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Old July 15th, 2010, 11:56 PM   #181
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Because nobody here asking same questions to other bids.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 12:11 AM   #182
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Coth is turning it political by bringing up stalled Russia-EU visa-free regime negotiations, which, by the way, have no relation to Russia's possible hosting of the 2018 event. If there isn't some sort of visa-free agreement in place by 2018, it will absolutely be up to the hosting country to accommodate a temporary visa easement and not up to other countries.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 12:43 AM   #183
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KALININGRAD (45,015)


STADIUM

The new FIFA World Cup™ Stadium Kaliningrad will be situated on the banks of an island around which flows the Pregolya River. Its star-like design reflects the shape of the historic entrenchment that lies outside the city. Water is featured in the old defence architecture as well as in the new city development and plays an important role in the landscape design of the precinct, allowing for stunning views of the city centre and harbour of Kaliningrad. With its FIFA World Cup™ Stadium, Kaliningrad will deliver a football venue of the highest quality. Designed to meet all the FIFA requirements to host group games, Kaliningrad will have a capacity of 45,015 seats.

FAN FEST

The Kneiphof Island in the historic city centre of Kaliningrad shall host the main Fan Fest of this Host City. The island is one of the city's main tourist attractions accommodating several museums, Kaliningrad Cathedral and the grave of Immanuel Kant. The island is connected to the mainland through five bridges.












WOW... why not just steal baltic arena from Poland, while your at it.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 02:00 AM   #184
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Is Russia planning to ease off on its strict VISA requirements at least for the duration of the World Cup, should they get it?
Yes! I even wrote it in this thread.

+ no money for travelling between cities by railroads for those who have tickets.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 02:05 AM   #185
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WOW... why not just steal baltic arena from Poland, while your at it.
Because Poland is not bidding . And many stadiums look the same if you didn't notice.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 02:48 AM   #186
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Yes! I even wrote it in this thread.

+ no money for travelling between cities by railroads for those who have tickets.
Thank you, AILD.

See, coth? That's how it's done.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 07:33 AM   #187
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Because nobody here asking same questions to other bids.
Sometimes it's as innocent as people (in my case Australians) may be more familiar with the entry requirements of one counrty over another. Not an attack and I certainly didn't mean for you to take a defensive position.


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Yes! I even wrote it in this thread.

+ no money for travelling between cities by railroads for those who have tickets.
Thanks AILD, sorry for that. I should have looked deeper in the thread.

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Old July 16th, 2010, 09:16 AM   #188
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I love this bid. I'm really rooting for it. I've never been to Russia, but the cities look beautiful and the stadiums are outstanding. Go Russia!
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Old July 16th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #189
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BID HIGHLIGHTS BROCHURE
http://issuu.com/readytoinspire/docs...owFlipBtn=true
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en.aspx
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Old July 16th, 2010, 03:25 PM   #190
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Because Poland is not bidding . And many stadiums look the same if you didn't notice.
Actually baltic areena is the right a round shaped stadium, but the facade and the gold-ish, amber theme is unique. Which russia just shamefully ripped off.

Give me another stadium that has curvy tiers and a completely rorund facade?

Give me another stadium which facade was based on amber stones and a goldish theme.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 08:06 PM   #191
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I love this bid. I'm really rooting for it. I've never been to Russia, but the cities look beautiful and the stadiums are outstanding. Go Russia!
I'm, not too fazed about who wins 2018 (bar Spain 'cos 1982 is to soon compared to the others) but I sure do like the Stadium proposals from Russia an it certainly wouldn't be disappointed if they won. Definitely a culture and history that fascinates me.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #192
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I look at it like which country would I like to visit the most to see a World Cup. I am really interested in Russia, their cities, their culture, etc. By 2018 I hope to have the money to go to a World Cup, so that's what I am judging them on.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 08:29 PM   #193
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I agree somewhat but I also consider what each country has given to soccer and who hasn't hosted before. Thats why I don't care for some English who reason they have had to wait +44 years when Benelux hasn't hosted, neither Russia. I see the Iberian bid as Spains with Portugal as a token host. That being said they would all make fine hosts.
England gave the world Soccer but they have hosted and won it. after that I say the Netherlands in the tatical philosophies they have developed which revolutionised the game since the 70's. Spain obviously just won but Russia is something special.

