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#Proposed: 435 St. Pauls Terrace - 2x31st/100m/res
Twin Towers proposed by WATPAC at the corner of Julia, Alfred and St. Pauls Terrace opposite the back entrance to the Valley Railway Station. I'm at work at the moment so it is a little hard to get plans etc. however the App. # - A002480576
This one is a surprise for me! edit: Actually, I just realised it is 31st, however I can't be 100% sure about the height as the ground level elevation isn't clear.
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Here they be. They look pretty undistinguished in that poor quality render, but huge development for that area. Contains a total of 414 apartments.
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for the sake of saying something 're-donkulous' they could just go larger floor plates and go for 180 -200m single tower.
![]() ![]() no but seriously i dont mind them spreading out a bit more, cos of the elevated area of of that area they don't need to go super high. however that stage two tower I'm not sure how the 14 floors of concrete wall of another building so close on the western side of the building would get find the buyers fancy, i mean i see that they have angled the building so as to avoid that issue but ... Last edited by kp_22; January 18th, 2010 at 02:50 AM. |
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not beautiful buildings by any standards, but this great nonetheless. Finally a bit of height for the valley. And they replace that ugly low set building on Juliet street. so win-win situation.
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The near by North Tower of Green Square is only 14 storeys and 59m high, so this will really stand out. Good to see some new limits being set.
Valley Metro tower is proposed at 14 storeys and 70m high. HQ North Building is 12 storeys and 53m high. |
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Quality part of town, this is actually currently the Centrelink Office if I have my bearings correct. It's a big Centrelink office as well. It does seem out of place to be totally honest, its not really in the Valley per say (although less then 5 mins walk to Fortitude Train Station), nor is it really in Bowen Hills and is just out of the Bowen Hills UDA. However even the closest Bowen Hills UDA sub precinct which is marked for High Intensity Residential Living allows only 12 stories and a plot ratio of 3, at 30 stories and presumably a much higher plot ratio, this is considerably more.
Is there perhaps a big affordable housing competent? I do hope it gets up, as it looks like it could be a development which really helps to start changing an area, but I certainly don't think we should get our hopes up, at 30 stories they could be asking way too much of council. BTW it would appear that about 30st/100m seems to have become some sort of high barrier outside of the CBD, when have seen a couple of proposals at this height now (Milton Train Station and Buranda). |
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Whether or not they're particularly attractive buildings, I quite like the site layout. Seems to be a nice lot of open space included.
I don't think council will view the height as a particular problem. |
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I dont see the height being a big deal in that area. And im sure Watpac would have gotten some solid advice before going to council with the heights.
Im hoping it gets up to add a little more depth to that part of town. |
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Even though it's nothing special, there is something about this development that I really like. Not to mention it would be a huge boost for the area. In some of the DA docs, it does say "in accordance with the allowable 30 storey height limit in the area...". So Watpac know the deal and this shouldn't have much trouble going through you would think.
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once again bland cookie cutter design...
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wasn't there once a proposal for 60 story apartment towers on Petrie Terrace a few years ago?? All i remember of them was that they were white and hell ugly!
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Love the design of these, hopefully they don't go too cheap with the finishes!
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These would be awesome for that area. Breath some life into St Paul's Tce.
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I think they look great! Robot twins.
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Um Wow! This is great for that area.
Big thumbs up from me.
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Very good, we need more.
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395 St Paul's
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thats interesting
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