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Old January 17th, 2011, 05:24 AM   #81
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Will it (KTM) connected to Iskandar? Any plan of expansion for KTM in Johor?
KTM komuter Selatan is an ongoing plan

first they have to double track & electrify the corridor from Gemas to Kempas, then down through JB.

Then they have to build Kempas Sentral.

Then they have to double track & electrify the corridors from Kempas to Pasir Gudang and Tanjung Pelapas.

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they should give the priority to the kempas-pasir gudang corridor
to give an alternative to the pasir gudang highway...
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Old January 17th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #83
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M’sia-S’pore deal leads to property openings
More optimal usage of track land possible
By ANGIE NG Monday January 17, 2011
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...5&sec=business



Brian Koh says the railway agreement has unfolded
a new chapter for Malaysia and Singapore.


PETALING JAYA: The recent historic agreement between Malaysia and Singapore to settle the long-standing railway land issue which runs through Singapore to Malaysia will open up property development opportunities in Singapore and Iskandar Malaysia not envisaged before, a property consultant said.

According to DTZ Research in its latest report, the warmer bilateral relations, and smoother and cheaper transport system arising from the agreement will give a boost across all property sectors in Iskandar Malaysia.

“With a proposed mass rapid transit (MRT) line linking Johor Baru city centre to Nusajaya, there will be a tendency for a shift in value towards Nusajaya as more newer physical developments take place and the cost of using the Second Link becomes more competitive,” the report added.

For Singapore, judicious land allocation has always been an integral part of real estate planning and development given its limited land size. The reversion of the railway land will thus enable the authorities to amalgamate the track land with adjacent sites and bring about more optimal use of the land.

DTZ Malaysia executive director Brian Koh said the railway agreement had unfolded a new chapter for Malaysia and Singapore and both countries can co-build a new growth story that resembles the Hong Kong-Shenzhen Metropolis model.

However, unlike Hong Kong and Shenzhen which are both under one country, a lot more co-operation and government involvement is needed between Singapore and Malaysia to overcome two distinct economic and legal systems and build trust and co-operation, while pursuing their respective national and economic objectives.

“The degree of success of Iskandar Malaysia will be partially determined by political co-operation with neighbouring Singapore as well as by economic factors,” Koh said.

More skilled and semi-skilled migrants from other parts of Malaysia may be attracted to reside in Iskandar Malaysia to take advantage of the employment opportunities in Singapore through daily commute without having to pay for the high residential cost of living across the causeway.

“Demand for homes from foreign buyers, particularly Singaporeans, is envisaged to improve due to the higher confidence level in Iskandar Malaysia from the warming bilateral ties,” he added.

In the office sector, there is potential for a shift of low-end commercial service activities, namely back office processes, from Singapore into the Johor Baru central business district to take advantage of cost arbitration, given the widespread use of the English language and the general availability of mid-level executives in Johor.

The retail and hotel sectors will also benefit from the higher tourist flow into Johor, while more industrial and logistics investments can also be expected from Singapore.

DTZ head of South-East Asia Research Chua Chor Hoon said that among the returned railway land in Singapore, the railway station site at Tanjong Pagar had the greatest redevelopment potential given its size and the government's plans for this district.

While the rest of the returned land are unlikely to be developed anytime soon, one area that is likely to see some earlier new developments will be at Bukit Panjang where a MRT station would be ready in 2015, providing some impetus to develop the vacant land around it.

The once sleepy Tanjong Pagar area is perking up with newly completed and pipeline offices, hotels and apartments. Higher rents and prices are being achieved and more investors are becoming interested in the area.

“The Spottiswoode area just north of the railway station may be totally rejuvenated as the old existing residential developments are prime candidates for redevelopment,” Chua said.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 12:51 PM   #84
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I took some pictures when I was in JB today. The old tracks have been taken out and it seems that they are making it higher and laying new tracks soon.


