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Old July 17th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #201
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What about thousands who were rejected to get visa without even explanations?
Redundant question.

You asserted that it was impossible for Russians to get a visa to travel to the UK.

Clearly, that is a lie.

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Old July 17th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #202
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Redundant question.

You asserted that it was impossible for Russians to get a visa to travel to the UK.

Clearly, that is a lie.

Case closed.
No man, it's a reality. Very large portion of visa inquiries gets rejected with no rights to apply for visa within next year or two depending on a country.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #203
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I wish the stadiums were bigger. There's Moscow, St. Petersburg and then a bunch of stadiums 40,000-45,000. England is offering more large stadiums, as is Spain/Portugal and Netherlands/Belgium. It would be a shame that with the exception of two stadiums, every match would be confined to near minimum capacity stadiums. It's a European World Cup, which means added visitors for the event and you could have Quarterfinal games with fans trying madly to get their hands on 40,000 tickets.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 09:18 PM   #204
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Moscow has larger quantity due to large number of sporting clubs. 7 stadiums is quite enough. It simply does not need one more 80000 stadium. I'm sure quarterfinals will take a place in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. After all i'm sure some of those will expand capacity if Russia will take World Cup.
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Old July 18th, 2010, 01:45 PM   #206
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So why is Red Square backwards?
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Old July 18th, 2010, 02:43 PM   #207
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Jim, you just can't imagine the amount of red tape I have to go through every time I go to the U.K. Sometimes your embassy would just postpone my application for so long that I have to cancel my trip. And every time some british official comes to Moscow and starts talking about "making it easier for russians to go to the U.K.", they introduce some new stupid rules - like a written note by my grandma that says I was a good boy when i was 7 y/o.
That said, our embassies abroad are no better, so waving visas would be a win-win situation, but for some reason your government has always opposed the idea. I don't get it why Venezuela or Vietnam is ahead of the U.K. or the U.S.A. in this matter.

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Old July 18th, 2010, 07:33 PM   #208
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I don't get it why Venezuela or Vietnam is ahead of the U.K. or the U.S.A. in this matter.
...mainly because more people are likely to want to try to overstay their visa and work illegally in the USA or UK than in Venezuela or Vietnam.


To be honest, visas are almost certainly a non-issue, as I'm sure it will be a precondition of any bid that fans with tickets will be issued visas unless there's some compelling reason to ban them.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 12:53 AM   #209
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All russian mafia that wanted to go abroad and do shady things there is already there.

Now you've got middle-class, businessmen and a lot of rich tourists who want to spend money in your country suffering from bureaucracy.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 10:59 AM   #210
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I like the designs of all the new stadiums in Russia. I'm happy to see that the country is on a move to build modern new stadiums everywhere, but I still hate the old communist Olympic Stadium in Moscow. Of course, it's only a stadium, the rest are very nice.
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Old July 21st, 2010, 02:10 AM   #211
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The Betfair Contrarian: Why Russia will host the 2018 World Cup

England are favourites to host the 2018 World Cup which would mean plenty of Union Jack waving and singing of "Football's Coming Home". The Betfair Contrarian thinks we don't need to bother envisaging such scenarios though because Russia will be the ones hosting it...

Amazing fact of the day: England are favourites to host the 2018 World Cup, despite offending FIFA board members, tinkering with their bid team so often that you'd swear Claudio Ranieri must pulling the strings from somewhere, accusing rivals of plotting to bribe referees and being undermined by their own newspapers. There's no complaint from the Contrarian though, who instead intends to exploit the patriotic, misplaced optimism of a bet on England by backing Russia at 3.4...

Every rival bid has clear flaws

Besides Russia, there are four bids to stage the 2018 World Cup: England, USA, Spain/Portugal and Holland/Belgium, but holes can be picked into every one. With the next World Cup taking place in Brazil, this is the first time that there have been two successive finals held outside of Europe, and unfortunately for USA, it's unthinkable that they would make it three in a row. England may be 2.16 favourites, but if the decision truly is made on the merits of the bid and organisation, awarding it to England would be laughable after all the shambolic preparation. Joint bids are no longer in vogue either, with Japan and South Korea in 2002 the only nations ever to co-host.

FIFA will likely opt for a first-time host

There is a strong pattern suggesting that FIFA like to alternate between hosts who have taken care of the competition in the past and fresh blood. It started in 1986 with the surprising choice to give Colombia the chance (though they would later resign), then the safe option of Italy was taken in 1990 ahead of a step into the unknown by taking the World Cup stateside in 1994, before Japan and South Korea (2002) and South Africa (2010) took turns sandwiched between France (1998), Germany (2006) and Brazil (2014), who had all hosted the competition before. FIFA can afford to snub countries like England safe in the knowledge that the majority of the nation will still tune in, so prefer to cement the sports popularity in other regions.

