Positively Communist

Gherkin · January 29th, 2010, 02:23 AM

Thread Instructions:

1) Click play on the youtube video and continue to step 2). Do not watch the video, just listen to it.

2) Browse communist pictures at your own pace

3) Add more (only) positive thoughts about communism, it's great influence on music, art and architecture.

the great unbuilt communist structure:

drawings by Iakov Chernikhov:

go on... what do you like most about communism?

El Mariachi · January 29th, 2010, 02:26 AM

the hot Soviet women can stay, the rest can go back to the 80's movie cliches where they belong.

belfastuniguy · January 29th, 2010, 02:29 AM

Bring back Tsarist Russia!!!

Gherkin · January 29th, 2010, 02:29 AM

more brillint communist music; note the huge bass balalaika in the background:

belfastuniguy · January 29th, 2010, 02:33 AM

also...

Isn't communist, was built in 1911, during the reign of the Tsar.

Gherkin · January 29th, 2010, 02:38 AM

I found the picture on my travels but couldn't find any info on it - I thought it looked quite tacky - something thrown up in the 70s out of plasterboard for perhaps a film set. If I remove the offending picture from my post would that be an act of thread communism?

belfastuniguy · January 29th, 2010, 02:53 AM

Yes it may very well be considered as such

Nightjar · January 29th, 2010, 02:59 AM

Tatlin's Tower

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatlin's_Tower

xXFallenXx · January 29th, 2010, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gherkin

Can I get the back-story?

belfastuniguy · January 29th, 2010, 05:34 AM

It's a reconstruction of the old Soviet K7 Heavy Bomber, not sure it actually flies though.

Gzdvtz · January 29th, 2010, 11:12 AM

For balance we need a 'Positively National-Socialist' thread.

Nightjar · January 29th, 2010, 11:15 AM

Along similar lines - with the revolutionary forward swept wing - the Sukhoi Su-47 Berkut.

Octoman · January 29th, 2010, 12:27 PM

After reading this thread I am feeling a little bit Communist right now.

Gherkin · January 29th, 2010, 12:41 PM

Is it the music? The architecture? The people? I hope everyone's following the thread instructions. Communist punishments if you aren't.

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Originally Posted by Nightjar

Tatlin's Tower

I wanted to include this but couldn't remember the name! Thanks

Cherguevara · January 29th, 2010, 12:51 PM

The work of the constructivists in the early years of the revolution are some of my favourite pieces of 20th century art and design. Of course when the revolution was won the Soviet cultural scence quickly descended into stagnation and "Socialist Realist" folk pastiche. But while it was good it was great.

Should probably add that if communism hadn't been attempted and failed then there would still be many people advocating for it, so you could argue it's a good thing it's in the past rather than the future.

Juan · January 29th, 2010, 01:50 PM

The tanks in Red Square and Russian police manhandling someone are simply darling!

And who can forget Stalin?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gzdvtz

For balance we need a 'Positively National-Socialist' thread.

mexico86 · January 29th, 2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherguevara

Should probably add that if communism hadn't been attempted and failed then there would still be many people advocating for it, so you could argue it's a good thing it's in the past rather than the future.

+1

Also, I think we can credit Russian communism for influencing the political landscape of Western Europe. Although we managed to stay out of the commie sphere of influence, a lot of people here wanted communism and hence we've been infected with a lot of socialistic ideas, for better or worse. Just look at the Labour party...

Cherguevara · January 29th, 2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mexico86

+1

Also, I think we can credit Russian communism for influencing the political landscape of Western Europe. Although we managed to stay out of the commie sphere of influence, a lot of people here wanted communism and hence we've been infected with a lot of socialistic ideas, for better or worse. Just look at the Labour party...

In terms of the Labour Party that's not really true, although it may be for individual members. The Labour Party is rooted in the workers and trade union movements and to a lesser extent the non-conformist churches of the 19th Century, and not directly influenced by Soviet Communism. Communists were traditionally very opposed to alternative socialist movements, be they democratic socialists or anarchists (see Homage to Catalonia) and the Labour Party rejected the inclusion of communist groups within it in the 1920s.

