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Old February 5th, 2010, 06:17 PM   #1
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The Tallest Vision Ever

Has anyone heard of the X-Seed 4000?

It's like the tallest vision supertall in the world!
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The space elevator, 100.000 km tall:





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Old February 5th, 2010, 06:36 PM   #3
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OH MY GOD

I have to give you props for that!

That's rediculous!
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Old February 5th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #4
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This is noncense... No one will ever build it and there is no reason for it.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 07:33 PM   #5
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This is noncense... No one will ever build it and there is no reason for it.
The Space Elevator, or X-Seed? There are very good reasons for building a space elevator - like a ten thousand-fold reduction in the costs of getting people into orbit.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 09:15 PM   #6
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and very good reason for not building, such as the leathal radiation that shuttles pass thorugh quickly, yet an elevator would pass through slowly!
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Old February 6th, 2010, 01:37 AM   #7
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i think the tallest is the DUBAI CITY TOWER 2400 mts



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Old February 6th, 2010, 04:01 PM   #8
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Lol I was just about to post that. I agree Dubai has to be with the tallest proposal.

About the "space elevator": I am usually an optimist about the capabilities of man, but that project is simply impossible and unfeasible.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 09:36 PM   #9
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In the past, the sky was absolutely the limit and many hyperbuildings and ultratalls were proposed. Tokyo was one of the leading cities of proposing mega structures which were never built, for example these buildings:

X-Seed 4000, 4 km(!) and 800 floors:

- This is the tallest building ever envisioned, at 4000 meters high with 800 floors.





TRY 2004, 2004 m:





Aeropolis, 2001 m and 500 floors:



M.O.T.H.E.R., 1321 m and 220 floors:



Hyper Building, 1000 m:

- With services to house up to 100,000 people, the Hyper Building is a city unto itself. Resources are recycled to reduce the impact on the environment.



Sky City 1000, 1000m and 196 floors:

- With a height of 1,000 meters and a total floor area of 800 hectares, SKY CITY 1000 is a superhigh-rise city comprising 14 concave dish-shaped, aerial bases called, "Space Plateaus" stacked one upon the other.
- Residences, offices, commercial facilities, schools, theaters and so forth are organically located in these spaces.
- 35,000 people will reside here, and 100,000 people will work here.
- Since the announcement of this concept in 1989, it has attracted attention throughout the world, and on the threshold of the next millennium, there are increasing expectations for its realization.
- Fire simulations are being examined to estimate the threat to the 35,000 residents.
- Triple decker high speed elevators, which will hold up to 70 people, are now being designed at experimental labs outside of Tokyo.
- Each Space Plateau will have its own train circumnavigating the plateau.
- Tokyo's only Fire Helicopter is now being used in exercise drills to test the ability to fight fires in such a tall structure.







The Spiral, 1000 m and 200 floors:

- One of many hyperproject proposals that Tokyo is considering as a solution to everlasting urban congestion.
- This building would recycle some 90% of its waste internally thus being a very clean and ecologically sustainable building in the long run.

picture: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=103141

Seiren 21, 930 m and 180 floors:



Dynamic Intelligent Building, 800 m, 200 floors:



Millenium Tower, 840 m and 180 floors:

- Developed in response to the hurricane-strength wind forces and earthquakes for which the region is notorious, the tower's conical structure, with its helical steel cage, is inherently stable.
- Rising out of Tokyo Bay, two kilometres offshore, the tower is capable of housing a community of up to 60,000 people, generating its own energy and processing its own waste.
- With its own transportation system, this vertical city quarter would be self-sustaining and virtually self-sufficient.
- The lower levels accommodate offices, light manufacturing and 'clean' industries such as consumer electronics. Above are apartments, while the topmost section houses communications systems and wind and solar generators, interspersed with restaurants and viewing platforms to exploit the spectacular views.





Holonic Tower, 600 m and 120 floors:

- Holonic Tower is a supermultifacility building in which the concept of "holon" is used not only in design and construction, but is also carried through as far as the variety of systems for operation.
- Furthermore, this tower does not have all of its spaces filled up with facilities, but instead has a multilevel structure incorporating voids. Through these voids, air and light flow into the building in abundance, providing an attractive living space where people can enjoy a dramatic experience by looking at it or living in it.





Shimizu Super High Rise, 550 m:

http://www.elevator-world.com/magazi...1-003.html-ssi

- Designed to demonstrate the feasibility of building such a tall habitable structure in an area vulnerable to strong earthquakes and typhoons.
- The design called for a tower in 3 even parts, divided by sloped setbacks. The plan was an 8-pointed star with X-braces at the corners on the lower two-thirds.
- The crowning feature of the design was a large heliport, supported by a trussed structure at the tower's peak.