Russia is the fresh but safe option

The reason Russia is the ideal choice for FIFA is that they will be giving a new country the opportunity to host but should steer clear of all the "will they be ready in time?" scaremongering that plagued the build-up to the 2010 World Cup and has already cropped up with regards to Brazil in 2014. Russia already have eight 30,000-plus capacity stadiums and some of their richest businessmen are happy to put their hands in their pocket when needed, as Roman Abramovich showed by contributing to Guus Hiddink's wages during his time as national coach.

It would reward their domestic growth

The Russian attempt also deserves serious consideration because the Russian FA has delivered significant improvement in their game at club level in recent years. The foundation of the Russian Premier League in 2001 saw Spartak Moscow's domestic dominance curbed, CSKA Moscow (2004) and Zenit St Petersburg (2008) earned the country its first European trophies by winning the UEFA Cup and the league is now ranked the sixth best in Europe, having been as low as 21st in 2004. By rewarding such improvement, FIFA can be seen to offer an incentive for others to work harder, which is also in their own interests.

Blatter is clearly a fan

If the Contrarian talking up Russia's credentials doesn't convince you, then maybe FIFA president Sepp Blatter's words of wisdom will sway you: "I was there recently and what they presented is remarkable. Russia is not a country but a continent and Russia has big plans to expand."
http://betting.betfair.com/internati...20-200710.html
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Old July 29th, 2010, 03:35 AM   #212
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RUSSIA PREPARES FOR FIFA INSPECTION VISIT



The campaign to select the host country for either the 2018 or 2022 FIFA World Cup™ reaches its final four months, which are the most crucial of the bid process. On 19 July, the FIFA inspection delegation set off on a two-month tour to visit countries bidding to host the World Cup events in 2018 or 2022.

The delegation will arrive in Russia on 16 August for a four-day visit. Out of the 13 cities included in Russia's bid, the committee will visit four: Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kazan and Sochi. The inspectors will examine the country's airports, hotels, stadiums and transport infrastructure, while also assessing the presentation of the country's bid. They will leave Russia on 19 August.

On the eve of the FIFA inspection visit, a delegation of the Russia 2018/2022 FIFA World Cup Bid Committee also visited the four cities.

The visit began with St. Petersburg, where the delegation arrived on 6 July to inspect the Petrovsky stadium, which was selected as a training facility for World Cup teams, as well as a new stadium construction site on Krestovsky Island.

On a visit to Kazan on 7 July, the Bid Committee delegates surveyed the construction site for a new 45,000 seat football stadium, the Central Stadium and the Olymp Stadium, of the Kazan State Technical University. They also participated in a conference with Tatarstan's Prime Minister Ildar Khalikov.

On 15 July, the delegation was in Sochi, which is preparing to host the 2014 Winter Olympic Games. Bid CEO Alexei Sorokin met with municipal and local officials, after which the delegation inspected the Sochi airport and the sites for sports facilities named in Russia's bid book. The officials took special interest in several hotels and the Metreveli Stadium.

With all sites approved, Russia 2018/2022 waits excitedly for the FIFA Inspection delegation to arrive and see how truly ready the country is to host a World Cup.

Schedule of FIFA inspection visit of nations bidding to host the 2018/2022 World Cup:

19-22 July: Japan,

22- 25 July: South Korea,

26-29 July: Australia,

9-12 August: the Netherlands and Belgium,

16-19 August: Russia,

23-26 August: Britain,

30 August - 2 September: Spain and Portugal,

6-9 September: the United States,

13-17 September: Qatar.
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INTERNATIONAL SPORTS FORUM IN MOSCOW



Vitaly Mutko, Russia's Minister for Sport, Tourism and Youth, Russian Football Union President, Sergei Fursenko and Alexey Sorokin, CEO of Russia's Bid Committee for the 2018/2022 FIFA World Cup™, will be presenting the latest status of Russia's bidding activities for FIFA's flagship competition at the Annual International Sport Forum "Russia - Country of Sports".

With the bidding campaign to select the host country for either the 2018 or 2022 FIFA World Cup™ reaching its crucial stage, the Annual International Sport Forum at Moscow's Luzhniki Olympic complex from 29 July to 1 August provides a high-profile opportunity to present Russia's bid. Luzhniki Stadium has been put forward to FIFA as the proposed stadium for the opening and final matches should the FIFA World Cup™ be awarded to Russia.

