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Old January 27th, 2010, 10:39 AM   #1
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Historic Photos - building the convention centre

About 30 years ago Birmingham council began to clear the area around Broad Street to build the Convention Centre, the
National Indoor Arena, and Brindley place.

I went up there with my trusty camera (pre digital of course) to try and capture the area before, and during, the
development of the site.

I happened to mention it on this web site yesterday, and someone said they would love to see the pictures.

So I have dug out the album (do you remember the days we stuck pictures in albums) and I will try to scan them all in.

Looking at them now they are not very good, and I always seemed to go up there on a dull Sunday, so the pictures are
rather dark.

I also went back in 2010 to capture the finished product so there are pictures before and during and after development.

However for those that only know the "new" buildings in that area, you may be interested in seeing how it WAS 30 years
ago, and how far Birmingham has come in the last 30 years.

(Updated to change it to "30 years ago" from "25 years ago")
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Old January 27th, 2010, 10:39 AM   #2
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Well here is a picture that may shock you all. It shocked me seeing it again after many years.

Believe it or not this shows the site of the ICC (Convention Centre), Brindley place and the Sea Life Centre.

I am standing with my BACK to the National Indoor Arena (which was not there of course), looking down towards Gas
Street basin. In the foreground is the roundabout in the middle of the canal (which is still there) and this area is, I
believe, called Old Turn Junction.

On the VERY left is the site of the canal side pub The Malt House, then further down on the left we see the mass of old
buildings where the Convention Centre now stands. About the point where the canal disappears is the footbridge that
links the Convention Centre with Brindley Place.

On the right of the canal is the site of the Brindley Place complex, and the building on the very right (with the broken
windows) is where the Sea Life Centre now stands.

Where the canal disappears in the distance is the road bridge over Broad Street, and right at the back are the pub
buildings on Broad Street (I believe one is called the Australian Bar)

Because I took a number of pictures from the same spot I will try to group the pictures together. I will call this "View 1"
and there are 5 pictures from this view (the next 5 pictures)

View 1, Picture 1) Site of Convention Centre and Sea Life Centre

View1Picture1 by Guilbert60, on Flickr

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Old January 27th, 2010, 11:09 AM   #3
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Here is the same view as Picture 1 above, but after they began development of the site (and the sun is shining).

There is a date on the back of the photograph of November 1986.

If you compare the two pictures you see that some of the buildings on the left have been demolished, and the building
on the right (where the Sea Life Centre is now) has been partly demolished.

View 1, Picture 2) Site of Convention Centre and Sea Life Centre

View1Picture2 by Guilbert60, on Flickr
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Old January 27th, 2010, 11:20 AM   #4
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Here is the same view as the two pictures above, but a rather dull and grainy picture (must have been using cheap film).

No date on the back of this one, but is it is AFTER November 1986 (the date of picture 2 above).

You can see the cranes are now in place for the building of the convention centre, and a large new building is being built
on the left. The area on the right (where the Sea Life Centre is now) has now been almost totally cleared.

View 1, Picture 3) Site of Convention Centre and Sea Life Centre

View1Picture3 by Guilbert60, on Flickr

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Old January 27th, 2010, 11:34 AM   #5
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Here is the same view as the three pictures above, but a bit sunnier this day.

No date on the back of this one.

Nice modern building in the foreground, and you can see the cranes are still in place for the building of
the convention centre (I think you can see the roof of the convention centre slightly sticking above the
new building in the foreground).

Not much movement on the site of the Sea Life Centre on the right.

View 1, Picture 4) Site of Convention Centre and Sea Life Centre

View1Picture4 by Guilbert60, on Flickr

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Old January 27th, 2010, 11:46 AM   #6
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Here is the same view as the four pictures above.

Date of October 1989 on the back of this one (so just over 25 years old).

This is the last picture I took of this "view" (so 5 pictures in all) - unless I have one stuck in amonst my pictures that I
have forgotten about (we have a cupboard full of negatives and pictures)

Most of the cranes have gone for the building of the convention centre, just one left, and you can now clearly see the
roof of the convention centre sticking above the new building in the foreground.