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Old July 17th, 2010, 12:42 AM   #194
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Actually baltic areena is the right a round shaped stadium, but the facade and the gold-ish, amber theme is unique. Which russia just shamefully ripped off.
Smells like famous big polish ego .
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Old July 17th, 2010, 01:00 AM   #195
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Smells like famous big polish ego .
Ok so, i guess building an exact replica of Moscow's palace and other hardly existent Russian monuments, in Poland wouldn't bother you?

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Admit-tingly it would look pretty cool. Of course if we would build a replica, we would improve it and make it better and bigger, just for the hell of it. After all we have to find what to do with all thats money what's gonna come in form our own gas and other minerals. xD I can aslo see Russia's federation tower fit along nicely in Warsaw's skyline.

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Old July 17th, 2010, 02:28 AM   #196
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You know that comparing St. Basel's Cathedral (one of the main today's Wonder of the World) and color and external view of the football stadium is a bit unproportional .
Just go away, troll.

P.S. every person who work in gas sphere can admit that "shale gas" is another "bubble", which has many talks and no result. Because it is much more expensive and it has major consequances for grounds.

But seems like you know nothing about this theme . It's so easy to manipulate poles. j/k

End this absurd, masterpaul.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 10:35 AM   #197
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Because nobody here asking same questions to other bids.
I think you are missing the point of the original question, its not about visas as such, but about countries who make it difficult to get a visa full stop.

for instance, I have previously had to obtain visas for the USA and China. USA was a breeze (submit application and passport, and done), and China used to be fine (invite letter, app form, passport).

prior to Beijing 2008 however, China upped its visa requirements, and they now required more time to review the app, and wanted tickets pre-payed. They also started getting concerned about invite letters (some in govt were convinced tibet protesters would pretend to be in China on business, and go to protest the games). Not a deal breaker, but a hassle that was annoying. I normally travel in and out of China several times while there for work (i.e. HK-SZ-HK-GZ-HK-SH), and how/when/where depends upon client demands. Trying to explain this to an official at the consulate took a bit of doing!!

France on the other hand is a nightmare for my wife. As she is Chinese, she has to buy her ticket, fly to Sydney, submit her ticket, app form, passport to the Sydney consulate, AND submit to biometric testing. The fact she has to spend $300 on flights just to get a visa (France only has its Sydney consulate doing the biometric testing) means we are not going to France anymore.

I know friends who have had issues getting visas for Russia - it was not impossible, just annoying. To get tourism flowing more, I'd keep your visas in place, but make the process of applying for them and getting them a bit easier


** please note Russia is not alone for this issue, I know USA demands for Australians to have mandatory finger printing prior to entering the States deterred some from visiting, similar with the notoriously long queues at security at USA airports. while issues like this don't win/lose you a WC, if you have a lot of little issues like this it does add up (like our stupid AFL/NRL comps trying to cause issues with our bid)

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Old July 17th, 2010, 05:18 PM   #198
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It's a breeze for you because you are from Australia. For Russians or Chinese it's often not just annoying, but simply impossible to get USA or UK visa. Especially UK visa.
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It's a breeze for you because you are from Australia. For Russians or Chinese it's often not just annoying, but simply impossible to get USA or UK visa. Especially UK visa.
Impossible?

What a bout the thousands of Russians who are now in London.

If they couldn't get a visa, perhaps Scottie beamed them there via the Starship Enterprise?
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What about thousands who were rejected to get visa without even explanations?
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