"As the title states, the Annual International Sport forum stands testament to Russia's status as a country of sports and the enormous capacities we have to host the biggest sporting events in the world", commented Bid Committee CEO Alexey Sorokin. "We are honored to be present at this prestigious event so that we may demonstrate how our football community is ready to continue Russia's great and successful tradition as host country of such events."

The Forum will be attended by the President of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Medvedev, who established the event by a special decree in 2009, with the first edition taking place in October of the same year in Kazan. Kazan, home of current Russian football champions Rubin Kazan and host city of the 2013 Universiade Games, is also among the proposed Host Cities for the FIFA World Cup™. The 2010 edition of the Forum is held in celebration of the 30th anniversary of the 1980 Olympic Games that took place in Moscow.

The Forum's programme includes a number of open sessions, 10 conferences, congresses, and nine round tables. 21 heads of international sports federations, associations and public institutions, members of the International Olympic Committee as well as senior representatives of national Olympic committees of different countries will be in attendance. The total number of the Forum participants is over 3,000 people.

The Forum comes some two weeks ahead of the visit of a delegation of FIFA experts, who will conduct an on-site inspection in Russia from 16 to 19 August. Currently, representatives of the Bid Committee are present at Soccerex in Singapore to state its case to the Asian Football family on 28 and 29 July. FIFA will designate the host nations for the 2018 and 2022 World Cup tournaments at a special meeting of the Executive Committee on 2 December 2010.
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 10:05 PM   #214
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Schedule of Inspection Visit and Media Arrangements
Moscow, 12 August 2010 - From 16 to 19 August 2010, the FIFA Inspection Group to assess the Russian Bid for the 2018/2022 FIFA World Cup™ will be visiting four of the proposed Host Cities, namely St. Petersburg, Moscow, Kazan and Sochi. In each of the four cities, the group will be shown a number of specific locations and facilities so as to provide them with a complete overview of the numerous assets of the Russian candidature.

In accordance with FIFA regulations, at the beginning of the tour on Monday, 16 August 2010, there will be a media briefing at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo airport from 15.15 to 15.30. The briefing will provide statements by the Head of the FIFA inspection Group, Harold Mayne- Nicholls, and Bid Committee Chairman Vitaly Mutko, who is also Russia's Minister for Sports, Tourism and Youth Policy. Concluding the inspection tour, there will be another media briefing on 19 August 2010 in Moscow at Domodedovo airport, scheduled for 12.20 to 12.35. On both occasions, statements only will be given, with no opportunity for a Q and A session.

During the inspection itself, there will be a number of video and photo opportunities, such as in St. Petersburg during the visit to the proposed Fan Fest location on Palace Square. In Moscow, video and photo opportunities will be on 17 August at Luzhniki Stadium. Other opportunities will be on 18 August in Kazan for the inauguration ceremony at the Olymp Stadium as well as in Sochi at the Metreveli Central Stadium, one of the proposed team base camps.

Moreover, so as to provide comprehensive information on the tour as a whole, the Russian Bid Committee will make available additional footage and still pictures.

The schedule is:

Monday, 16 August 2010 - St. Petersburg





Other events on the programme of 16 August are the Saint Petersburg host city presentation, a visit to the FIFA World CupTM Stadium Saint Petersburg, a tour of Mariinsky Theatre (venue for Preliminary Draw) and dinner at Yusupov palace.

Tuesday, 17 August 2010 - Moscow





Other events on the programme of 17 August are the bid presentation at a Russian Federation Government Reception House, the Moscow host city presentation, a tour of the proposed facility for the International Broadcasting Centre as well as the proposed FIFA Headquarters, visits to Manezh Exhibition Hall (Final Draw venue), Gostiny Dvor Congress Centre (FIFA Congress venue), the Red Square (Fan Fest location) and dinner at the Kremlin.

Wednesday, 18 August 2010 - Kazan and Sochi






Other events on the programme of 18 August are in Kazan the presentation of the airport upgrading project, the presentation of the Stadium site, the host city presentation and a visit to the Fan Fest Location at Kazan Kremlin, while in Sochi there will be a host city presentation, the site visit of the future Olympic Stadium, presentations on the development and legacy and a dinner hosted by the Bid Committee.

Thursday, 19 August 2010 - Moscow, departure
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Old August 13th, 2010, 03:17 PM   #217
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So love to see Russia to get the event in 2018.
Im going to Sochi for the winter olympics.

What is their to do in Russia?
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Old August 13th, 2010, 05:03 PM   #218
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Why is Perm not included as a candidate host city?
Ural cluster consist just Yekaterinburg, imho it's not really a cluster. It has just only one stadium.
Perm is much bigger than eg Yaroslavl or Saransk. Amkar Perm is playing in Premier League, while Shinnik not.
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