyn.”

The observation deck will pair with the U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial, five blocks down the road, for major tourist destinations that will create a “critical mass,” Burick said.

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Old January 1st, 2015, 11:42 PM   #47
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Ground works for phase 1 of The Wharf in SW DC.



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Geoking, are there any more new neighborhoods being built at this scale?
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Geoking, are there any more new neighborhoods being built at this scale?
The only comparable development that I can think of is The Yards near Nats Park. There have been other large visions (such as the redevelopment of the SW Federal Center and Tysons Corner Center) but none are a joint project so much as incremental.
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Was up in Bethesda earlier today. It's one of the region's more mixed-use and transit-oriented suburbs, similar to Arlington but until recently without the same level of development.

The Darcy is nearing completion:


Untitled by pjryan92, on Flickr

Crane for The Lauren is now up. This is one of the most expensive new condos going up in the DC area: a typical condo is asking $2.5m.


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The only comparable development that I can think of is The Yards near Nats Park. There have been other large visions (such as the redevelopment of the SW Federal Center and Tysons Corner Center) but none are a joint project so much as incremental.
I thought of places like National Harbor or Potomac Yards. But those aren't new neighborhoods more than they are just areas of potential future development. As for growth, there's no doubt the next decade belongs to Atlas, Petworth and Shaw in terms of development. We just need that new blue line to spur things along in 20 years. Holding out hope for something like this:

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I thought of places like National Harbor or Potomac Yards. But those aren't new neighborhoods more than they are just areas of potential future development. As for growth, there's no doubt the next decade belongs to Atlas, Petworth and Shaw in terms of development. We just need that new blue line to spur things along in 20 years. Holding out hope for something like this:

I'm increasingly doubtful that a separate Blue Line will ever happen. WMATA is held in such disdain and can't even run a basic service, while battles between multiple governments and public-sector ineptitude will complicate any attempt to get this done. And the price tag will easily exceed $10bn. I wouldn't be surprised if it costs more than Crossrail in London for half the benefit.
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Yeah, WMATA is truly horrendous. I can't believe how expensive it is to do anything in Washington. You'd think a city with a GDP per capita of $170,000 could get some decent transit. It's quite sad. And now Larry Hogan looks set to ruin the Purple Line in Maryland. There goes another decade of menial progress. We have fewer metro stations than Oslo, a city with 800,000 people. DC is over 6,000,000.
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D.C. proper is 600,000. But I totally agree with you US cities and metros need denser development and more robust transit options.
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The height limit drives me crazy. The DC metro has so much potential and pent up demand.
Even though Washington has height limit, it hardly looks like anything near e.g. Tokyo in density. Downtown Tokyo looks super urban and that is not because of supertalls. So the city of Washington has much potential even with the height limit to "dense up". And the only building that I could tell from Washington is the white house home of the bresident of USA.
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Even though Washington has height limit, it hardly looks like anything near e.g. Tokyo in density. Downtown Tokyo looks super urban and that is not because of supertalls. So the city of Washington has much potential even with the height limit to "dense up". And the only building that I could tell from Washington is the white house home of the bresident of USA.

True, but it's not like DC isn't dense either. The District is the third-most densely populated large city in the US after New York and San Francisco at around 11,000 people per square mile, a figure that takes into account for the fact that 20% of the city is parkland. The central areas, especially where new development is taking place, approach 50,000/sq mi.

DC has a very similar urban form to Paris in many ways: its high-rise business districts (Arlington, Tysons, Bethesda and to a lesser extent Silver Spring) are suburban, but all on Metro. DC is also only home to around 15% of the metro's six million residents, and most jobs are in the suburbs, although Downtown DC is the second-largest CBD in the country (yes, in square foot terms, it's bigger than Chicago slightly).