UncleScrooge · January 29th, 2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gherkin

Looks like something out of a 'Tailspin'-episode. Quite sure there was one of these airplanes that a badguy was building - probably got their inspiration from this one.

Other than that I'm going to be serious and boring and say no, the world would be a better place today if there wouldn't have been any communism, even if some may argue that it was a product of its time.

Nightjar · January 29th, 2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherguevara

The work of the constructivists in the early years of the revolution are some of my favourite pieces of 20th century art and design. Of course when the revolution was won the Soviet cultural scence quickly descended into stagnation and "Socialist Realist" folk pastiche. But while it was good it was great.

Very true - much of the radical art and design put forward by the Constructivists was embaced initially, but was soon seen as suspect and ultimately sidelined.

A great betrayal, but frankly just one of many.

Berthold Lubetkin, the architect of London Zoo's penguin pool was a Constructivist.

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January 29th, 2010, 02:23 AM	#1
Gherkin actual gherkin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 13,746 Likes (Received): 161	Positively Communist Thread Instructions: 1) Click play on the youtube video and continue to step 2). Do not watch the video, just listen to it. 2) Browse communist pictures at your own pace 3) Add more (only) positive thoughts about communism, it's great influence on music, art and architecture. the great unbuilt communist structure: drawings by Iakov Chernikhov: go on... what do you like most about communism?

January 29th, 2010, 11:12 AM	#11
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Cherguevara Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,755 Likes (Received): 76	The work of the constructivists in the early years of the revolution are some of my favourite pieces of 20th century art and design. Of course when the revolution was won the Soviet cultural scence quickly descended into stagnation and "Socialist Realist" folk pastiche. But while it was good it was great. Should probably add that if communism hadn't been attempted and failed then there would still be many people advocating for it, so you could argue it's a good thing it's in the past rather than the future. Last edited by Cherguevara; January 29th, 2010 at 01:59 PM.

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January 29th, 2010, 02:26 AM	#2
El Mariachi Has Left the Building Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Near Lake Michigan Posts: 6,000 Likes (Received): 86	the hot Soviet women can stay, the rest can go back to the 80's movie cliches where they belong.

January 29th, 2010, 02:29 AM	#3
belfastuniguy Subliving Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 11,764 Likes (Received): 223	Bring back Tsarist Russia!!!

January 29th, 2010, 02:33 AM	#5
belfastuniguy Subliving Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 11,764 Likes (Received): 223	also... Isn't communist, was built in 1911, during the reign of the Tsar.

January 29th, 2010, 02:38 AM	#6
Gherkin actual gherkin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 13,746 Likes (Received): 161	I found the picture on my travels but couldn't find any info on it - I thought it looked quite tacky - something thrown up in the 70s out of plasterboard for perhaps a film set. If I remove the offending picture from my post would that be an act of thread communism?

January 29th, 2010, 02:53 AM	#7
belfastuniguy Subliving Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 11,764 Likes (Received): 223	Yes it may very well be considered as such

January 29th, 2010, 02:59 AM	#8
Nightjar Bird Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under a hedge Posts: 13,862 Likes (Received): 281	Tatlin's Tower http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatlin's_Tower

January 29th, 2010, 05:34 AM	#10
belfastuniguy Subliving Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 11,764 Likes (Received): 223	It's a reconstruction of the old Soviet K7 Heavy Bomber, not sure it actually flies though.

January 29th, 2010, 11:15 AM	#12
Nightjar Bird Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under a hedge Posts: 13,862 Likes (Received): 281	Along similar lines - with the revolutionary forward swept wing - the Sukhoi Su-47 Berkut.

January 29th, 2010, 12:27 PM	#13
Octoman Boo! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 20,726 Likes (Received): 501	After reading this thread I am feeling a little bit Communist right now.