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***gothicform*** · February 25th, 2010, 03:43 AM

et voila -

Gherkin · February 25th, 2010, 04:30 AM

Very risky building perhaps the highest living wall in Europe (the world?) when London's first living wall died of natural causes (climate) so recently. Good luck!

I love the proportions of the tallest tower though - if only the architects of Churchill Place in the background had an eye for proportion...

Newcastle Guy · February 25th, 2010, 12:09 PM

I actually quite like them there

Octoman · February 25th, 2010, 12:15 PM

They look great to me. My only reservation is that the coloured balconies look like a bit of a throwback and might not age too well. But otherwise I I cant see that there is anything wrong with them. Its a good location to try out something a little different like this.

I'm not sure about these living walls either. There is one near the O2 Arena that was in a terrible state last time I saw it. And there is another building near Chancery Lane that has a living facade that is now about 60% dead grass and bald patches. They seem to be very hard to maintain.

wawd · February 25th, 2010, 05:00 PM

love the new renders James, thanks for posting. the tapering heights are just fantastic

tigerman · February 25th, 2010, 09:30 PM

These new renders looks quite good - the translucent cladding looks great even those coloured balconies (which I hated on the original render).

What I dont get though is why there seems to be absolutely no relationship between the 2 seperate structures.

shenqie · February 25th, 2010, 10:42 PM

I doub't a living wall like that will survive past its's first year - it's too exposed. The kind of plants that would survive well are the sort you find growing over old quarries, cliffs and hillsides - bracken, gorse, salt grass; they tend to go up in smoke every few years too !

What may work would be losts of deep and long semi screened balconies where the residents are covenanted to maintain whatever plants are used to fill them up.

shenqie · February 25th, 2010, 10:43 PM

"doub't" is a typo btw.

chilliz · February 25th, 2010, 10:46 PM

You can always edit you posts >.>

***gothicform*** · February 26th, 2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wawd

love the new renders James, thanks for posting. the tapering heights are just fantastic

thanks will. if anyone has any questions beyond the development schedule post them here and i'll see what i can find out

potto · February 26th, 2010, 03:14 PM

I dont understand the concern of the effort of 'green' walls to the point where they should no longer be attempted, sure sometimes they will need maintainence, they are gardens after all. Sometimes they will go through a brown patch when conditions are harsh but then we just nurish and replant as we have done for thousands of years. The vital point is we are creating potential space to harness biodiversity. Maybe we will see the rebirth of the gardener profession.

wawd · March 8th, 2010, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octoman

I'm not sure about these living walls either. There is one near the O2 Arena that was in a terrible state last time I saw it.

looking good again now:
image hosted on flickr

image hosted on flickr

Azzstar · March 8th, 2010, 11:16 PM

I have mixed opinions about this project, but I'd have a little more respect for this project, if they remove the awful colorful blocks that cling onto the building like spiders. The colour of the balconies just don't suit the area, just makes it look worse to be honest, just colour it a boring colour, like the colour of the cladding. It'll at least give a business feel to the area rather than look like a teletubbies skyscraper.

DarJoLe · March 8th, 2010, 11:44 PM

Nothing wrong with a bit of colour.

image hosted on flickr

ibiza · March 8th, 2010, 11:56 PM

indeed, my favorite sight on the DLR trip to Stratford

gazzab1990 · March 9th, 2010, 01:26 PM

Shame about the back though eh

I'm suprised nobody's pointed this out, but I don't think they're balconies. They look more like glass window boxes to me... at least on the upper part of the taller tower

skybaby · July 5th, 2010, 01:34 AM

This project has been referred to the Mayor of London who has concluded;
"Whilst the application is broadly acceptable in strategic planning terms. On balance, the application does not comply with the London Plan"
(More details at http://www.london.gov.uk/mayoral-pla...-march-2010#20)
Back to the drawing board?

Yorkshire Boy · July 5th, 2010, 01:38 AM

Thank god. I think if those monstrosities actually became real I think I'd have to eat my own head! ... or something!

london lad · July 5th, 2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkshire Boy

Thank god. I think if those monstrosities actually became real I think I'd have to eat my own head! ... or something!