The problem that faces the region now is that its infrastructure is largely at saturation and home prices continue to fly through the roof, in part because of a lack of decent connectivity. Metro needs to be untangled and have some built-in redundancy since it faces large delays and breakdowns on a regular basis, there aren't any bus lanes and buses are seriously delayed due to massive amounts of traffic, suburban traffic is largely funnelled onto a select few arterial roads because there are no alternatives, and the Beltway can't handle any more cars and there's no easy way to go between Virginia and Maryland.
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D.C. proper is 600,000.
650,000 according to the latest Census numbers. People are moving back into the city.
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650,000 according to the latest Census numbers. People are moving back into the city.
The metro area is around 6 million; it's big. I'm trying to mix city and suburban project updates as a result.
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D.C. proper is 600,000. But I totally agree with you US cities and metros need denser development and more robust transit options.
Yeah, but the Washington Metro's catchment area isn't just DC proper.

Right now the catchment area is:
Alexandria City, VA
Arlington County, VA
District of Columbia, DC
Fairfax City, VA
Fairfax County, VA
Falls Church City, VA
Loudoun County, VA (2018-Silver Line)
Montgomery County, MD
Prince George's County, MD

Those are the jurisdictions served by the Washington Metro.

Here's how they've grown since 1900:
1900: 400,926
1910: 466,891
1920: 592,975
1930: 694,709
1940: 991,831 (Roosevelt's big expansion of the government boosted growth in the 1930s)
1950: 1,487,182 (the beginning of the Military-Industrial Complex)
1960: 2,040,031 (the 1950s saw a major economic expansion)
1970: 2,750,010 (the 1960s continued the economic growth)
1980: 2,822,563 (the troubled 70s saw crime rates rise and people leaving DC in greater numbers)
1990: 3,309,227
2000: 3,735,874
2010: 4,213,447
2013*: 4,391,825

So the Washington Metro services an area encompassing 4,391,825 people and has less stations than Oslo. The projected population in 2020 is between 4,800,000 and 4,900,000. By 2030 this will be between around 5,400,000-5,500,000. By then WMATA could also be servicing Prince William County.

In fact this is what WMATA could feasibly service via subway:
Alexandria City, VA
Arlington County, VA
District of Columbia, DC
Fairfax City, VA
Fairfax County, VA
Falls Church City, VA
Loudoun County, VA (2018)
Manassas City, VA
Manassas Park City, VA
Montgomery County, MD
Prince George's County, MD
Prince William County, VA

Basically, just what WMATA services now plus Manassas, Manassas Park and Prince William. They could, conceivably service places like Charles County or Anne Arundel, but not for the foreseeable future.

So the potential catchment area for WMATA is:
1900: 412,038
1910: 479,007
1920: 606,635
1930: 708,660
1940: 1,009,569
1950: 1,509,794
1960: 2,090,195
1970: 2,861,112
1980: 2,989,251
1990: 3,559,604
2000: 4,062,112
2010: 4,667,543
2013*: 4,878,517
2020 Proj: 5,400,000
2030 Proj: 6,000,000
2040 Proj: 6,500,000
2050 Proj: 6,900,000

And that doesn't include Charles, Frederick, Calvert and Fauquier which are the outer ring of the DC metro and have 600,000 more people. Then there's Stafford, Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania who add 300,000 people in the new VRE serviced commuter line down into Central Virginia. Then there's Howard and Anne Arundel who have 800,000 and strong ties to DC. If they are integrated into WMATA by 2050, the catchment area could be 8,500,000, with Baltimore and Baltimore County adding another 1,500,000 just outside the catchment area.

Moral of the story: WMATA services 4,400,000 people now but could be servicing close to 8,500,000 people by 2050. So they need to get their shit together.
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Groundbreaking is expected to begin this week for the 365-unit residential project in Waterfront. This project is the third phase in the Waterfront Station project that is completely revitalizing the neighborhood with more than 80,000-square-feet in retail, more than 500,000-square-feet in office space, and hundreds of residential units along 4th Street. This third phase is located on 1001 4th Street and will not only include apartments, but 5,000-square-feet of retail as well. There is still one more phase left in the Waterfront Station project after this one is complete. The fourth phase will be located on 375 and 425 M Street and will include 625,000-square-feet of office space and ground-floor retail. For this fourth stage, the developers have requested a two-year extension for PUD approval. The hearing date is set for March.
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