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Old November 18th, 2014, 09:33 PM   #221
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I don't get that what skoda logo is doing on SOLARIS trolleybus?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 08:43 AM   #222
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Maybe I'm mistaken but as far as I know Škoda Electric is Solaris’s Czech partner.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 10:31 AM   #223
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I don't get that what skoda logo is doing on SOLARIS trolleybus?
It's Škoda 27Tr:
http://www.skoda.cz/en/products/trol...27-tr-solaris/

All technology is from Škoda, just the body is from Solaris.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 03:12 PM   #224
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..Just the body.. You so funny...(just)
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Old November 19th, 2014, 09:05 PM   #225
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..Just the body.. You so funny...(just)
Why? It's just the same as saying for a diesel bus, e.g. this is a Volvo bus with body by Solaris. So this is a Skoda bus with body by Solaris. Both manufacturers can take credit.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 09:38 PM   #226
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Usually it is opposite. Engine or in this case electric cables with batteries is put in different company's body and car or trolleybus is named after body not after its engine... It is a very common case among cars manufacturers and not only, smartphones, computers, tv... etc. Nobody cares to mention that in Sony tv is LG screen or in iPhone is Samsung inset or in Renault is Nissan engine unless you are very interested in it.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 10:10 PM   #227
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Trolleybuses aren't consumer products, so the rules are a bit different here.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #228
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I don't get that what skoda logo is doing on SOLARIS trolleybus?
Solaris don't make trolleybuses, Skoda do. So why is Solaris logo on the front of a trolleybus? (jks)

If you want to be complicated ask who made the chassis.

Seriously, the bus is actually assembled at Skoda Electric factory in Plzen, Czech Republic. The body is a supplied "component" in the production process.
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It must be some kind of strange agreement involved here - licensing alike, I reckon.
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Just an agreement between two manufacturers. Except that a trolleybus is more complicated, it's not so different from putting a Solaris body on a e.g. Mercedes or Volvo chassis and engine. As I said, you can give credit to both manufacturers. Which is why both have their logo on the front of the bus.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 02:33 PM   #231
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To screw your minds even more - Solaris Trollino trolleybuses (which are also in Riga) have Solaris all over them, but they are also made in cooperation between Solaris and Škoda.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 08:24 PM   #232
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Tram line 6 continues breaking records!
In October it was the first public transport line in, what feels like forever, to break the 900 000 people per month mark! It transported 932 634 people! Maybe next October it will break the million mark?


When the new trams were introduced in 2010, the passenger numbers on line 6 grew considerably. In 2012-2013 part of the line was reconstructed and in the center it was extended by 2 stops. Passenger numbers have skyrocketed ever since.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:52 PM   #233
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To screw your minds even more - Solaris Trollino trolleybuses (which are also in Riga) have Solaris all over them, but they are also made in cooperation between Solaris and Škoda.
Skoda (which also owns Hungarian Ganz) is the biggest trolleybus manufacturer in Europe, so it can be found in a number of bodies. Other major examples are SOR and Iveco. But the final assembly as a trolleybus is in Plzen.

It basically depends on what the customer wants and of course both Skoda and the bus manufacturer in their marketing can claim credit. On the other hand, trolleybus equipment from other manufacturers (e.g. Cegelec) can also be found using the same bodies.
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So trolleybuses are like Laima branded ice cream. It's actually made in Rūjiena ice cream factory, but they don't put the Rūjiena brand on it. Same as they don't put the brand of the cream in it.
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Some photos inside the "ice cream factory" in Plzen here:

http://www.***********.co.uk/detail/...hoto/182582068

Scroll the photo bar at bottom. The trolleybus factory is actually in a different suburb from the tram and train factory. Trolleybuses are a big business. They have hundreds of orders and are producing, iirc, more than one a day on 24 hour production. They are also producing electric or battery/hybrid buses here.
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Riga will get the 14`000th trolleybus made by Škoda Electric
Source: http://skoda.cz/cs/press-room/archiv...000-trolejbus/
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Riga will get the 14`000th trolleybus made by Škoda Electric
Source: http://skoda.cz/cs/press-room/archiv...000-trolejbus/
This now exceeds the production record of the Tatra T3 tram.


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Just to clear one thing it's 14`000 trolleybuses (all models) made by Škoda Electric since they were founded and not 14`000 trolleybuses of a certain model.
(Well that's at least how I understand that with Google translate)
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Just to clear one thing it's 14`000 trolleybuses (all models) made by Škoda Electric since they were founded and not 14`000 trolleybuses of a certain model.
(Well that's at least how I understand that with Google translate)
Yes you're right. The T3 was one particular tram model. It's 14,000 trolleybuses since 1936, but most of them in more recent times.
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So the Tatra myth as expected lives on and will continue to live. In those days with a closed market made only for communist countries it was easy to sell a specific product in such great numbers because there were many buyers. And as far as I am concerned it was and still is a great tram. A classic.
Nowadays with such a great number of companies that produce trams and with all the competition that leads to the creation on new tram models more efficient than previous ones, it is hard to believe that the T3 record will ever be beaten.
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