Most of the pictures here are coming from: http://www.hokuriku-shinbun.com/hokuriku/kensetu/mirai/
And the most of the information is coming from Emporis.

And a few more visions:

Rank Name City Country Feet Meters Floors Year/Uses Architect(s)

4 KM(!):

X-Seed 4000 Tokyo Japan 13129 4000 800 Multiple

1000 - 2100 M:

Hexahedron City Scottsdale United States 6892 2100 200 Paolo Soleri
Try 2004 Tokyo Japan 6577 2004 400 Multiple
Aeropolis 2001 Tokyo Japan 6565 2001 500 Multiple
Houston Pinnacle Houston United States 5284 1610 500 Skidmore, Owings & Merrill
Illinois Mile High Tower Chicago United States 5280 1609 528 Multiple Frank Lloyd Wright
The City Pyramid Singapore Singapore 4923 1500
Mother Tokyo Japan 4334 1321 220 Multiple
Bionic Tower Hong Kong China 3702 1128 300 Residential Pioz, Cevelra, Celaya
Super Pyramid Japan 3282 1000 195
Sky City 1000 Tokyo Japan 3282 1000 196 Multiple
Europa Tower Brussels Belgium 3282 1000 L-35 Arquitectos

800 - 1000 M:

M Tower Shanghai China 2954 900 Sir Norman Foster
Kinetic Tower Chicago United States 2921 890 Multiple
Seiren 21 Konoike Japan 2888 880 180 Multiple
Erewhon Center Chicago United States 2823 860 207 William J. LeMessurier
Millennium Tower Tokyo Japan 2757 840 180 2009 Multiple Sir Norman Foster
Dynamic Intelligent Bldg. Tokyo Japan 2626 800 200 Multiple
Aquarius Tokyo Japan 2626 800 200
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Old February 7th, 2010, 03:06 AM   #10
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I've heard about X-Seed 4000 at my english class.
It looks like mt. fuji
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Old February 8th, 2010, 07:19 PM   #11
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In the past, the sky was absolutely the limit and many hyperbuildings and ultratalls were proposed. Tokyo was one of the leading cities of proposing mega structures which were never built, for example these buildings:

X-Seed 4000, 4 km(!) and 800 floors:

- This is the tallest building ever envisioned, at 4000 meters high with 800 floors.





TRY 2004, 2004 m:





Aeropolis, 2001 m and 500 floors:



M.O.T.H.E.R., 1321 m and 220 floors:



Hyper Building, 1000 m:

- With services to house up to 100,000 people, the Hyper Building is a city unto itself. Resources are recycled to reduce the impact on the environment.



Sky City 1000, 1000m and 196 floors:

- With a height of 1,000 meters and a total floor area of 800 hectares, SKY CITY 1000 is a superhigh-rise city comprising 14 concave dish-shaped, aerial bases called, "Space Plateaus" stacked one upon the other.
- Residences, offices, commercial facilities, schools, theaters and so forth are organically located in these spaces.
- 35,000 people will reside here, and 100,000 people will work here.
- Since the announcement of this concept in 1989, it has attracted attention throughout the world, and on the threshold of the next millennium, there are increasing expectations for its realization.
- Fire simulations are being examined to estimate the threat to the 35,000 residents.
- Triple decker high speed elevators, which will hold up to 70 people, are now being designed at experimental labs outside of Tokyo.
- Each Space Plateau will have its own train circumnavigating the plateau.
- Tokyo's only Fire Helicopter is now being used in exercise drills to test the ability to fight fires in such a tall structure.







The Spiral, 1000 m and 200 floors:

- One of many hyperproject proposals that Tokyo is considering as a solution to everlasting urban congestion.
- This building would recycle some 90% of its waste internally thus being a very clean and ecologically sustainable building in the long run.

picture: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=103141

Seiren 21, 930 m and 180 floors:



Dynamic Intelligent Building, 800 m, 200 floors:



Millenium Tower, 840 m and 180 floors:

- Developed in response to the hurricane-strength wind forces and earthquakes for which the region is notorious, the tower's conical structure, with its helical steel cage, is inherently stable.
- Rising out of Tokyo Bay, two kilometres offshore, the tower is capable of housing a community of up to 60,000 people, generating its own energy and processing its own waste.
- With its own transportation system, this vertical city quarter would be self-sustaining and virtually self-sufficient.
- The lower levels accommodate offices, light manufacturing and 'clean' industries such as consumer electronics. Above are apartments, while the topmost section houses communications systems and wind and solar generators, interspersed with restaurants and viewing platforms to exploit the spectacular views.





Holonic Tower, 600 m and 120 floors:

- Holonic Tower is a supermultifacility building in which the concept of "holon" is used not only in design and construction, but is also carried through as far as the variety of systems for operation.
- Furthermore, this tower does not have all of its spaces filled up with facilities, but instead has a multilevel structure incorporating voids. Through these voids, air and light flow into the building in abundance, providing an attractive living space where people can enjoy a dramatic experience by looking at it or living in it.





