Project Skylines | Canary Wharf | 50fl | 40fl - Page 3

london lad · February 15th, 2010, 05:17 PM

Tallest is 163.2m AGL so will pull the cluster over to the East surpassing Pan P in height.

***gothicform*** · February 15th, 2010, 05:21 PM

what's most interesting is that this is seen as the first phase of the redevelopment of cubitt town. you have various other towers, albeit it lower heights, that will also be revealed for the area in due course. let's hope it doesn't end up millennium quarter mark 2.

london lad · February 15th, 2010, 05:53 PM

That would include the large ASDA redevelopment with its 30fl block as part of it I presume . It seems to have been stuck in pre-planning hell for years now. I'm guessing its not going to be off the highest quality.

From Crossharbour downwards could also do with being redeveloped as well. 80's red brick builds don't quite stand the test of time.

***gothicform*** · February 15th, 2010, 07:36 PM

yeah, god knows what is happening with ASDA. got fed up following it as it's just a long running mess of a development. and then you have angel house on the other side of the road acting there as the other part of the gateway... we won't be seeing that any time soon i think.

DarJoLe · February 15th, 2010, 11:41 PM

I quite like how they echo a bit of De Stijl in the colours.

Cacereño · February 16th, 2010, 12:59 AM

I don't like those buildings, they seem so eastern europe buildings. I think Canary Wharf needs more tall buildings, but with a classic style, or an elegant touch, like in Manhattan.

tekken68 · February 16th, 2010, 02:01 AM

Thanks for the input, really appreciated. Maybe check back here in 7-8 years...

Unbelievable Tekkers · February 16th, 2010, 02:19 PM

Personally I'm all for it- it modernises the grey/silver backdrop.
They've allowed for public open space on the site which is a rarity.
I like the whole Dubaiesque feel to it- and the massing works well with the local tall buildings!

Trances · February 16th, 2010, 04:06 PM

What the red part is real. I just assumed it was rending error.

JackF · February 17th, 2010, 02:49 PM

Its terracotta. I spoke with the architects and it won't be that bright.

london lad · February 17th, 2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JackF

Its terracotta. I spoke with the architects and it won't be that bright.

Find anything else worth telling?
Did they say whether this would be phased and any idea when they would start it?

They don't look like big developers so I don't hold out hope they will develop this anytime soon.

shenqie · February 17th, 2010, 04:37 PM

The red/terracotta walls would look better with some windows. They'd be approx South facing and give that premium view over Greenwich. It'd be a waste as it is ...

potto · February 17th, 2010, 06:31 PM

Hmmm I would much prefer a striking contemporary Red that would add something different to the cluster. I fear that terracotta could end up fusing with so much of the rather (sub) standard build around this area and therefore become too anonymous despite its size, instead of helping to create a much needed signature.

potto · February 17th, 2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shenqie

The red/terracotta walls would look better with some windows. They'd be approx South facing and give that premium view over Greenwich. It'd be a waste as it is ...

good point. Maybe they are anticipating something else in the way of the view? Is Wood Wharf due to sit in this location?

london lad · February 17th, 2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by potto

good point. Maybe they are anticipating something else in the way of the view? Is Wood Wharf due to sit in this location?

WW is to the North. There should be nothing of this height to the south so it is a little strange this is a blank wall.

gazzab1990 · February 17th, 2010, 09:40 PM

Looks like it's gonna be those awful brick-shaped terracotta tiles if the renders are anything to go by. They're bad enough on a small scale, let alone on a 100m+ blank wall

Cat man do · February 18th, 2010, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gazzab1990

Looks like it's gonna be those awful brick-shaped terracotta tiles if the renders are anything to go by. They're bad enough on a small scale, let alone on a 100m+ blank wall

You haven't seen the giant gnome round the other side!

Newcastle Guy · February 18th, 2010, 02:09 AM

Going by what London Lad said, the AGLs should be 163m and 137m for Tower 2. 163m is a good height, it's the first building in the Wharf in the 160m-170m range. I hope the designs evolve though.

Team Brian GB · February 18th, 2010, 08:42 PM

Everytime I don't log on for a week or two something substantive comes along, I like this project immensely.

Tazac · February 19th, 2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicform

what's most interesting is that this is seen as the first phase of the redevelopment of cubitt town. you have various other towers, albeit it lower heights, that will also be revealed for the area in due course. let's hope it doesn't end up millennium quarter mark 2.

I'm guessing my home is going to be demolished

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February 15th, 2010, 05:17 PM	#41
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,156 Likes (Received): 45	Tallest is 163.2m AGL so will pull the cluster over to the East surpassing Pan P in height.

February 15th, 2010, 05:21 PM	#42
*gothicform* Bossman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: not london Posts: 29,232 Likes (Received): 504	what's most interesting is that this is seen as the first phase of the redevelopment of cubitt town. you have various other towers, albeit it lower heights, that will also be revealed for the area in due course. let's hope it doesn't end up millennium quarter mark 2.

February 15th, 2010, 05:53 PM	#43
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,156 Likes (Received): 45	That would include the large ASDA redevelopment with its 30fl block as part of it I presume . It seems to have been stuck in pre-planning hell for years now. I'm guessing its not going to be off the highest quality. From Crossharbour downwards could also do with being redeveloped as well. 80's red brick builds don't quite stand the test of time.

February 15th, 2010, 07:36 PM	#44
*gothicform* Bossman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: not london Posts: 29,232 Likes (Received): 504	yeah, god knows what is happening with ASDA. got fed up following it as it's just a long running mess of a development. and then you have angel house on the other side of the road acting there as the other part of the gateway... we won't be seeing that any time soon i think.

February 16th, 2010, 12:59 AM	#46
Cacereño Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,881 Likes (Received): 16	I don't like those buildings, they seem so eastern europe buildings. I think Canary Wharf needs more tall buildings, but with a classic style, or an elegant touch, like in Manhattan.

February 16th, 2010, 02:01 AM	#47
tekken68 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 29 Likes (Received): 0	Thanks for the input, really appreciated. Maybe check back here in 7-8 years...

February 16th, 2010, 02:19 PM	#48
Unbelievable Tekkers Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1 Likes (Received): 0	Personally I'm all for it- it modernises the grey/silver backdrop. They've allowed for public open space on the site which is a rarity. I like the whole Dubaiesque feel to it- and the massing works well with the local tall buildings!

February 17th, 2010, 04:37 PM	#52
shenqie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 103 Likes (Received): 0	The red/terracotta walls would look better with some windows. They'd be approx South facing and give that premium view over Greenwich. It'd be a waste as it is ...

February 17th, 2010, 06:31 PM	#53
potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,515 Likes (Received): 258	Hmmm I would much prefer a striking contemporary Red that would add something different to the cluster. I fear that terracotta could end up fusing with so much of the rather (sub) standard build around this area and therefore become too anonymous despite its size, instead of helping to create a much needed signature.

February 17th, 2010, 09:40 PM	#56
gazzab1990 SPAMMED Join Date: May 2007 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 2,224 Likes (Received): 2	Looks like it's gonna be those awful brick-shaped terracotta tiles if the renders are anything to go by. They're bad enough on a small scale, let alone on a 100m+ blank wall

February 18th, 2010, 02:09 AM	#58
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	Going by what London Lad said, the AGLs should be 163m and 137m for Tower 2. 163m is a good height, it's the first building in the Wharf in the 160m-170m range. I hope the designs evolve though.

February 18th, 2010, 08:42 PM	#59
Team Brian GB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 161 Likes (Received): 0	Everytime I don't log on for a week or two something substantive comes along, I like this project immensely.