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1IkMQf4n9z8/TT...0/DSC01316.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1IkMQf4n9z8/TT...0/DSC01317.JPG
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Old January 19th, 2011, 02:08 PM   #85
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Found this article that was posted in the property trends 2011 thread in the Singapore forum. It is related.

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Masteel, KUB in RM1b plan for inter-city rail transit infra in Iskandar Malaysia
Written by Joseph Chin of theedgemalaysia.com
Wednesday, 19 January 2011 16:53

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Steel Works (KL) Bhd (Masteel) and KUB MALAYSIA BHD [] (KUB) have proposed to build and operate a 100km inter-city rail transit system in Iskandar Malaysia which will connect to the MRT line from Singapore.

The companies said in a joint statement on Wednesday, Jan 19, 2011, the project could cost over RM1 billion and consists of up to 25 commuter stations in major towns in the Iskandar Malaysia region in the initial stage.

"The operation of the inter-city rail transit shall be based on a 25-year concession," they said in the statement after the signing of the head of joint venture agreement to undertake the project.

Masteel and KUB would hold 60% and 40% equity stakes respectively in the JV company, Metropolitan Commuter Network Sdn Bhd. The project would be undertaken in three phases and completed within 24 months from project commencement.

The building of the rail transit infrastructure would also be funded by project financing under the public-private Partnership scheme (PPP).

Masteel managing director and chief executive officer Datuk Seri Tai Hean Leng said this would be a major infrastructure project in Johor as it would greatly boost its connectivity and economy.

"The upcoming inter-city rail transit is a reflection of Johor's continued progress thus far, and I believe that it would serve to bring the state to the next level of growth and vibrancy," he said.

The project will ease traffic congestion, estimated to grow at 4.2% every year along Johor and Singapore.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 02:20 PM   #86
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wow! tats reli a good news!!
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Old January 19th, 2011, 03:14 PM   #87
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I dun like the sound of this, public transport should be a social project for the people and not a profit gaining project. Private sector should not lead in transportation project at all. Iskandar Malaysia is not KL where the latter income is higher, how much can an ordinary citizen in JB area afford ?
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Old January 19th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #88
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JB Metro

Masteel, KUB To Jointly Run Inter-city Rail Transit System In Iskandar Malaysia

KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 19 (Bernama) -- Malaysia Steel Works (KL) Bhd (Masteel) and KUB Malaysia Bhd Wednesday signed a joint-venture agreement to jointly build and operate 100km inter-city rail transit system costing RM1.23 billion at Iskandar Malaysia in Johor.

The system will also be linked to the Mass Rapid Transit line in Singapore.

Masteel and KUB will hold 60 per cent and 40 per cent stakes, respectively, in the joint-venture company, Metropolitan Commuter Network Sdn Bhd.

The proposed inter-city rail transit will have up to 25 commuter stations in major towns in the Iskandar Malaysia economic corridor in the initial stage.

"We will use the existing Keretapi Tanah Melayu rail and will add four new stations in the growth areas along KTM's rail path," said Masteel managing director and chief executive officer Datuk Seri Tai Hean Leng.
(KTM will line will end at Kulai after this??????)

"We hope the agreement with the government will be completed within this year and we expect to fully operate at the end-2013," said Tai.

The project has two components: the "Build Transfer" of the rail transit infrastructure and the "Own Operate" of the inter-city train system.

"We are still having discussions to use the suitable electricity train coaches and we are looking at China and European countries," he said.

On the socio-economic front, Tai said this project would ease traffic congestion, estimated to grow at 4.2 per cent every year along Johor and Singapore.

About 70 per cent of the construction cost of the rail transit infrastructure would be funded under the Public-Private Partnership scheme.

"With this project, we will see constant recurring income and we will be the first private train operator in Malaysia," Tai added.

-- BERNAMA

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Old January 19th, 2011, 03:39 PM   #89
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well its a good news

hope it get approved
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i wish too...!!
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Old January 20th, 2011, 06:38 AM   #91
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Masteel, KUB To Jointly Run Inter-city Rail Transit System In Iskandar Malaysia

KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 19 (Bernama) -- Malaysia Steel Works (KL) Bhd (Masteel) and KUB Malaysia Bhd Wednesday signed a joint-venture agreement to jointly build and operate 100km inter-city rail transit system costing RM1.23 billion at Iskandar Malaysia in Johor.