Shimizu Super High Rise, 550 m:

http://www.elevator-world.com/magazi...1-003.html-ssi

- Designed to demonstrate the feasibility of building such a tall habitable structure in an area vulnerable to strong earthquakes and typhoons.
- The design called for a tower in 3 even parts, divided by sloped setbacks. The plan was an 8-pointed star with X-braces at the corners on the lower two-thirds.
- The crowning feature of the design was a large heliport, supported by a trussed structure at the tower's peak.



Most of the pictures here are coming from: http://www.hokuriku-shinbun.com/hokuriku/kensetu/mirai/
And the most of the information is coming from Emporis.

And a few more visions:

Rank Name City Country Feet Meters Floors Year/Uses Architect(s)

4 KM(!):

X-Seed 4000 Tokyo Japan 13129 4000 800 Multiple

1000 - 2100 M:

Hexahedron City Scottsdale United States 6892 2100 200 Paolo Soleri
Try 2004 Tokyo Japan 6577 2004 400 Multiple
Aeropolis 2001 Tokyo Japan 6565 2001 500 Multiple
Houston Pinnacle Houston United States 5284 1610 500 Skidmore, Owings & Merrill
Illinois Mile High Tower Chicago United States 5280 1609 528 Multiple Frank Lloyd Wright
The City Pyramid Singapore Singapore 4923 1500
Mother Tokyo Japan 4334 1321 220 Multiple
Bionic Tower Hong Kong China 3702 1128 300 Residential Pioz, Cevelra, Celaya
Super Pyramid Japan 3282 1000 195
Sky City 1000 Tokyo Japan 3282 1000 196 Multiple
Europa Tower Brussels Belgium 3282 1000 L-35 Arquitectos

800 - 1000 M:

M Tower Shanghai China 2954 900 Sir Norman Foster
Kinetic Tower Chicago United States 2921 890 Multiple
Seiren 21 Konoike Japan 2888 880 180 Multiple
Erewhon Center Chicago United States 2823 860 207 William J. LeMessurier
Millennium Tower Tokyo Japan 2757 840 180 2009 Multiple Sir Norman Foster
Dynamic Intelligent Bldg. Tokyo Japan 2626 800 200 Multiple
Aquarius Tokyo Japan 2626 800 200
You certainley do your reasearch, don't you?
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Old February 11th, 2010, 09:27 AM   #12
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and very good reason for not building, such as the leathal radiation that shuttles pass thorugh quickly, yet an elevator would pass through slowly!
I think that would be the least of their problems, and a space elevator would be able to have better shielding than a space shuttle anyway.
a space elevator will be built eventually, but not for a few (or a few hundred) years.

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About the "space elevator": I am usually an optimist about the capabilities of man, but that project is simply impossible and unfeasible.
In the 19th century, that's what they said about humans landing on the Moon.

We already have simple carbon nanotubes. It's just a case of making them stronger (another 20-30 years of research) and capable of linking to become thousands of miles long. After that, we'll need a way to suspend the structure in orbit and fit the rest of the components together (another 30-50 years after that?), plus a few decades to negotiate the location on the ground, safety and security issues between countries in case of accident, etc.

I don't see what's "impossible" or "unfeasible" about it. The initial costs might be high - but it could become an international effort (like the space station), with nations sharing the cost. And besides, the long term benefits in terms of reduced launch costs would be absolutely enormous.
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and very good reason for not building, such as the leathal radiation that shuttles pass thorugh quickly, yet an elevator would pass through slowly!
I doubt that would be an issue. New materials will be invented by then (probably based on nanotechnology), capable of reducing the effects of radiation.
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plus is the space elevator gets built in a centry or so, AI would play a big part in constructing it
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About the Space Elevator... I don't think is would withstand the wind forces. If you watched the show about Exstiopia in the Shanghai ( I don't know how to spell the Exstiopia right, but it's something like that) it would be the tallest building in the world. It would be like an town, where you can build the house in that building. Because of it's hight, same as Shanghai WFC with it's hole at the top, there must be some openings through the buildings so it wouldn't shake so much. This Space Elevator is too thin and it will fall from the wind... NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! xD
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i dont no, where talking at least a century before the space elevator would even be considered to be built so you never no what kind of technology will around at that time to make it happen
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Of all these wacky visions, I like Aeropolis 2001 the best, followed by the Dubai City Tower. Has anyone heard of the Ultima Tower? It is UGLY!
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I like the idea of the space elevator AND X-seed 4000. I hope they BOTH get built, and when/if they do, I'd like to see them in person.
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I hear something about the Tokyo Tower Of Babel a 10Km tall tower:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=197740
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