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Old July 11th, 2010, 04:02 PM   #161
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Fantastic !

Simply the best new stadium building in a old stadium, better than Lepzig and Besiktas projetcs.
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Old July 14th, 2010, 02:45 PM   #162
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10 Russian host cities of the 2018 World Cup have sea or river ports:
Kaliningrad(Baltic Sea)
Saint Petersburg(Baltic Sea, Neva River)
Moscow(Moskva River)
Yaroslav, Nizhny Novgorod, Kazan, Samara, Volgograd(all Volga River)
Rostov-on-Don(Don River)
Sochi(Black Sea)
http://www.travelallrussia.com/russi...-on-don-7.html
Baltic Sea<>Neva River<>Ladoga Lake<>Onega Lake<>Volga River<>Don River<>Sea of Azov<>Black Sea
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Old July 14th, 2010, 11:10 PM   #163
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Rus and ekaterinburg,Saransk and Krasnodar
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Old July 14th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #164
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The only way i can se Russia getting it ahead of England would be corruption. England has the stadiums, the culture and has waited WAY to long. I wouldnt mind russia getting it smetime in the future though, but USA and spain should probably get a second first.

Edit: the above stadium is really cool, nice vid
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Old July 14th, 2010, 11:49 PM   #165
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But if FIFA is serious about spreading the game then Russia could very well steal it, after all they have the almost unlimited funds to throw at it and build the stadiums.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 01:44 PM   #166
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The only way i can se Russia getting it ahead of England would be corruption. England has the stadiums, the culture and has waited WAY to long. I wouldnt mind russia getting it smetime in the future though, but USA and spain should probably get a second first.

Edit: the above stadium is really cool, nice vid
It's already got what it was waited for. England has hosted 1966 World Cup. There were only 11 World Cups since that and there are way more than 11 countries which never hosted, but willing to host it. Not to mention France 1998 and Germany 2006. Both can be counted as home for England, as both are cheap for Brits, just few hours away from Britain and does not require any visas and any international documents. Russia 2018 bid covers area more than UK, France, Germany and rest of countries between them.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 05:34 PM   #167
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I wrote about 10 cities, which are connected waterways. I think this will be our chip. Tourists from South Europe (Italy, Spain, Croatia, Greece and others) will be able to travel through Russia from the south to north along the Russian rivers for their National teams. And from Northern Europe (England, Netherlands, Germany, Sweden and others) can be reached by ships or yachts in the South of Russia to Rostov and Sochi.

P.S. Navigation is developed only on the Kuban River in the Krasnodar region, but there is no way in the Black Sea and other basins. Ekaterinburg and Saransk not have water transport, but there are rivers and lakes for swimming.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 05:44 PM   #168
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The only way i can se Russia getting it ahead of England would be corruption. England has the stadiums, the culture and has waited WAY to long. I wouldnt mind russia getting it smetime in the future though, but USA and spain should probably get a second first.

Edit: the above stadium is really cool, nice vid
England has more and better stadiums now but, by 2018, both countries will have great stadiums.

And, sure, England has waited far too long to host the World Cup. But, having never been host country, Russia has waited even longer!

Too close to call, IMO. And we can't write off Holland / Belgium and Spain / Portugal either........though, IMO, they are the outsiders (Iberia especially) because they both involve two bidding nations and that would mean one less qualification place for UEFA.
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It's already got what it was waited for. England has hosted 1966 World Cup. There were only 11 World Cups since that and there are way more than 11 countries which never hosted, but willing to host it. Not to mention France 1998 and Germany 2006. Both can be counted as home for England, as both are cheap for Brits, just few hours away from Britain and does not require any visas and any international documents. Russia 2018 bid covers area more than UK, France, Germany and rest of countries between them.
If Russia get 2018, is there going to be any relaxation on Russia's Strick visa requirements?
I had two friends that were denied a visa because of rigid technicalities (don't write "See attached Documentation" when asked point and dates of entry and departure from Russia )
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Old July 15th, 2010, 06:34 PM   #170
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que hermosos estadios de futbol para rusia felicidades amigos............
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Old July 15th, 2010, 06:47 PM   #171
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If Russia get 2018, is there going to be any relaxation on Russia's Strick visa requirements?
I had two friends that were denied a visa because of rigid technicalities (don't write "See attached Documentation" when asked point and dates of entry and departure from Russia )
The question is - will UK lift visa requirments during Olympic Games. I highly doubt so. Russia is ready to lift requirments for EU just this year. All depend on EU only.
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um, that wasn't my question, I thought this was the thread to ask Russians about the Russian Bid and related issues. I can ask an Englishman about their bid and country in their World Cup thread.
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Speaking of Australia - as far as i know Australia has no any plans to lift requirments for Russia. So yet again - it's all up to Australia.
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Speaking of Australia - as far as i know Australia has no any plans to lift requirments for Russia. So yet again - it's all up to Australia.
You still haven't answered the question.

Is Russia planning to ease off on its strict VISA requirements at least for the duration of the World Cup, should they get it? You say that plans are afoot for EU countries. What about the rest of the world?
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Speaking of Australia - as far as i know Australia has no any plans to lift requirments for Russia. So yet again - it's all up to Australia.
I was not aware of that. Maybe Russia could be the better man and relax there restrictions first, show us Australians something. God knows many people would love to travel in Russia but are put off by the visa headaches. It's easier to go to the Ukraine.
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You still haven't answered the question.

Is Russia planning to ease off on its strict VISA requirements at least for the duration of the World Cup, should they get it? You say that plans are afoot for EU countries. What about the rest of the world?
Does it so matter?
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Old July 15th, 2010, 09:24 PM   #177
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I was not aware of that. Maybe Russia could be the better man and relax there restrictions first, show us Australians something. God knows many people would love to travel in Russia but are put off by the visa headaches. It's easier to go to the Ukraine.
Russia is said to ready cancel visa for most of the World any time. But those things cannot be done in a one gate. It could be done only by double side agreements. Two months ago Australia said not wishing to do it.
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Does it so matter?
Yes....if you're planning to welcome hundreds of thousands of football fans to your country, most of whom will be arriving at the same time and many of whom will only decide to travel at the last moment (especially if their team does better than expected).

I'd have thought that it mattered quite a lot.
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Well then all of bidding countries have same problem. So it won't affect anyone.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 10:18 PM   #180
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Well then all of bidding countries have same problem. So it won't affect anyone.
Who said anything about other countries?

Wallbanger only asked a reasonable question about Russia's visa requirements on this thread because......................................................well, because this is the thread about the Russian bid. Pretty glaringly obvious, I would have thought.

Why so defensive? Why do you keep bringing other bid countries into it?
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