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Old November 14th, 2008, 07:16 AM   #201
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In this day and age, too cheap for some kind of emergency sidewalk? hmmm...
Do you really think that in a tunnel like that one you'll need any sidewalks?
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Old November 14th, 2008, 01:15 PM   #202
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Well in all new underground lines in the UK I believe they are needed for health and safety.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 08:10 PM   #203
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in a tunnel like that
...as opposed to --what?!-- some kind o' holy hole-riddled one? What is it about a bore that lends to qualifying itself enough for you, huh?

Me? I thought the new Europe was gelling so much as to be prescribing tangible emergency safety measures into the latest generation of infrastructure around the continent.

So, was it you who designed the tunnel yerself, coz my second look at its bend reveals the tracking to be additionally unworthy of canting?
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 01:37 AM   #204
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new Madrid metro expansion program 2007-11

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Does anyone have any current statistics and future plans handy?

I would be interested in seeing what we can expect from Madrid in the next few years.
here you can find the information incl maps now:

http://www.mintramadrid.es/pro0711.php
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 05:42 PM   #205
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What is the Madrid size in kilometers from end to end on east-west axis and noth -south axis?
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 07:53 PM   #206
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here you can find the information incl maps now:

http://www.mintramadrid.es/pro0711.php
The map there is too small!
Have anybody the larger one?

Btw. The two new lines... will they be more like cercanias? It looks like that, coz they run paralel to the regular rail tracks.
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Old February 4th, 2009, 10:35 AM   #207
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The map there is too small!
Have anybody the larger one?

Btw. The two new lines... will they be more like cercanias? It looks like that, coz they run paralel to the regular rail tracks.
yes and no.. they are planned as Metro-train through serfice, but open is the question of running on the presend 2 diffrend gauge system...

be happy, that the new program is now in the web - a year about after aproval
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Old February 7th, 2009, 05:40 AM   #208
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I think Madrid has a big enough subway system. Let the city grow before adding more.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 08:56 AM   #209
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You can never have too much metro

I'm sure Madrid is smart enough to know if a line isn't needed. If a new metro line makes good business sense, then go for it.
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Old February 10th, 2009, 04:25 AM   #210
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You can never have too much metro

I'm sure Madrid is smart enough to know if a line isn't needed. If a new metro line makes good business sense, then go for it.
That is true. It's just that Madrid has such a massive metro system that it seems like all corners of the city are covered.

Hats off to Madrid for building such a kickass public transit system.
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Old February 10th, 2009, 08:08 PM   #211
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The map there is too small!
Have anybody the larger one?
Here you have. The current Metro and the expansion until 2011 in dotted lines. Not a large investment compared to the previous one.

After 2011, the creation of a second ring line through L11 and the expansion of L8 down South are the main projects.

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Old February 13th, 2009, 07:09 AM   #212
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Old February 13th, 2009, 10:45 PM   #213
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Here you have. The current Metro and the expansion until 2011 in dotted lines. Not a large investment compared to the previous one.

After 2011, the creation of a second ring line through L11 and the expansion of L8 down South are the main projects.
hallo - the map is not correct. I have the description of all single projects. ML 4 in the west will have no connection with ML 2!
missed are teh 2 new Metro-tren line connections Moncloa > west and East of Barajas airport in Torrejon de Ardoz.
and not shown in the program, but in preparation as I saw during my visit last May is a new station on line 9 between Puerta de Arganda and Rivas to serve new developments under preparation there.
do you have a map with the next provisions? line 11 I have but others?
I strongly believe in a tangential in the west from line 7 to south over line 9 , 1 and more south > Merdaco because there is much new developmet.
not sure if metro or ML
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Old February 14th, 2009, 06:18 AM   #214
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The Madrid Metro took its experience to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

The Stations are very much alike the ones in Madrid.
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Old February 14th, 2009, 04:18 PM   #215
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hallo - the map is not correct. I have the description of all single projects. ML 4 in the west will have no connection with ML 2!
I am afraid ML4 will never be built, since neighbours didn't like the idea.

Expansion of L3 until El Casar isn't sure either (at least in the next years), since there are problems between Madrid and Getafe City Council.