You had best choose an accompanying sauce then as all the person above is referring to is a general mayoral planning report. They will always highlight were the application doesn't conform to the London plan, mostly minor issues that are sorted out by the time they go to planning committee.

potto · July 5th, 2010, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wawd

image hosted on flickr

Dont you just love design in this country

February 25th, 2010, 05:00 PM	#65
wawd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Greenwich Peninsula Posts: 1,477 Likes (Received): 0	love the new renders James, thanks for posting. the tapering heights are just fantastic __________________ wawd's flickr

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DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,662 Likes (Received): 393	Nothing wrong with a bit of colour. image hosted on flickr __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

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February 25th, 2010, 03:43 AM	#61
*gothicform* Bossman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: not london Posts: 29,147 Likes (Received): 481	et voila -

February 25th, 2010, 04:30 AM	#62
Gherkin actual gherkin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 13,713 Likes (Received): 147	Very risky building perhaps the highest living wall in Europe (the world?) when London's first living wall died of natural causes (climate) so recently. Good luck! I love the proportions of the tallest tower though - if only the architects of Churchill Place in the background had an eye for proportion...

February 25th, 2010, 12:09 PM	#63
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,955 Likes (Received): 18	I actually quite like them there

February 25th, 2010, 12:15 PM	#64
Octoman Boo! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 20,681 Likes (Received): 470	They look great to me. My only reservation is that the coloured balconies look like a bit of a throwback and might not age too well. But otherwise I I cant see that there is anything wrong with them. Its a good location to try out something a little different like this. I'm not sure about these living walls either. There is one near the O2 Arena that was in a terrible state last time I saw it. And there is another building near Chancery Lane that has a living facade that is now about 60% dead grass and bald patches. They seem to be very hard to maintain.

February 25th, 2010, 09:30 PM	#66
tigerman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,072 Likes (Received): 37	These new renders looks quite good - the translucent cladding looks great even those coloured balconies (which I hated on the original render). What I dont get though is why there seems to be absolutely no relationship between the 2 seperate structures.

February 25th, 2010, 10:42 PM	#67
shenqie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 103 Likes (Received): 0	I doub't a living wall like that will survive past its's first year - it's too exposed. The kind of plants that would survive well are the sort you find growing over old quarries, cliffs and hillsides - bracken, gorse, salt grass; they tend to go up in smoke every few years too ! What may work would be losts of deep and long semi screened balconies where the residents are covenanted to maintain whatever plants are used to fill them up.

February 25th, 2010, 10:43 PM	#68
shenqie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 103 Likes (Received): 0	"doub't" is a typo btw.

February 25th, 2010, 10:46 PM	#69
chilliz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Britain, unfortunately. Posts: 1,538 Likes (Received): 0	You can always edit you posts >.>

February 26th, 2010, 03:14 PM	#71
potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,495 Likes (Received): 249	I dont understand the concern of the effort of 'green' walls to the point where they should no longer be attempted, sure sometimes they will need maintainence, they are gardens after all. Sometimes they will go through a brown patch when conditions are harsh but then we just nurish and replant as we have done for thousands of years. The vital point is we are creating potential space to harness biodiversity. Maybe we will see the rebirth of the gardener profession.

March 8th, 2010, 11:16 PM	#73
Azzstar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 35 Likes (Received): 0	I have mixed opinions about this project, but I'd have a little more respect for this project, if they remove the awful colorful blocks that cling onto the building like spiders. The colour of the balconies just don't suit the area, just makes it look worse to be honest, just colour it a boring colour, like the colour of the cladding. It'll at least give a business feel to the area rather than look like a teletubbies skyscraper.

March 8th, 2010, 11:56 PM	#75
ibiza ....ENGAGE Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,116 Likes (Received): 0	indeed, my favorite sight on the DLR trip to Stratford

March 9th, 2010, 01:26 PM	#76
gazzab1990 SPAMMED Join Date: May 2007 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 2,224 Likes (Received): 2	Shame about the back though eh I'm suprised nobody's pointed this out, but I don't think they're balconies. They look more like glass window boxes to me... at least on the upper part of the taller tower

July 5th, 2010, 01:34 AM	#77
skybaby Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4 Likes (Received): 0	This project has been referred to the Mayor of London who has concluded; "Whilst the application is broadly acceptable in strategic planning terms. On balance, the application does not comply with the London Plan" (More details at http://www.london.gov.uk/mayoral-pla...-march-2010#20) Back to the drawing board?

July 5th, 2010, 01:38 AM	#78
Yorkshire Boy Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: L E E D S Posts: 2,283 Likes (Received): 55	Thank god. I think if those monstrosities actually became real I think I'd have to eat my own head! ... or something!