Maribyrnong Defence Site

[affordablemelbourne]

http://news.sbs.com.au/insight/episo...67#watchonline

[affordablemelbourne]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/hi...0315-q9n5.html

[affordablemelbourne]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/st...0318-qicn.html

[Dark_matter]

All good and well intentioned but the NIMBY and derelict brick wall club will jump in and do the damage.

They attempted to "save" Brunswicks heritage (like it had any) by saving almost all of the old factory walls as the new apartments were built. Now the place looks like a POS.

1 yes ok

All of them? Beyond reason. There could have been nice landscaped streets built for people but instead we have old brick walls braced with heavy I beams and the crappy graffitied service entry gate. It looks as gloomy now as it did back in 1920 when it was built.

Camberwell is pushing for its tower to be rejected, seems ol possum Humpfries is going to jump up and down because someone will be able to see his tennis court from the railway line.

Its already going to court.
Melbourne has no chance if a busy shopping strip that already has several modern buildings cannot reconfigure its railway into something more useful.

[Dockside]

We need to create a pro-development group to stand up to the noisy nimby nanna's.
A group that will challange the lies and cries of the nimby, we cant be the only people that dont want to see Melbs held ransom by a totally selfish breed of person.
From 'over population' to 'over development' we are being assulted from all directions from the 'anti-this' and 'anti-that' crowd, inflamed by a self-serving media and attention seeking politicians cashing in just to gain a profile. Cant we muster our combined passion for our city so once and for all we can expose these nimbys for what they really stand for ?? We need to halt this madness before its too late.........

[ooh]

Originally Posted by Dockside

We need to create a pro-development group to stand up to the noisy nimby nanna's.
A group that will challange the lies and cries of the nimby, we cant be the only people that dont want to see Melbs held ransom by a totally selfish breed of person.
From 'over population' to 'over development' we are being assulted from all directions from the 'anti-this' and 'anti-that' crowd, inflamed by a self-serving media and attention seeking politicians cashing in just to gain a profile. Cant we muster our combined passion for our city so once and for all we can expose these nimbys for what they really stand for ?? We need to halt this madness before its too late.........

I'd agree completely and would 110% behind setting something up. You are right, there are lots of people away from our forums that have the same thoughts.

We need to do something and quick to try and form some opposition and reason to the frequently ridiculous outcries and complaints from NIMBY minorities.

[Dockside]

Were to begin and money seem to be the biggest hurdles to overcome at 1st.
But something needs to be done to bring these clowns to heel, im sick to death at reading the increasing amount of nimby issues being supported in the media, all one sided with only 1 option, No Development Anywhere Anymore in Melbourne

[jgalt]

Originally Posted by ooh

I'd agree completely and would 110% behind setting something up. You are right, there are lots of people away from our forums that have the same thoughts.

We need to do something and quick to try and form some opposition and reason to the frequently ridiculous outcries and complaints from NIMBY minorities.

Just as NIMBYs make objections to projects, we need people to write to the council to COMMEND projects. It doesn't need to be a formal group, they are too easy to attack from the NIMBYs- individuals quietly writing in support of planning applications will be quite effective to start with I think.

[affordablemelbourne]

http://www.minterellison.com/public/...ucture2010.pdf

[kichigai]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...-1225870282936

Housing site is toxic

MORE than 120 chemicals, many of them known carcinogens, were used at a former Defence site to be developed for housing.

About 3000 homes will be built on the former Maribyrnong munitions factory site that produced bombs and high explosives for almost 100 years.

The full list of toxins has been disclosed for the first time in Federal Parliament.

They include trichloroethylene, a carcinogen that can cause birth defects; tetrachloromethane, which causes liver damage; benzene, a cancer-causing toxin that interferes with the central nervous system; and analine, which is believed to cause genetic mutation and can be absorbed through the skin.

The 128ha site less than 10km from the city will be developed by State Government land agency VicUrban after a clean-up by the Department of Defence. But Defence is is yet to say how it will be decontaminated or what it will do with the toxic soil.

Defence still owns the land and a price is yet to be set for the handover to the State Government.

The inventory of chemicals used at the site was provided to Parliament by Defence Minister John Faulkner.

"The project is in the process of determining the nature and extent of the contamination of the site and is developing remediation strategies," Senator Faulkner said. A spokeswoman for State Planning Minister Justin Madden said the transfer of the land would not proceed unless it was fit for habitation.

"The Victorian Government has a clear agreement with the Federal Government that the site will be fully cleaned up prior to its handover," she said.

"VicUrban will only develop the site once it has been cleaned to the satisfaction of the EPA."

Toxic waste campaigner Harry Van Moorst said a lot of work had to be done before the site could be considered for human habitation.

"A lot of the chemicals in there are quite dangerous," he said. "It's a question of the quantities. There's quite a few that are serious carcinogens, some are mutagens - which can cause birth defects - and there's some serious heavy metals."

The federal Member for Maribyrnong, Bill Shorten, said the site offered great opportunities for the area.

"We will get this right, but we'll be watching it very carefully. I'm not interested in anything being rushed and corners cut. Let's just make sure this is done properly," he said.

[affordablemelbourne]

expressions of interest:

http://www.affordability.com.au/cs/S...2FSplashLayout

http://www.affordability.com.au/cs/S...rnongREOI2.pdf

http://maribyrnong-leader.whereilive...site-on-track/

[John_Proctor]

time is our firend with this one... I genuinely hope this gets delayed until about 2020 with the contaminated land issue as by then we'll be able to go much more dense.

[BleakCity]

That place is chock full of asbestos too IIRC.

[affordablemelbourne]

Tender tours on soon.

http://maribyrnong-leader.whereilive...nong-memorial/

[affordablemelbourne]

An alternative proposal street view.
What do your think?

[Mandelbrot]

I think they should sack their Graphic Designer for passing that off as a street view.. Surely a professional graphic designer wasn't responsible for that?!?!

[Grollo]

Looks like all the residents in that estate will be trippin pretty hard.

[ooh]

Reckon it must be a joke.

Looks like a piece of rather poor art you might see flogged at Rose St Markets off Brunswick St.

[affordablemelbourne]

Yes I agree it's in the bent "domain"
But it could be the way we'll live...
Is the feeling/impression so last year? What is the future?
Could you count part of these streets as open space?
I think there intention is car registration from $1.70 a day and insurance from $.50 a day and 200 k/m on the Hume Highway or 5k/m on City Link when the traffic is bad.

[tuanhung]

Originally Posted by affordablemelbourne

The main aim is to be able to buy a house and land for 200-300k including stamp duty if that is possible (1800 of them)
Land costs at other Vic Urban sites are around 500 dollars a metre sq? What do you think this site is worth?
Building costs a minimum of 700 a sq. metre but with a smaller house costs increase.
Lets see.

have u seen the riverbend or is it rivervalley estate in maribynong just upthe road from that river of duke street? land in there is going around 300k a pot...and you think u can buy H+L package for 200-300k on that new site? hahahahahaahah

imo 3 story houses or tubehouses on small block of land should be allowed!!!