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and not shown in the program, but in preparation as I saw during my visit last May is a new station on line 9 between Puerta de Arganda and Rivas to serve new developments under preparation there.
It is called Los Berrocales, but I have no idea when they are going to open the station, since nowadays it's in the middle of the countryside. Last news I read said it would take more than 8 years until the first neighbours arrived.

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do you have a map with the next provisions? line 11 I have but others?
I strongly believe in a tangential in the west from line 7 to south over line 9 , 1 and more south > Merdaco because there is much new developmet.
not sure if metro or ML
Just freak fantasies, but nothing official.

I am pretty sure that L8 has to go South to Atocha (main train station) and Mendez Alvaro (main bus station), since it looks very efficient to have them connected directly with the airport and nowadays they are not well served by Metro. Then this line might go S or SE to cover the new developments.

This area (S and SE) is where most of new developments are located so we will see new lines for sure there, but it is too early to say how.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 07:11 AM   #216
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...as opposed to --what?!-- some kind o' holy hole-riddled one? What is it about a bore that lends to qualifying itself enough for you, huh?

Me? I thought the new Europe was gelling so much as to be prescribing tangible emergency safety measures into the latest generation of infrastructure around the continent.

So, was it you who designed the tunnel yerself, coz my second look at its bend reveals the tracking to be additionally unworthy of canting?
Don't you need a 3rd rail system before you start to feel unsafe when traveling on a railway tunnel ???

And what about trap prevention measures on Madrid Metro ??? theres a huge gap under the platforms and the rails themselves are elevated from the floor more than 30cm.
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Old March 10th, 2009, 01:35 AM   #217
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Any pics of trams (inside and outside) and plans about extend the network of Metro Ligero?
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Old March 16th, 2009, 11:25 PM   #218
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Old June 13th, 2009, 10:10 AM   #219
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Six of those trams, the Alstom Citadis trams, that were built for Madrid have been sold to South Australia for use on the Glenelg line in Adelaide. The line is about 12km long, running mostly on its own reserve and through congested streets at either end. The trams were sought as the extension of the line though the CBD caused a much higher than expected increase in patronage. It currently runs 11 Bombardier Flexity trams.



Apparently 22 were constructed that are now no longer requirement. That leaves me with two questions:
- Why are they no longer required? Was the Madrid project scaled back?
- What are they like, especially when with crush loads?

It's hoped they'll cure the line's congestion:
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Old June 28th, 2009, 08:32 PM   #220
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MADRID: new suburban station in Sol, the bigest cavern in the World!

Today, the 28th of June, Madrid has a new and important suburban station, just in the center of the city, connecting the Metro station "Sol" (L1, L2 and L3) with the new "Cercanías" station (lines C-3 and C-4 of the suburban trains network).

Platforms are 207 metres long, 6 floors under the surface, and 7.600 squared metres of new halls and corridors.

Sol metro station will have new works to connect line 1 and line 3 with an open hall (instead of the current corridors), and Sol Cercanías station will connect in a few years with “Gran Via” metro station (L1 and L5), along a new corridor and hall in that station.

With this new infraestructure, people has access to the suburban trains network from the city center, visitors will be able to go to the tourist village “Aranjuez” from Sol station in the same suburban train. Or in 2010, suburban trains will arrive to the Airport Terminal 4, spending only 20 minutes to Sol.

70.000 persons will use this suburban station daily.


Madrid figures:

Metro: 283km. 281 stations. 13 lines.
Under construction: 13km (2011)

Suburban trains: 363km. 8 lines.
Under construction: 24km. (2010-2011). Project 2015: 126,6km (approved).




CERCANIAS MAP (suburban trains):
Posted in skyscrapercity by "Tram_Space".




MAP OF "ASOCIACIÓN DE AMIGOS DEL METRO DE MADRID ANDEN1",

This pic shows the center of Madrid and the connection between Metro and Cercanias:
(thanks to Jose Juan Navalón, memeber of Anden1 and professional designer)







Old Station:




Current station:






Works in the cavern:




Old Puerta del Sol:



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NEW ENTRANCE:




















NEW STATION:










































METRO HALL:

















Group of members of "ASOCIACIÓN DE AMIGOS DEL METRO DE MADRID, ANDEN1". We are a group of metrofans of Madrid that visit the new transport infraestructures in the openings, knowing the new details, enjoing the new stations with our cameras...


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