The system will also be linked to the Mass Rapid Transit line in Singapore.

Masteel and KUB will hold 60 per cent and 40 per cent stakes, respectively, in the joint-venture company, Metropolitan Commuter Network Sdn Bhd.

The proposed inter-city rail transit will have up to 25 commuter stations in major towns in the Iskandar Malaysia economic corridor in the initial stage.

"We will use the existing Keretapi Tanah Melayu rail and will add four new stations in the growth areas along KTM's rail path," said Masteel managing director and chief executive officer Datuk Seri Tai Hean Leng.
(KTM will line will end at Kulai after this??????)

"We hope the agreement with the government will be completed within this year and we expect to fully operate at the end-2013," said Tai.

The project has two components: the "Build Transfer" of the rail transit infrastructure and the "Own Operate" of the inter-city train system.

"We are still having discussions to use the suitable electricity train coaches and we are looking at China and European countries," he said.

On the socio-economic front, Tai said this project would ease traffic congestion, estimated to grow at 4.2 per cent every year along Johor and Singapore.

About 70 per cent of the construction cost of the rail transit infrastructure would be funded under the Public-Private Partnership scheme.

"With this project, we will see constant recurring income and we will be the first private train operator in Malaysia," Tai added.

-- BERNAMA

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Sounds like they want to be paid by KTM to build the double tracking & electrification of the line from Nusajaya and/or Tanjung Pelapas to Pasir Gudang, and they are also interested in providing a "Komuter Selatan" service.

It's quite possible that the current KTMB president will be happy with the proposal as the cost of EDT and the Komuter Selatan service will not be borne by KTM...and KTM's intercity trains can still run on the rail.

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Is RM1.23 billion enough for a 100km double tracks, with 25 stations, and OHE, and signalling, ticketings and rolling stocks. Really now ?
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Is RM1.23 billion enough for a 100km double tracks, with 25 stations, and OHE, and signalling, ticketings and rolling stocks. Really now ?
probably not, but remember that the line is already single track with room for an additional track.

The line to Tanjung Pelapas was only built a few years ago and the right of way has capacity for a second track.

So we are talking about RM1.23 billion initally, for 100km of rail track plus OHE, 25 stations (eventually) and signalling and ticketing and rolling stock.

If everything is leased and amortized, the company gets there money now and taxpayers get to cover any overruns next generation.

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Thanks for sharing the good news... I am ecstatic and applaud with the news... My dream is getting closer...
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1.23 billions project for 100km transit system track? i find it quite cheap.
can someone explain this pls? im a bit comfused

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I think the catch here is using the current infrastructure of the KTM are going to be used. They are proposing doing a double tracking for the area and some additional infrastructure. It seems to be the case from the proposal stated in the article.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 04:19 PM   #97
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it reported in berita harian that

they are only upgrading from JBsentral to kempas baru and the pasir gudang and tg pelepas branch line

what bout the kempas baru to senai?
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Anybody knows how much did it cost to upgrade the Sentul - Batu Caves route ? Am curious here.
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Batu Caves-Sentul line 7.2km extension cost about 515mil..Cannot compare with this line because it was build with quality by YTL. Surely it will little bit expensive...my :2cents
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Batu Caves-Sentul line 7.2km extension cost about 515mil..Cannot compare with this line because it was build with quality by YTL. Surely it will little bit expensive...my :2cents
Sentul-Batu Caves was more complicated because the existing rail had to be shifted.

In this case, the Pasir Gudang - Kempas and Kempas - Tg. Pelepas lines were rebuilt with room for a second rail line if necessary.

So basically, they are just laying a single track and stringing OHE.

Im confident that the number is for the "initial" phase and they are lowballing the costs.

Have to see more data and reports first - but overall the idea is pretty sound.

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