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Old January 28th, 2014, 10:11 AM   #1061
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First to you, Saxonia: You´re right, I didn´t mean to step on any Saxon toes, so I´ll edit my post accordingly.

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Being an art historian I would, however, appreciate more distinction between authentic medieval and 19th century "neo", which are happily mixed and mixed up in here, and also between castles and palaces.
I´m not an expert, but I have generalized my experiences thus: A "fort" is a purel defensive structure (a military but no residential function); a "castle" has a residential function but with need of fortification; lastly, a "palace" is exclusively residential/representational with no need of fortification of the main buildings. If someone will correct me, I´d be interested to learn.

Blandine Forberg: I posted two lists about authentic and non-euthentic medievalism above on this thread (page 53).

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Old January 28th, 2014, 01:48 PM   #1062
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Old January 28th, 2014, 05:10 PM   #1063
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and also between castles and palaces.
There might be a bit of a translation problem involved as well. Germans for example use the term "Schloss" for both Windsor Castle and the Palace of Versailles, as well as for smaller things like country houses etc.
Similarly what the English call "castle" the Germans might call variously "Burg" or "Schloss".
Generally English "fort" maps to German "Festung" 1 to 1 though.
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Old January 28th, 2014, 08:00 PM   #1064
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Yes it's kinda difficult. The term Schloss (or Schloß) implicates a residential character in german. Whereas a Burg (Castle) stands for a defensive function but not exclusively like a Festung (Fortress). Many Burgen (castles) lost there controle function over it's surrounding area at the end of middle ages. So they often were converted in to residential buildings (Schloss) by their owners. The Albrechtsburg in Meißen for example, is considered to be the first Burg in Germany which was converted to a Schloss at the and of 15th century.
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Old January 28th, 2014, 08:52 PM   #1065
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:14 PM   #1066
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ALBRECHTSBURG; SAXONY; GERMANY

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Yes it's kinda difficult. The term Schloss (or Schloß) implicates a residential character in german. Whereas a Burg (Castle) stands for a defensive function but not exclusively like a Festung (Fortress). Many Burgen (castles) lost there controle function over it's surrounding area at the end of middle ages. So they often were converted in to residential buildings (Schloss) by their owners. The Albrechtsburg in Meißen for example, is considered to be the first Burg in Germany which was converted to a Schloss at the and of 15th century.
Saxonia, I take the freedom of illustrating your Point:


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Old January 29th, 2014, 08:34 PM   #1067
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SCHLOSS QUEDLINBURG; HARZ REGION; GERMANY

Below, I post a self-taken Picture Series, for a Change.

Quedlinburg Castle is a medieval Castle in the town of Quedlinburg.
Among other things, it served as a part-residence for the early Emperors of the "holy Roman empire".
It lies few Kilometers North of the Harz mountains.
The town itself is one of the best kept historical towns in Germany.
It avoided destruction in WWII (whereas the neighbouring town Halberstadt was shattered to pieces because their Mayor refused to surrender).
The town has underwent an extensive renovation since the fall of the wall.





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Old February 1st, 2014, 01:37 PM   #1068
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Het Arendsslot - 's-Heer Arendskerke, Netherlands - built in 2009.














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Old February 3rd, 2014, 11:41 PM   #1069
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Old February 4th, 2014, 03:50 PM   #1070
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Chojnik Castle - Silesia, Poland



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The building of the fortress dates back to the times of the Silesian Piasts and for most of its time was in the possession of the Schaffgotsch noble family. Today the semi-ruined stronghold is a major tourist attraction and houses a hotel and a restaurant.
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Old February 9th, 2014, 11:10 PM   #1071
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Hubertusburg, Saxony, Germany
a palace (German "Jagdschloss" = hunting lodge) built in 1721-1724 during the reign of Frederick Augustus I, King of Poland, Elector of Saxony


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Old February 9th, 2014, 11:22 PM   #1072
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Blandine Forberg: I posted two lists about authentic and non-euthentic medievalism above on this thread (page 53).

You may want to read about the building history of Braunfels and Wartburg again, which you counted as authentic medieval although both were in major parts redesigned in the 19th century, as is clearly visible from their facades...
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Old February 9th, 2014, 11:36 PM   #1073
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Palazzo Farnese in Caprarola, Italy

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Old February 10th, 2014, 05:13 PM   #1074
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You may want to read about the building history of Braunfels and Wartburg again, which you counted as authentic medieval although both were in major parts redesigned in the 19th century, as is clearly visible from their facades...
......which I in fact also mentioned, if your read my comments over again! Unfortunately, however, there are no photos from when the Castles were "purely medieval".

My criterion for authentic medieval castles was to exclude complexes constructed from scratch much later (such as the Neuschwanstein).

Off course, one can always be more explicit, but this is no scientific forum. My lists were also relatively randomly composed, as another possible criticism. At any rate, I guess anyone trying to deny that Braunfels and Wartburg are medieval castles will have the more difficult task (compared to someone claiming they are medieval castles).

Why don´t you bring something from your own reportoire Blandine? With your well developed critical sense and apparent knowledge your contributions could probably interest more of us.

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