The Hyatt hotel has also appeared in the distance.

Not much movement on the site of the Sea Life Centre on the right.

View 1, Picture 5) Site of Convention Centre and Sea Life Centre

View1picture5 by Guilbert60, on Flickr

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Old January 27th, 2010, 11:55 AM   #7
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Yikes that's a good short history of the site. Now I understand why the energy centre is such a piss poor building - because it was the first building built and nobody had any thoughts about the canals being such a valuable resource, well that's my guess
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Old January 27th, 2010, 12:08 PM   #8
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any pictures of the wholesale markets?
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Old January 27th, 2010, 12:10 PM   #9
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This is now "View 2" and there are only 3 pictures from this viewpoint.

This picture is dated November 1986

This shows a run down building on Broad Street which was restored and is now The Brasshouse (according to Google
Street View). It is to the LEFT of the canal (as you face it) and the building is facing Broad Street. Behind it is the
Brindley Place complex.

The "gap" between the old buildings is where the canal runs under Broad Street (was there a church there?).

The thing that STAGGERED me about this picture is not the building in the foreground, but the amazing industrial
architecture of the building on the right (I happen to think it is beautiful with those wonderful chimneys).

I must admit that I was not so into buildings at that time, and I dont think I even NOTICED it when I took this
picture, it just "happened" to be in it. I certainly did not take an pictures of JUST that building at the time (I
wish I had done).

It stands right where the Convention Centre now stands (I wonder if there was any protest about it being knocked
down at the time).

Amazing to think a building like that was right in the centre of Birmingham less than 30 years ago.

View 2, Picture 1) Site of Brindley Place and Convention Centre on Broad Street

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Old January 27th, 2010, 12:32 PM   #10
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This is still "View 2" and there are only 3 pictures from this viewpoint.

No date on this pictures (and it is VERY grainy)

Not much movement on The Brasshouse in the foreground (except the adverts posted on the walls and windows have
changed), but the industrial building on the right has now gone (sad to say), and a couple of cranes have appeared.

A bit of tidying up in the "gap" between the old buildings is where the canal runs under Broad Street.

View 2, Picture 2) Site of Brindley Place and Convention Centre on Broad Street

View2Picture2 by Guilbert60, on Flickr

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This is the last picture I am posting for a couple of days, may try to do more next week.

This is still "View 2" and there are only 3 pictures from this viewpoint.

No date on this picture.

We now have movement on The Brasshouse in the foreground, and the old building on the far right
is being restored (which I think is now Reflex - the 80s bar - according to Google Street view).

In the gap between the old buildings you can see the Convention Centre taking shape.

View 2, Picture 3) Site of Brindley Place and Convention Centre on Broad Street

View2Pic3 by Guilbert60, on Flickr

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any pictures of the wholesale markets?
I dont think so, whereabouts were they?

I only took these types of pictures around Convention Centre, NIA, Gas Street etc, nowhere else in Birmingham.
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ahhh ok, they are by bullring i just wondered if you had documented that area aswel...was in hope lol
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any pictures of the wholesale markets?
You could try the Birmingham History Forum.

There is a HUGE amount of information on that site, including a section just for Birmingham markets

http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk...play.php?f=277
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Amazing pics Guilbert - thanks so much for scanning them in
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Thanks for the the photos Guilbert ; very informative . Does anyone have further information about the demolished industrial building just off Broad Street ?It makes me wonder if the Ikon Gallery building was under threat around the same time .We also lost that church with its impressive spire nearby too .
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Thanks Guilbert, it's really interesting for me to see that area as it used to be, as I wasn't even alive what a lot of what you documented took place, yet the area changed almost beyond recognition in just a few years.
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Great pics there, guilbert! That big industrial building was fantastic - I think it may have been a brewery and lent it's name partly to the Malthouse, further down the canal.

Those pics are invaluable though, really great that you hung onto them.
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Those pics are invaluable though, really great that you hung onto them.
As I said, I have more, I will post some of them next week.
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I'll look forward to them Guilbert .

So that building was a brewery .It looks quite tall in that photo .
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