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Kraft's credit rating has gone from A- to BBB. Cadbury drop out of the FTSE100, ARM have taken their place.
Well, glad a British owned company, ARM, has now taken their place. |
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Good old Kraft, after promising to keep Cadbury's Bristol factory open, they are now going to close it after all. Hasn't taken then long to go back on their words... where next...
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It's Sting. So What?
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In all fairness, Cadbury's were in the process of shutting the factory and the process was already far too advanced for Kraft to be able to reverse it without spending ridiculous amounts of money. In taking over Cadbury, Kraft inherited this bad news and they've ended up with egg on their faces as a result.
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Yes, but why go to the trouble of deliberately promising on somthing you don't even know you can deliver?
The hallmark of either a very poorly managed or a very dishonest company, neither of which fills me with great hope for the future of Cadburys or Bournville. |
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As far as i know kraft have always said about the bristol factory closing and that there may be a very slim chance the closure could be delayed and even stopped completely so its no suprise to me as erebus said it was too advanced good news to see that they have said they are commited to investing in bournville though.
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And for all the amount of resources that it would have took to keep the Bristol factory open, it would have meant that cuts would be necessary elsewhere in the Cadbury network.
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No, Kraft did in fact categorically state they were keeping Somerdale open - somewhat worryingly in exactly the same sentence as investing in the future of Bournville! They would have been well aware of the position on this plant and known of the new facility being built in Poland whilst conducting due dilligence - just pure dishonesty to have promised this at the time.
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The devil is in the details, however. "we believe...." doesn't mean they will keep it open. They're just stating that they believed that they would be able to do it... but then the game changed when they had to substantially up their bid.
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There was never any need to make such reassurances in the first place if they were mounting a hostile bid, simply a very dishonest PR exercise.
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Sign of things to come sadly...
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A glass and a half...
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Kraft have just been naive in this instance.
They bought Cadbury citing it as a well run business. Well clearly that well run business had done its homework on Somerdale and had reached a logical conclusion. Kraft are no more dishonest than BMW were when they shafted Rover. In general, I'd urge you to keep buying Cadbury products. Their continued sales will help; a drop in sales will take Cadbury and possibly Kraft down and that helps nobody. Don't forget, the company Kraft bought was not George Cadbury's cosy family business from the 1890's. It was a multi-national corporation, employing 45000 people in 44 countries across the globe - most of them acquired in the same way Kraft have acquired Cadbury. Cadbury's was sold in the '60's when it floated (or whenever it was). Don't get me wrong, I don't support Kraft. I think a well run and successful business should be able to resist hostile take-overs better, but in this case a boycott and downer on the products helps nobody. (As opposed to my personal refusal to buy a BMW.) |
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Last episode of an interesting documentary series on R4 'Cadbury is Our Longbridge' about the Somersdale plant http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rmthx
Irene Rosenfeld, Kraft's chairman and chief executive, has been awarded a $26m (£17.2m) pay and bonus pot in part for the company's "exceptional" £11.9bn acquisition of Cadbury. Greed at it's most obscene
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Kraft ordered to keep their promises to Cadbury workers
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It's Sting. So What?
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Two years really isn't much... That'll be just about enough time for them to survey the whole of Cadbury's and decide what's good to close down and chop up.
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IIRC Heinz were obliged to make no redundancies for a year after they bought HP from Danone. We all know the rest.
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